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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23424055 - 07/08/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The problem is most people can't cook worth a shit.  I'm amazed half the time I go over friends houses and ask where their herbs and spices are.  If all you have is salt, oregano, pepper, and mrs. dash chances are your cooking ability is garbage.  Spices aren't always easy to figure out how to use, and while it does take practice as long as you follow recipes at first it will come.  I don't understand how some people never learn how to prepare food considering how much of their day they spend consuming it.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: fapjack]
    #23424076 - 07/08/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not the type of guy who would deliberately try to eat for 3$ a day, but right now my diner is a 79 cents can of bean and I couldn't be happier. My brreakfast was roughly 60 cents worth of eggs and my lunch was 2 chicken legs. No I didn't have veggies today cause I just didn't feel like eating verggies, but I'm sure I could easy have throwed in a head of brocolli i the mix and be close to that 3$ mark


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #23424083 - 07/08/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's not hard to learn how to cook. I didn't learn until I was 25; till then, I was always making ramen or heating canned soup or microwaving chicken tenders or something. Had to learn what flambe and Sautee and all those terms meant, and what the difference between a pan and a pot were.

To this day I don't use exact measurements I simply do everything to taste. Seems to work out just fine for me, and now I consider myself somewhat of a gourmet cook.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: fapjack]
    #23424148 - 07/08/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Check out his list

12 eggs 960kcal
2kg cabbage 440 kcal
bunch of onions 100kcal
piece of ginger 55kcal
2 peaches 80kcal
6 bananas 900kcal
500 gram chicken 1100 kcal
couple jalepenos 40 kcal
2 lemons 35 kcal

thats 3700 kcal for the entire week. An adult male needs about 2500 kcal a day so thats 17500 for the whole week.

17500 - 3700 = 13800/7=1971 kcal per day worth of rice, peas and tortilla pancakes.

Lets say you stick to cooked rice for a day, thats almost two kgs of rice you would have to eat. Chickpeas a little over a kilo. Or mix it up with some tortillas and you'd still need to eat a half a kg of each as well

Healthy or not (I dont think it is), fuck that


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23424170 - 07/08/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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what people consider healthy is subjective

some people think eating a steak is a health food and white rice is the devil




It isn't subjective. Someone who thinks this way hasn't read enough or watched enough on what makes sugar bad.
I'm not convinced high carb foods are really unhealthy though

Most people are just lazy and junk food is delicious. It's made to be delicious.
Also, most people don't know 'what' is healthy, because we are raises on food that isn't food, at leat where I live.

Children have no conception of the future, try the garbage, won't eat real food, and their stupid parents who think what you eat is trivial and being fat just happens allow their children to poison themselves.
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Check out his list

12 eggs 960kcal
2kg cabbage 440 kcal
bunch of onions 100kcal
piece of ginger 55kcal
2 peaches 80kcal
6 bananas 900kcal
500 gram chicken 1100 kcal
couple jalepenos 40 kcal
2 lemons 35 kcal

thats 3700 kcal for the entire week. An adult male needs about 2500 kcal a day so thats 17500 for the whole week.

17500 - 3700 = 13800/7=1971 kcal per day worth of rice, peas and tortilla pancakes.

Lets say you stick to cooked rice for a day, thats almost two kgs of rice you would have to eat. Chickpeas a little over a kilo. Or mix it up with some tortillas and you'd still need to eat a half a kg of each as well

Healthy or not (I dont think it is), fuck that



I don't see how this is bad. The bread product maybe, but otherwise it sounds nice.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23424324 - 07/08/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Tripsurfer said:
Check out his list

12 eggs 960kcal
2kg cabbage 440 kcal
bunch of onions 100kcal
piece of ginger 55kcal
2 peaches 80kcal
6 bananas 900kcal
500 gram chicken 1100 kcal
couple jalepenos 40 kcal
2 lemons 35 kcal

thats 3700 kcal for the entire week. An adult male needs about 2500 kcal a day so thats 17500 for the whole week.

17500 - 3700 = 13800/7=1971 kcal per day worth of rice, peas and tortilla pancakes.

