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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23425551 - 07/09/16 03:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eating healthy isnt about money, its about time, effort and taste.

Some people love nasty convenience foods. But youre right, healthy food can be cheaper than TV dinners, BUT its a lot more work to cook it.

Fat people are typically lazy and dont  like cooking and cleaning every meal.




That's true, but considering there are plenty of meals that take 20 minutes to cook or less, I feel like this is another excuse. Most of my meals take less than 30 minutes to make.

Or you can simply season a chicken thigh or whole fish, and throw it in the oven with some potatoes, asparagus, and strawberries, and call it a meal. 45 minutes later, you've done nothing and your food is ready for you. That's also a $2 meal right there as well.

Put a tinfoil wrap down on the baking tray so you don't have much to clean up after except your plate and utensils.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23425557 - 07/09/16 03:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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vegans have significantly less arterial plaque than meat eaters and humans get atherosclerosis when we eat animal products. 

longest living cultures in the world consume very little meat




This is true, not very many vegans suffer from obesity or heart disease for a reason. Meat and animal fat thicken your blood, which causes the clogged arteries.

But it's also why animal products are so essential when you're living in freezing cold climates, cause thicker blood is what helps keep you warmer. Those sherpas on mt. Everest basically drink a butter and milk tea to stay warm. And in the coldest parts of Russia people eat spoonfuls of butter cause they say it's what helps keep you the warmest during winter.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425562 - 07/09/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also, its instant gratification.

Go eat out, bam, food ready to eat. No waiting, no cooking, instant food. Fast food. Same with microwaved food.

Thats the mentality of it all, how can i eat the fastest with little to no effort at all? Fast food or microwaved dinners.

if i was a richie rich, i would have a full time cook and get fucking HUGE from it.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: DustBunny]
    #23425566 - 07/09/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Pork is healthier than beef and chicken, and pork chops are cheap. Crock-pots help a ton, and will make worse cuts like roasts (shoulder, butt) and cube steak/stew meat awesome. That they (with a timer) can mean dinner is ready when you get home from work is nice too.




Pork shoulder/butt is one of the most prized cuts of pork imo. Sooo succulent and fatty. Its served in a lot of Latin cuisines especially around Christmas time, and is best marinated and slow roasted. If you can get a nice sear on it with a fire grill for the final touch, you'll be in heaven.

My favorite restaurant in Philly serves pork shoulder roasted over a wood fire flame, it's the best thing on their menu. I think the butt rivals the belly as the best cut of meat on pork.

I will sometimes find a 10lb pork shoulder for 99 cents per lb when on sale. I buy it and make my own spicy soy BBQ marinade and slow cook it in the oven and broil it. So much of a better deal than paying the $30 it costs to eat the small portion of pork butt at the restaurant.

(And for people who are confused, pork shoulder and butt are the same thing. They are both the butt of pork, I have no idea why they call it pork shoulder to be honest)


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23425569 - 07/09/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, its instant gratification.

Go eat out, bam, food ready to eat. No waiting, no cooking, instant food. Fast food. Same with microwaved food.

Thats the mentality of it all, how can i eat the fastest with little to no effort at all? Fast food or microwaved dinners.

if i was a richie rich, i would have a full time cook and get fucking HUGE from it.




I can see that. I think in the future though once smart technology becomes cheap to use in the kitchen, people will start prepping meals the night before, and have it cooked via smartphone on their way home from work.

Kind of like Mellow, the smart sous-vide. If this weren't so damn expensive, I'd love to get it. But for now slow cookers and crock pots will have to be good enough: https://www.cookmellow.com/


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: koods]
    #23425574 - 07/09/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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OP, it's easy to say that it's cheaper to cook for yourself when you live somewhere that has grocery stores. Many poor communities don't.




Unless you live in a food desert where the only food available in a 20 mile radius is 7-11, it's not really an excuse. Almost all grocery stores now have delivery service, with free delivery on orders over $50.

Hell, when I was living in the "ghetto," the local Mexican supermarket would even cater to people without cars, by dropping you off at your house with your groceries if you spent more than $40. This was a free service too, no extra charge.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425591 - 07/09/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I really don't think that it's even about lack of ability or not wanting to cook either. Ever notice poor people always know how to cook unhealthy meals? Somehow they always know how to whip up some bomb mac n cheese, fried chicken, grits, waffles, and things of that nature.

