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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23427143 - 07/09/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

why are the billions of people who can only afford to eat rice as their staple not diabetic? 

how is this dude who literally poors sugar into his banana smoothies and drinks 800 calories of pure sugar water for breakfast not diabetic?



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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23427168 - 07/09/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No dude, I eat shit loads of dietary fat and it increased my insulin sensitivity over time.

And don't worry, that dude could easily start noticing some diabetic symptoms if he keeps it up. Nobody ever said you instantly become diabetic when you eat a lot of sugar. You should see how many diabetics improve their health by avoiding sugar. Type 2 diabetes is a result of insulin resistance, nobody who eats a Keto diet becomes diabetic.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23427188 - 07/09/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have heard they do have a higher incidence of diabetes in Asia. Rice is a real food though.
That's dirrian rider, he looks as unhealthy as he probably is. He gives insane diet advice and has become shamed in the vegan community. He also has krone's disease, which high carb  hogh caloriediets are beneficial toward, because you don't absorb things right

There is something wrong g with the dichatomy. I see keto people who are ripped, and vegans and high carbers who look from decent to malnourished, but not as oftain overweight long term.

I don't believe in the nonsense that animal products are inheritly unhealthy. If they were so terrible, we would have just eaten plants, instead of going after animals. If there was no nutrician, or less then in plants, it would be a stupid massive waste.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23427204 - 07/09/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Vegan's might be right when they say humans weren't originally meant to eat animals. I mean the only predatory advantage we have is intelligence, but then you see chimps making skewers to kill animals in trees or hippos eating each other then it starts to seem like you really don't need to have claws and carnivorous teeth to eat animals. I think vegans just aren't as overweight in general because the food they eat is more filling with less calories. Whatever the case it has anything to do with "meat makes you fat."

But yeah Durian riders a fool, you have to be a fool to be dating someone like Freelee the Banana Nazi


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Eminence]
    #23427218 - 07/09/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Vegans are a small group, and being conscious ethically may translate into better eating choices. Many Americans don't eat enough veggies anyway.


I don't think he is beyond redemption. YouTube is a great opportunity to make yourself look stupid.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23427233 - 07/09/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I only watched the first video. The way he films is uncomfortable to watch

The challenge was to eat healthy for a week for $21. You telling me that failed after the first day? :rofl:

How much did he spend in the end?


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: DustBunny]
    #23428493 - 07/10/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eating healthy food that tastes good is more of a challenge when you are on a budget with a limited amount of time to prepare your food.  Leaner beef, decent fish, USDA prime meats, lamb chops, duck, or really nice produce is all pretty expensive.




Not necessarily, depending on where you live. For the most part catfish is the only consistent cheap fish where I'm at, but I can get 85/15 ground beef for $4.50/lb at my Farmer's Market. Duck when in season. Produce most of all, whether from co-ops, farmer's markets, or produce stands. Of course being in the midwest helps, but in the Southwest the cheapest and best were still from farmer's markets and co-ops.

Pork is healthier than beef and chicken, and pork chops are cheap. Crock-pots help a ton, and will make worse cuts like roasts (shoulder, butt) and cube steak/stew meat awesome. That they (with a timer) can mean dinner is ready when you get home from work is nice too.



Crock pots certainly can make a shitty cut of meat taste delicious.  They are a really good idea for people on a budget that cook multiple meals at once without a lot of time to prepare food.  I try not to eat much meat besides chicken breast because it is extremely lean.  I would eat more fish but it's too expensive unless you aren't picky about it.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23428793 - 07/10/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This may very well be my favorite post in the whole Shroomery.
Healthy is so easy, not to mention practical.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #23429349 - 07/10/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you're trying to eat healthy, pork has significantly more nutrients than chicken with only slightly more calories. Loin chops in particular are just about as lean (+still more nutritious), and they are cheap.

I use my crock-pot for cooking individual* meals, it just depends on the size of whatever I'm putting in it. Even using it for only one* meal, I have a ton of recipes that take almost no time to prep. Just through in the meat, spices/etc., and set the timer to  turn on whenever I need it to.


*I usually eat what I made for dinner twice in a night.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23429361 - 07/10/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
why are the billions of people who can only afford to eat rice as their staple not diabetic? 

how is this dude who literally poors sugar into his banana smoothies and drinks 800 calories of pure sugar water for breakfast not diabetic?