Lets say you stick to cooked rice for a day, thats almost two kgs of rice you would have to eat. Chickpeas a little over a kilo. Or mix it up with some tortillas and you'd still need to eat a half a kg of each as well

Healthy or not (I dont think it is), fuck that




Your missing a fuck ton of ingredients, he also used chicken thighs and beans and rice and tortillas, and made black bean burgers in one of his recipes.

When I was in sober living we got a budget of $50 per week to spend on food, I still managed to buy non necessities like cigarettes and ice cream and had enough food to make chili and whole wheat pasta and grilled fish tacos and salads for the week.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23424558 - 07/08/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

high carb foods aren't bad, they are what allowed are ancestors to survive and thrive more then half the world lives on less than 2 dollars a day, yet many have fairly long life expectancies

carbs get their bad rap from being associated and paired with heavy fattening animal fats.  fries are drenched in oil, you never see a a baked potato served with out a gaping dollop of butter and sour cream. pizza is topped with heaps of cheese and sodium in the dough, white rice is almost always paired with some greasy ass dense animal product.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23424652 - 07/08/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The China study didn't include any other factors though as far as I remember. That doesn't explain how some of the healthiest communities do include meat in their diet. I'm healthier than my super vegan freak friend and I'm damn near a carnivore. Carbs cause inflammation, that's what is responsible for unhealthy arteries; it's also what causes obesity because carbs spike your insulin way more than any animal products will. People didn't start getting so fat and unhealthy until mass grain and sugar farming became a thing and people thought they needed to stop eating fat. Cancers also feed on glucose, and ketones are better for your mental function than glucose is too. AND carbs also fuck up your teeth, this is why cavemen's skulls always had healthy lookin teeth without any known oral hygiene, bacteria wasn't feeding on carbs and makin destructive acid byproducts, and grains contain phytic acids which inhibit vitamin absorption. Don't turn this into a vegan debate thread please lol


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23424773 - 07/08/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The shroom farmers here should already have a giant bag of millet. That's some healthy stuff. Go to the store and buy huge bag bird seed. You could live off that healthy shit for pennies a day.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Love_spirit] * 1
    #23424795 - 07/08/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

OP, it's easy to say that it's cheaper to cook for yourself when you live somewhere that has grocery stores. Many poor communities don't.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: fapjack]
    #23424810 - 07/08/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eating healthy food that tastes good is more of a challenge when you are on a budget with a limited amount of time to prepare your food.  Leaner beef, decent fish, USDA prime meats, lamb chops, duck, or really nice produce is all pretty expensive.




Not necessarily, depending on where you live. For the most part catfish is the only consistent cheap fish where I'm at, but I can get 85/15 ground beef for $4.50/lb at my Farmer's Market. Duck when in season. Produce most of all, whether from co-ops, farmer's markets, or produce stands. Of course being in the midwest helps, but in the Southwest the cheapest and best were still from farmer's markets and co-ops.

Pork is healthier than beef and chicken, and pork chops are cheap. Crock-pots help a ton, and will make worse cuts like roasts (shoulder, butt) and cube steak/stew meat awesome. That they (with a timer) can mean dinner is ready when you get home from work is nice too.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: DustBunny]
    #23424825 - 07/08/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

DB, knowin you I know you got some tasty recipes to post


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Eminence]
    #23424967 - 07/08/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:tongue2: I like to think I'm excellent at eating well cheaply, and coming up with something given few ingredients. Tonight wasn't anything exciting, but I love meals like it. Grilled loin pork chops at $2.00/lb, and (grilled) a banana pepper and some grape tomatoes I picked yesterday; a maybe 3oz sweet onion at $1.10(?)/lb; and a ~4oz portobello cap at $4.50/lb; with a little olive oil, balsamic vinegar, and sea salt. The porto was the most expensive part. Great and huge meal for about $3.50 (I ate both chops at just over a pound).


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23424983 - 07/08/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Rich people make all kinds of shitty excuses for their excesses.  For example, in the Gym this morning, their were two rich fuckers, arrogantly talking about a guy who comes in every morning with a cart, and showers.  he is homeless.  they were saying shit like 'he's like a bad disease you can't get rid of'

I felt like telling them he doesn't have a silver spoon shoved up his ass like you two fucking turds, and maybe he has been through some shit so lay off.  I get tired of this shit, California is the worst example of the Rich Liberal NIMBY mindset. 

