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    #23420668 - 07/07/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Been smoking my supply of Changa. Trying to get used to the DMT/Changa experience. I absolutely love it.

So far I've had three very memorable experiences:

1. I smoked a good amount for the first time... Landed in what felt like a mushroom trip that was climbing toward the peak. Was covered in beautiful colors and geometry. Saw a bunch of Human/Animal faces lurching towards me and growling... Opening their mouths and going "Grawwwhhhkkk"
  - That surprised me. Didn't expect such pronounced auditory hallucinations w/ the strong visuals

2. I smoked more this time. Was in a totally dark room except for a small light shining on my big wooden dresser with 9 square Cubby-hole things in it. Saw each cubby hole transform into a Neon-electric Totem-Pole face. Each face was different and was making Chant-sounds and like bouncing up and down dancing. The mouths would flip around and the eyes on each of the faces would change shape...
  - That happened for about 10 minutes while I stared at it with my jaw dropped

3. I smoked the most I had ever smoked before tonight... I smoked as much as I could out of my pipe in two hits. I laid down when I saw how strong it was coming on. I saw the usual 'Entering-Hyperspace' colorful Tryptamine visuals rushing by me. I laid down watching the visuals go faster and get stronger...
    Then I saw what looked like foggy glass right in front of my closed eyelids. I heard a bunch of squealing and chattering and funny squeaky noises. Then I saw a bunch of slightly-blurry little alien kids or something run over on top of the glass to me. They were short, tiny little children creatures that looked like aliens with rubber skin. Each one of them had different color skin. Green/Orange/Blue. I saw the orange one in front. They sounded really excited and the orange one especially was like... Banging on the glass like it was trying to get to me. They all seemed like they reallyyyyy wanted to see me. Unfortunately they didn't. And the trip peetered-out.
    - The only other time I've ever met with something that felt like a conscious-being on a Psychedelic was a mushroom trip where I came into contact with a Blue Alien-Woman. But this changa got almost to that level, except they were little alien children! Of different colors, haha. It was like the glass was the thing that was in the way of me breaking-through and seeing the aliens. And they reallyyy wanteed me to break through. It's like they were squeaking: "Take another hit! Come on do it, we wanna see you!"

--- Tonight. I'm going to try to break-through. I tried smoking once today and what happened was I had actually put WAY too much into the pipe. I did my math wrong. I was thinking that each little baggy of changa had 5 Blast-Off's worth of Changa in it. They actually each have 10 trips' worth. So I eyeballed-it and put twice as much. Aout 100mg of DMT in my pipe.

I made sure to smoke it as best I could. In the middle of the second inhalation I saw myself being sucked into a portal or black-hole. I was like "Ohhh my godddd I think it's happening!". I inhaled the rest, held it in, and laid down...

All I remember is waking up at the tail-end of the trip when my room looked like a hologram that was losing its' static and getting clearer. Everything looked normal again. So basically I was unconscious during what was probably my craziest, most coolest Changa experience ever. Damn!!!
Oh well. I'll try again a couple of times tonight.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23420758 - 07/07/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Man I'm starting to really want to try smoking DMT. I always thought it would be a good idea and it's kinda on my bucket list, but I want to delve deeper with mushrooms first. You said you made "contact" on mushrooms too so I don't really know if you need DMT to get all the way there. Changa still seems like a decent idea... plus it seems fairly simple to make with everything legal except extracting it. Seems a lot quicker than waiting almost three months to get shroomies, assuming you don't fuck it up.

Anyway good write-up. Look forward to hearing where your next trip takes you.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: logikal]
    #23420820 - 07/07/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks a lot man!

Yeah. For me the mushroom trip was like landing on an alien planet and looking around at all of the cool stuff their and exploring the different laws that the planet operated by and having fun with that before leading up to the 'Alien encounter', which was the peak of the trip. Like the boss in a video game that I finally made it to after a long time.

The changa is like putting the spaceship into Hyperdrive and meeting the aliens so quickly that it's not even you going to meet them. It's more like they're so excited to meet you that they'll invade your room in 10 seconds to get to you.

Like the mushrooms are the long cinematic movie. The DMT/Changa is the short, zany cartoon. Funny that even the entity on mushrooms was a grown alien and looked intimidating almost while the DMT aliens were little childlike, cartoony creatures.

Can't speak for pure DMT, but if you can get Changa I would say you could do it before mushrooms. Cool thing about it is that you can smoke a lesser amount, see where it gets you, then up your dose later the same day and try again. The other night I smoked some leftover in my pipe and saw my blanket turn into a giant slithering snake.
Wasn't a breakthrough experience. Was still beautiful.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23421335 - 07/07/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I wanna do a DMT enema. OR sit in a steam room pumping out DMT smoke endlessly.

Then be like ""So you think you broke through bro?"

On a more serious note. I am always interested when black holes and psyches overlap and have to investigate.


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"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

"I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes!

"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: LRG]
    #23421698 - 07/07/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hahaa. I'd like a t-shirt like that with the DMT molecule on it and an alien/elf or something.

That experience got me thinking about black holes/singularities and how it relates to the Psych Experience.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23423013 - 07/08/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In a way, I think your trip depends on your mindstate. Your expectations, openness, creativity all play a part.