Really, I think it's more about the fact that they simply don't like healthy food, and don't want to eat it or cook it.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23425670 - 07/09/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's pretty ridiculous that you keep stereotyping 'poor people' like that. It makes you seem pretty ignorant and self righteous to be making a thread to basify a whole class of people like that. "I have money and I eat like this, people who don't have lots of money and don't eat like this are pieces of shit." You could have made a thread about how cheap it is to eat healthy, but no you chose to put poor people on blast. Why? It seems pretty lame of you. Do you think all poor people eat like shit? Are you really that naive to think that people with money aren't unhealthy? I'd hope not because that would be retarded. People's interests vary. Try giving less of a shit what other people do.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23425684 - 07/09/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you're ignorant you're probz more likely to be poor


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23425688 - 07/09/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's pretty ridiculous that you keep stereotyping 'poor people' like that. It makes you seem pretty ignorant and self righteous to be making a thread to basify a whole class of people like that. "I have money and I eat like this, people who don't have lots of money and don't eat like this are pieces of shit." You could have made a thread about how cheap it is to eat healthy, but no you chose to put poor people on blast. Why? It seems pretty lame of you. Do you think all poor people eat like shit? Are you really that naive to think that people with money aren't unhealthy? I'd hope not because that would be retarded. People's interests vary. Try giving less of a shit what other people do.




Because this thread is specifically about poor people who claim eating healthy is too expensive, that's why. This thread does not apply to poor people who eat healthy.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425702 - 07/09/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some poor people eat fast food because they gotta work 12+ hours a day working 2 jobs to support their families its faster and more convenient to by a quick fast food meal then go to the grocery store bring it home cook it up serve it and clean up.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425808 - 07/09/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Check out his list

12 eggs 960kcal
2kg cabbage 440 kcal
bunch of onions 100kcal
piece of ginger 55kcal
2 peaches 80kcal
6 bananas 900kcal
500 gram chicken 1100 kcal
couple jalepenos 40 kcal
2 lemons 35 kcal

thats 3700 kcal for the entire week. An adult male needs about 2500 kcal a day so thats 17500 for the whole week.

17500 - 3700 = 13800/7=1971 kcal per day worth of rice, peas and tortilla pancakes.

Lets say you stick to cooked rice for a day, thats almost two kgs of rice you would have to eat. Chickpeas a little over a kilo. Or mix it up with some tortillas and you'd still need to eat a half a kg of each as well

Healthy or not (I dont think it is), fuck that




Your missing a fuck ton of ingredients, he also used chicken thighs and beans and rice and tortillas, and made black bean burgers in one of his recipes.

When I was in sober living we got a budget of $50 per week to spend on food, I still managed to buy non necessities like cigarettes and ice cream and had enough food to make chili and whole wheat pasta and grilled fish tacos and salads for the week.




Yes chicken like I posted. Did I not mention rice and tortillas? Okay so I did not mention the black beans and the vinegar. Still a crappy diet


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: koods]
    #23425826 - 07/09/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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OP, it's easy to say that it's cheaper to cook for yourself when you live somewhere that has grocery stores. Many poor communities don't.




About those communities.

Do they really exist?
How the hell does that happen?


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Plain]
    #23425840 - 07/09/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some poor people eat fast food because they gotta work 12+ hours a day working 2 jobs to support their families its faster and more convenient to by a quick fast food meal then go to the grocery store bring it home cook it up serve it and clean up.



hell even 3 jobs or more :sadyes:

thread is classist

Time is money essentially


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425926 - 07/09/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I really don't think that it's even about lack of ability or not wanting to cook either. Ever notice poor people always know how to cook unhealthy meals? Somehow they always know how to whip up some bomb mac n cheese, fried chicken, grits, waffles, and things of that nature.

Really, I think it's more about the fact that they simply don't like healthy food, and don't want to eat it or cook it.





I've heard plenty of middle class people say they can't afford to eat healthy. When do Americans not steal any excuse they possibly can because at one time or another it has appropriately applied to someone else?


