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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23425162 - 07/08/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Its not so black and white, a lot of the murders are arguably caused by excessive use of force, some of them are demonstrably murder, but to lump all the people shot by cops into one category and try to generalize the problem based on that context isnt seeing the whole picture. Sure there are instances where the use of force was totally justified, but what people are really seeking is a balanced use of it and that isnt being given. Instead a crushing air of oppression is being generated in response and their behaviours are getting more and more hostile.
Then change the laws, stop bitching about potential abuse of power when the laws allow it in the first place.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: qman] 1
#23425163 - 07/08/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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To change the laws we have to remove the people in power and hold them accountable for crimes against humanity. The game is rigged.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1] 4
#23425164 - 07/08/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: Why don't the critics of law enforcement become cops and change everything?
as i've told them many times, join the PD and show them how it should be done
their vitriol is useless until they prove there's a better way
This is the most naive thing I've ever seen either of you post. Cops get in line and don't make waves. That's how it works. You don't last long if you start stirring things up.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1] 3
#23425166 - 07/08/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Pris. It is very difficult to fight something in the courts when the people you are fighting have corrupted the criminal justice system to serve their own needs.
so the juries, people such as me and you are the corrupt ones?
You are for sure.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23425168 - 07/08/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: Why don't the critics of law enforcement become cops and change everything?
as i've told them many times, join the PD and show them how it should be done
their vitriol is useless until they prove there's a better way
This is the most naive thing I've ever seen either of you post. Cops get in line and don't make waves. That's how it works. You don't last long if you start stirring things up.
are you saying you cant make change? maybe you should stop saying there a better way if you cant back it up
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomism]
#23425176 - 07/08/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They've effectively become self sustaining. They no longer need the publics approval. They rig it well enough that its main directives arnt even swayed by presidential transitions anymore, and speaking of that look who they place before you as nominations. What kind of fucking joke is that? You actually have the possible head of state embroiled in a corruption scandal during the presidential race, and admist all of this you expect a single person to be able to get in and change that? The votes of 330 million people cant change that.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods] 1
#23425181 - 07/08/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm still waiting for eminence to show me some examples of cops who stand up to abuse and corruption and remain cops.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23425186 - 07/08/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This election is the biggest shitshow ever, no doubt. They don't even fucking care anymore, they are so blatant.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23425192 - 07/08/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: Why don't the critics of law enforcement become cops and change everything?
as i've told them many times, join the PD and show them how it should be done
their vitriol is useless until they prove there's a better way
This is the most naive thing I've ever seen either of you post. Cops get in line and don't make waves. That's how it works. You don't last long if you start stirring things up.
are you saying you cant make change? maybe you should stop saying there a better way if you cant back it up
Pris, can you honestly sit there and tell me that you see no problems with the fact the people who investigate criminal activity by the police are the police themselves? The people who prosecute the police are the same people who rely on the police to build their cases?
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: qman] 1
#23425197 - 07/08/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Its not so black and white, a lot of the murders are arguably caused by excessive use of force, some of them are demonstrably murder, but to lump all the people shot by cops into one category and try to generalize the problem based on that context isnt seeing the whole picture. Sure there are instances where the use of force was totally justified, but what people are really seeking is a balanced use of it and that isnt being given. Instead a crushing air of oppression is being generated in response and their behaviours are getting more and more hostile.
Then change the laws, stop bitching about potential abuse of power when the laws allow it in the first place.
The laws are there. We have a fucking constitution. Cops don't care. They don't need to follow the law because they know nobody is going to enforce them when it comes to their own behavior
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomism]
#23425200 - 07/08/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does anyone else find it strange that this whole thing went down like hours after the FBI announced they wouldn't be recommending charges against Hillary even though they openly admit she committed treason.. what a perfect deflection.
And you mean to tell me a military trained sniper kills 5 cops, wounds 7 more... then holes up in a garage until a bomb on a robot is delivered to him and promptly blows him up.... but not before uttering, "I want to kill white people!!" Of course, no evidence of this exists, we're just supposed to take the cops' word for it.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomism] 3
#23425202 - 07/08/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well. This just went off the rails.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23425204 - 07/08/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Pris, can you honestly sit there and tell me that you see no problems with the fact the people who investigate criminal activity by the police are the police themselves? The people who prosecute the police are the same people who rely on the police to build their cases?
make some fucking change then
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomism]
#23425209 - 07/08/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Does anyone else find it strange that this whole thing went down like hours after the FBI announced they wouldn't be recommending charges against Hillary even though they openly admit she committed treason.. what a perfect deflection.
And you mean to tell me a military trained sniper kills 5 cops, wounds 7 more... then holes up in a garage until a bomb on a robot is delivered to him and promptly blows him up.... but not before uttering, "I want to kill white people!!" Of course, no evidence of this exists, we're just supposed to take the cops' word for it.
is it so hard to believe that with all these mass shooting committed by bigoted liberals that a racist hate movement like black lives matters wouldnt attract some violent thugs when their entire platform is about protesting the deaths of violent thugs
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23425221 - 07/08/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No that's not hard to believe at all, but Hillary has gotten very "lucky" lately despite all that's against her and all the pissed off citizens talking about how twisted she is, so a diversion wouldn't surprise me either
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23425243 - 07/08/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Does anyone else find it strange that this whole thing went down like hours after the FBI announced they wouldn't be recommending charges against Hillary even though they openly admit she committed treason.. what a perfect deflection.
And you mean to tell me a military trained sniper kills 5 cops, wounds 7 more... then holes up in a garage until a bomb on a robot is delivered to him and promptly blows him up.... but not before uttering, "I want to kill white people!!" Of course, no evidence of this exists, we're just supposed to take the cops' word for it.
is it so hard to believe that with all these mass shooting committed by bigoted liberals that a racist hate movement like black lives matters wouldnt attract some violent thugs when their entire platform is about protesting the deaths of violent thugs
Pris, with that classic southern racism.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#23425248 - 07/08/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Serious question, in all this time has Pris ever said one of these shootings was unjustified?
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods] 1
#23425253 - 07/08/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont think the thoughts ever crossed his mind let alone left his lips.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23425264 - 07/08/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Does anyone else find it strange that this whole thing went down like hours after the FBI announced they wouldn't be recommending charges against Hillary even though they openly admit she committed treason.. what a perfect deflection.
And you mean to tell me a military trained sniper kills 5 cops, wounds 7 more... then holes up in a garage until a bomb on a robot is delivered to him and promptly blows him up.... but not before uttering, "I want to kill white people!!" Of course, no evidence of this exists, we're just supposed to take the cops' word for it.
Have you read any of the Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/whatever posts made by people who support BLM? Tons of real racism coming from those people. Tons.
is it so hard to believe that with all these mass shooting committed by bigoted liberals that a racist hate movement like black lives matters wouldnt attract some violent thugs when their entire platform is about protesting the deaths of violent thugs
Pris, with that classic southern racism.
Have you read any of the Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/whatever posts made by BLM supporters? Tons of real racism coming from them. Tons. A lot of black people think it's racist too.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Eminence] 1
#23425269 - 07/08/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The voice of a few bad apples doesnt ruin the voice of the many.
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