Am I right you've seen this video? Your 3rd trip description is very similar to it.



I think some people build up expectations of what to see and experience after watching videos and reading experiences about DMT. Your 4th trip being blank could have been from too big of a dose, or I think it could have been an empty mind. Your experiences might be limiting themselves to what you currently believe is possible, and you've basically run out of ideas. But to really experience it for yourself, you need to let go of those expectations and be truly open to whatever you receive.

I used to get those blanks too when I was rushing my experiences and chasing my first breakthroughs. It's new and exciting, but don't get excited and rush things. Slow down, don't schedule your next session. When the moment is right, you'll be more relaxed and open to visuals. I think it plays off your imagination in a way, like a dream. You need to both let the experience flow over you, then go with the flow and interact with it. If you're focusing too much on experiencing what you think you should, or even too focused on being unfocused, you'll get blanks. If you focus too much on what you experienced a moment ago, you'll lose the flow. "Don't give in to astonishment."

Sounds kind of paradoxical and maybe I'm totally misinterpreting your situation... but yea. It's a total puzzlebox and different every time. You'll find your way; but don't stress the search.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23424772 - 07/08/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That experience got me thinking about black holes/singularities and how it relates to the Psych Experience.




Yep. I'm heavily focused on that myself right now. Last 3 trips black holes were the focal point and I wasn't even trying the first two times. My dreams have been ramping up too the last few days. Remembering more than normal, constant lucidity within the dream, and really powerful images of large spherical masses containing, IDK but I could feel the power/weight of thoughts in my head last night. That's when the lucidity went away and the dream had a nightmarish aura within it. Wasn't a bad dream, but it just had that "Jaws" feeling to it, I guess. What I found truly interesting was despite the raw lucidity I had within my dream I could not penetrate that sphere, and you can usually do anything you want in a lucid dream. Also the second I realized that I woke up, and felt like I had slept for days but it was only 4am and I went to bed at midnight. Eerie or am I just imagining it?

I need to find out what's inside that big purple sphere. It appeared in my first large dose shroom trip and one other time. My gut tells me it's the Gaian Mind.


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"I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

"I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes!

"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."


Edited by LRG (07/08/16 08:57 PM)


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: Icon]
    #23435343 - 07/12/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Right right. Yeah I've listened to literally every Terence Mckenna video. And while hearing all of his descriptions did give me a lot of ideas as to what Psychedelics were like before trying them myself, they didn't match up to my first few trips. My first few trips were on LSD and 2CB. Once I got to Mushrooms I was surprised as to how much McKenna described actually did match up to what I experienced.

Not that I know what to expect every trip. I think my mushroom trips have basically given me the mindset of "Just take them and see what happens". It's always different for me. But at the same time, while each trip is unique, I definitely think that there are certain 'happenings' that occur very frequently on each of my Tryptamine experiences. It wasn't until I did Tryptamines that I finally "got" what Terence was always talking about.

I do try to keep an open mind though. It's just so cool to finally experiences those Contacts with Entities that people always talk about that I never understood. But yeah. Even with DMT/Changa I have had very wide-ranging experiences so far. So I know it could come out of left-field with something totally new and unique each time.

I had a couple very uncomfortable experiences recently. I think they probably happened because I was rushing with the DMT as you say. I just really wanted to see the aliens again haha! But I was put in a very weird place that didn't feel too good. I'll probably wait until I get my Vapor-Genie to blast-off again. Give it some time and try to solidify all of these experiences that I just had one-after-the-other.

I'm pretty sure though that the 'Blank' experience was from too much DMT. I was pretty much knocked unconscious hahahaa and I remember measuring it out wrong. :tongue:


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23435391 - 07/12/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have you tried taking mushrooms and smoking your changa at your peak?

I hear its amazing. Ive never tried DMT but i hope to by the end of this year.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: Rainman13]
    #23435407 - 07/12/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not yet! I've tried it with 2CB once and it was VERY strange.

I just immediately found myself in this Electrified-Dome place. The 2CB hallucinations were contained and swirling around inside of these crystal orb looking things that were planted on the dome walls all around me. And there was Blue/Purple electricity running through the walls of the dome. The orbs were going "BZZZZ BZZZ BZZZ" every few seconds.

It shocked me so much I was like "What... DId.... I.. Just... Do..." hahaaa. Interesting experience.

Next mushroom trip I will be smoking changa during it though. Which will be soon and I'll hopefully have a cool experience to write about. :strokebeard:

Go for it man! It'll be your new favorite for sure, haha.


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Re: Fell into a black hole then woke up at the end of the trip - Me + Changa so far [Re: Rainman13]
    #23435436 - 07/12/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Woah cool man.

I read this one trip report where someone ate mushrooms and right at the peak, smoked dmt. I vaguely remember the person saying they smoked it then some silver ball of light or something appeared and slowly floated towards the person and just sat there for 5-10 minutes while he sat there and stared in awe. No other visuals or anything just this silver ball of light or something. Sounds very intersting and not very typical to dmt trips.

I look foward to trying dmt but it all depends on me getting up off my ass and finding the right trees to do an extraction! IN THE NAME OF BOTANICAL SCIENCE!


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