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23426610 - 07/09/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Tripsurfer said:
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Crystal G said:
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Tripsurfer said:
Check out his list

12 eggs 960kcal
2kg cabbage 440 kcal
bunch of onions 100kcal
piece of ginger 55kcal
2 peaches 80kcal
6 bananas 900kcal
500 gram chicken 1100 kcal
couple jalepenos 40 kcal
2 lemons 35 kcal

thats 3700 kcal for the entire week. An adult male needs about 2500 kcal a day so thats 17500 for the whole week.

17500 - 3700 = 13800/7=1971 kcal per day worth of rice, peas and tortilla pancakes.

Lets say you stick to cooked rice for a day, thats almost two kgs of rice you would have to eat. Chickpeas a little over a kilo. Or mix it up with some tortillas and you'd still need to eat a half a kg of each as well

Healthy or not (I dont think it is), fuck that




Your missing a fuck ton of ingredients, he also used chicken thighs and beans and rice and tortillas, and made black bean burgers in one of his recipes.

When I was in sober living we got a budget of $50 per week to spend on food, I still managed to buy non necessities like cigarettes and ice cream and had enough food to make chili and whole wheat pasta and grilled fish tacos and salads for the week.




Yes chicken like I posted. Did I not mention rice and tortillas? Okay so I did not mention the black beans and the vinegar. Still a crappy diet




Did you even see the size of the omelet and other portions he ate? They were huge!

You probably only saw video 1 which explains why your calorie list is lacking. On day 2 and 3 he does more shopping, and day 3 is when he makes banana and chickpea pancakes for breakfasy2 black bean burgers and French fries for himself. Thats plenty for a grown adult to eat in a meal.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #23427013 - 07/09/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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high carb foods aren't bad, they are what allowed are ancestors to survive and thrive more then half the world lives on less than 2 dollars a day, yet many have fairly long life expectancies

carbs get their bad rap from being associated and paired with heavy fattening animal fats.  fries are drenched in oil, you never see a a baked potato served with out a gaping dollop of butter and sour cream. pizza is topped with heaps of cheese and sodium in the dough, white rice is almost always paired with some greasy ass dense animal product.



No, that is not why. I insuline resistance is why carbs are looked upon with suspicion, and some people can be damaged badly with just small amounts. The average diet, PR what people think is healthy, would and did help kill my dad. People have no concept of sugar. It also can effect your gut bacteria. Foods with carbs, as opposed to fake foods like breads, pasta, and cerial, are different though, and don't seem to be bad.

Cerial should defenately be considered child abuse. Diabetes runs in my family, and we always had ceria and pasta, because it tasted good. I got huge and sick. People go third whole lives thinking bread is a staple

Unprocessed animal products are not unhealthy. The vegetable oils are the bad ones, because of their high omwga Sox content. Besides a few exceptions, most vegetable oils are industrial age products, and before the 70's, when every bad desicion seems to have ever been made, we moved away from butter, palm oil, and coconut oil, which are not omega 6's


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23427106 - 07/09/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

what was your fat intake like though?

too much dietary fat can cause insulin resistance



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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #23427117 - 07/09/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You linked to a retard. It has been proven that sugar causes the resistance. That is why chugging oil on a keto diet is effective, consistently. That vegan doctor is wrong, as are all the plant based doctors. They run temporary treatment centers


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23427133 - 07/09/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They are all lazy and make excuses. Simple.

I just spent 150GBP on kilograms of nuts (1kg almonds + brazil + cashew), seeds (1kg flaxseed, hemp, sesame, sunflower, pumpkin), legumes and grains on a bulk store. More you buy, cheaper it is. That shit will last me for months.
Fresh fruit is the most expensive here. 2 bucks for a small packet of blueberries, strawberries or cherries. A packet sometimes won't last me a day.

Since I quit opiates, eating healthily is now a massive part of my life. I enjoy chopping up vegetables and making a stir-fry. I enjoy grinding up my seeds + nuts, mixing it with greek yogurt with honey + coconut on top.......SOOOOOOOOOO gooood. That quick snack is a nutritional powerhouse AND tasty.


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