I don't know what this post is in response to, as I haven't read the previous page, but for what it's worth:

Diabetes has many genetic factors, and isn't something that happens instantly. That guy who scoops sugar into his smoothie is still getting less sugar than someone who downs 5 cans of soda a day, and whom also has no signs of diabetes. Fiber intake also reduces your insulin levels, and breaks foods down over time rather than all at once.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: DustBunny]
    #23429373 - 07/10/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Eating healthy is still more expensive though

If you compare within similar food groups the "purest" or healthy variant is more expensive 99% of the time

€ wonderbread < € Wholegrain
€Chicken cuts < € Nugget type things
€ Burgers < € Real beef burgers
€ Sausage < € Steak
€ Flavored Icecream < € Real fruit Sorbet

And so on

Comparing Mcdonalds with home-cooked stuff is not a fair comparison imo


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23429393 - 07/10/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

eating healthy food isn't more expensive but it requires a hell of a lot of discipline when you have stockpiles of fruits and vegetables on deck as opposed to going out to eat or buying something like processed can food.  when i stockpile fruits and vegetables and healthy food i find that my portions increase and my meal times begin to vary considerably.  maybe 5 or 6 meals a day.  i really do think for most people it ends up balancing out


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: daz01]
    #23432416 - 07/11/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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They are all lazy and make excuses. Simple.

I just spent 150GBP on kilograms of nuts (1kg almonds + brazil + cashew), seeds (1kg flaxseed, hemp, sesame, sunflower, pumpkin), legumes and grains on a bulk store. More you buy, cheaper it is. That shit will last me for months.
Fresh fruit is the most expensive here. 2 bucks for a small packet of blueberries, strawberries or cherries. A packet sometimes won't last me a day.




Yeah, fresh fruits and nuts are the most expensive thing to buy. I often won't buy nuts and will buy raw, unsalted pumpkin seeds since pumpkin seeds are a lot cheaper, at $2.99 a bag as opposed to $8.99 for walnuts.

Blueberries are super expensive on the east coast, $3.99 for a tiny packet of blueberries. Too expensive. In California I could have gotten 3 packs of blueberries at the farmer's market for $1


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23432418 - 07/11/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think the dollar menu is the cheapest most economical way to eat hands down, no way to disprove it imo.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23432432 - 07/11/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eating healthy is still more expensive though

If you compare within similar food groups the "purest" or healthy variant is more expensive 99% of the time

€ wonderbread < € Wholegrain
€Chicken cuts < € Nugget type things
€ Burgers < € Real beef burgers
€ Sausage < € Steak
€ Flavored Icecream < € Real fruit Sorbet

And so on

Comparing Mcdonalds with home-cooked stuff is not a fair comparison imo




No way, chicken thighs can be bought at 99 cents per lb. Pre-made frozen nuggets are like $15 for 2-3lbs, that's almost 7-8x markup!

You're right about the bread and ice cream though. Personally, I hate bread sold in American supermarkets, it tastes like paper to me. I usually eat whole-wheat pasta, quinoa, rice, barley, or corn tortillas for my carbs instead. I don't do bread unless it's really good bread from Whole Foods or the Japanese market or something.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: goop]
    #23432438 - 07/11/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the dollar menu is the cheapest most economical way to eat hands down, no way to disprove it imo.




It certainly is the cheapest, but it's also the least nutritious way to eat. Just empty carbs and fats--anybody else ever notice when they eat off the dollar menu they're hungry again in 1-2 hours?


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23432455 - 07/11/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23432463 - 07/11/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd guess the cheapest way to get good fruit for you up there is from a co-op. Fruit is of course cheapest in areas where grown, and co-ops can get really close to those prices all the way across the country. I just bought 10lb of excellent peaches for $11, 25lb boxes were $23. They don't get much cheaper than this as I'm minutes away from their origin, but co-ops can get close to it.


I only buy whole chickens when I do (buy chicken).


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: DustBunny]
    #23432892 - 07/11/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think you are missing the time component. Most poor people are working so many hours and doing other things when they aren't working that there just isn't enough time for cooking.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: bendychicken]
    #23432927 - 07/11/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I work a lot. Many meals take <15min to prep, especially with crock-pots. It's almost always more an issue of motivation or laziness than not having enough time. A lot of the time it's a matter of gathering all ingredients and putting them in the crock-pot. <5 minute prep-time.


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