Fuck so people are poor, let them eat what they fucking want.  hell when I was poor i went days on end without eating.  So shut the fuck up.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23425047 - 07/08/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice :drooling: Makes me wanna pick up some portobellos tomorrow to make some stuffed mushrooms with my steak. Soo much steak this week :yesnod:


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Eminence]
    #23425076 - 07/08/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The China study didn't include any other factors though as far as I remember. That doesn't explain how some of the healthiest communities do include meat in their diet. I'm healthier than my super vegan freak friend and I'm damn near a carnivore. Carbs cause inflammation, that's what is responsible for unhealthy arteries; it's also what causes obesity because carbs spike your insulin way more than any animal products will. People didn't start getting so fat and unhealthy until mass grain and sugar farming became a thing and people thought they needed to stop eating fat. Cancers also feed on glucose, and ketones are better for your mental function than glucose is too. AND carbs also fuck up your teeth, this is why cavemen's skulls always had healthy lookin teeth without any known oral hygiene, bacteria wasn't feeding on carbs and makin destructive acid byproducts, and grains contain phytic acids which inhibit vitamin absorption. Don't turn this into a vegan debate thread please lol




i dont care about your anectdotal evidence about you being healthier than your friend. 

carbs spike your insulin more initially
animal products keep your insulin levels higher longer
its why bodybuilders inject insulin

source needed about carbs causing inflammation, makes no sense, most plant foods besides nuts  have a good amount of carbs
heavy fat and animal products cause inflammation from what i have read

every cell in the body is fueled by glucose

keep fueling your brain in a state of ketosis lol

you make a lot of bold claims with no real sources, and then say you dont want to debate. 

vegans have significantly less arterial plaque than meat eaters and humans get atherosclerosis when we eat animal products. 

longest living cultures in the world consume very little meat


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23425084 - 07/08/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I threw up in my mouth while sleeping
Not really a crime though, it's just a lung infection working itself out before I catch myself, huh.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: thelanzii]
    #23425188 - 07/08/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No they don't, I've even bought a glucose meter to monitor this a while ago when I started eating this way. Ketones do fuel your brain more efficiently, lots of people completely agree when they eat this way, it's also why they put epileptic kids on ketogenic diets. Body builders use insulin to shuttle carbs directly to their muscles, has nothing to with heightened insulin levels from animal products, idk where you got that. Trust me I've used insulin for this purpose. And I shouldn't say all carbs, I should say high glycemic carbs and net carbs. Vegetables are good because a lot of the carb content is fiber. You'll be so much worse off eating sugar than you would meat though. I read about doctors and surgeons that say it was excess carbs that cause inflammation, that and I've read other real studies but you can see all kinds of examples of people with arthritis or CVD that improved their conditions under ketosis. Also, most meat eaters also eat lots of junk too, most don't follow a ketogenic diet. I think you should look it up a bit yourself, if you really care to debate about it then just PM me, I'm not trying to get the thread off track.


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23425245 - 07/08/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Rich people make all kinds of shitty excuses for their excesses.  For example, in the Gym this morning, their were two rich fuckers, arrogantly talking about a guy who comes in every morning with a cart, and showers.  he is homeless.  they were saying shit like 'he's like a bad disease you can't get rid of'

I felt like telling them he doesn't have a silver spoon shoved up his ass like you two fucking turds, and maybe he has been through some shit so lay off.  I get tired of this shit, California is the worst example of the Rich Liberal NIMBY mindset. 

Fuck so people are poor, let them eat what they fucking want.  hell when I was poor i went days on end without eating.  So shut the fuck up.




Ok, who are you and why are you posting on starfires account?


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Re: Poor People Make Excuses By Whining About Eating Healthy Food Being More Expensive, when It's Not [Re: Crystal G]
    #23425414 - 07/09/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Eating healthy isnt about money, its about time, effort and taste.

Some people love nasty convenience foods. But youre right, healthy food can be cheaper than TV dinners, BUT its a lot more work to cook it.

Fat people are typically lazy and dont  like cooking and cleaning every meal.


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