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Another cop shoots black guy in America. * 1
    #23420104 - 07/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Litto] * 3
    #23420116 - 07/07/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How bout we start talking about all the white and Hispanic guys that get shot by cops too? Why do black people get so much coverage?

From what I see so far it looks pretty damn unnecessary, I just wish there wasn't always so much emphasis on the word "black" when these things happen. It's race baiting and exploitation at the same
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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Eminence]
    #23420125 - 07/07/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

this is truely a fucked up case..


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: rackem]
    #23420135 - 07/07/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Eminence] * 3
    #23420136 - 07/07/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
How bout we start talking about all the white and Hispanic guys that get shot by cops too? Why do black people get so much coverage?




We do...

The rate of whites and hispanics being gunned down is abysmal to what the black community is dealing with in this country.

Look at the demographics of prison populations and tell me what you see...

Must be all those crazy 'darkies' running wild on the streets, stepping on the white mans shadow :haha:


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Crixalis] * 3
    #23420170 - 07/07/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Crixalis said:
Quote:

Eminence said:
How bout we start talking about all the white and Hispanic guys that get shot by cops too? Why do black people get so much coverage?




We do...

The rate of whites and hispanics being gunned down is abysmal to what the black community is dealing with in this country.

Look at the demographics of prison populations and tell me what you see...





A massive disproportional amount of blacks convicted of murder, rape, sexual assault, physical assault, robbery, theft, ect. 

Did those crimes NOT have real victims with real perpetrators?


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Litto] * 1
    #23420197 - 07/07/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Found the full story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/07/minn-cop-fatally-shoots-man-during-traffic-stop-aftermath-broadcast-on-facebook/

This is some bullshit. Happened in Luisiana too.

Its because cops automatically believe that all blacks have guns and shoot cops whenever.

Paranoid trigger happy cops mans. Cops are evil pigs and should not carry guns. Murderous bastards.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Litto]
    #23420198 - 07/07/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That guy was driving on the wrong side of the car.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: qman] * 1
    #23420202 - 07/07/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You realize what you are saying, right?

I'm not agreeing with you nor disagreeing, which is kinda weird for me...

but can the issue really be that skewed? Is an entire race of people more prone to violence?

I literally can not fathom that.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Sun King] * 5
    #23420203 - 07/07/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If only the guy had a gun to defend himself


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Patlal]
    #23420207 - 07/07/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




:brilliant:


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Patlal]
    #23420218 - 07/07/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




sometimes I really appreciate you Patlal

in regards to the story, nothing to see here, same old same old, nothing will change


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: chevy66driver] * 7
    #23420255 - 07/07/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23420256 - 07/07/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




I know you thought you made a brilliant comment here, but it's a pretty bad example actually. This happens quite often despite people having no weapons on them too.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: qman]
    #23420258 - 07/07/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think I figured it out...

must be all the obnoxious gangster shit the hood is pumping out :cookiemonster:

Thanks a lot, Chief Keef! *bang bang*

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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420260 - 07/07/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering.




lol at cops helping people, let alone black people

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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23420262 - 07/07/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
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Patlal said:
If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




sometimes I really appreciate you Patlal

in regards to the story, nothing to see here, same old same old, nothing will change




So you're making judgments WITHOUT knowing any of the facts of the case, did you already forget about the false rushes to judgment in the Martin and Brown cases?


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420266 - 07/07/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone




Because you know what happened, please enlighten us.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Crixalis] * 1
    #23420270 - 07/07/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You realize what you are saying, right?

I'm not agreeing with you nor disagreeing, which is kinda weird for me...

but can the issue really be that skewed? Is an entire race of people more prone to violence?

I literally can not fathom that.




Its not really so much a race thing as it is a cultural thing, but yes, clearly they are more prone to it. That's not to say only black people are prone to negative traits though.

But it's getting of topic here because as far as I've seen this man didn't do anything wrong, but at the same time you can hear in the cops voice he feels like he fucked up and he's scared, at least to me it doesn't sound like a guy who shot him just because he's black.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Crixalis]
    #23420277 - 07/07/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think I figured it out...

must be all the obnoxious gangster shit the hood is pumping out :cookiemonster:

Thanks a lot, Chief Keef! *bang bang*

:excitedseal:




You say that sarcastically, but I'm willin to bet that is a contributing factor. Like I said I think it's more of a cultural thing than a race thing. It would make sense why it's the younger black men that are causing more crime than the older ones. The same kinda people you see on Facebook posting pictures of wads of money in their mouths with a gun pointed at the camera.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: qman] * 3
    #23420279 - 07/07/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone




Because you know what happened, please enlighten us.




Listen to the damn cop standing there as the guy bleeds out making excuses for what he did. Literally crying. We all know what happened. An ill trained, fearful man child who has no business being in a uniform fucked up and executed a citizen.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods] * 2
    #23420292 - 07/07/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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qman said:
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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone




Because you know what happened, please enlighten us.




Listen to the damn cop standing there as the guy bleeds out making excuses for what he did. Literally crying. We all know what happened. An ill trained, fearful man child who has no business being in a uniform fucked up and executed a citizen.




I'd rather not make a rush to judgment based on prejudice.

If the scenario that you outlined did actually occur, then hopefully justice will be served.

"An ill trained"

How come liberals always think they are qualified to determine whether a LEO has been properly trained or not?


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420293 - 07/07/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

and he should be tried as such.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods] * 1
    #23420300 - 07/07/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Listen to the damn cop standing there as the guy bleeds out making excuses for what he did. Literally crying.



This is salient IMO. You can really hear it in his voice. I work with an ex-cop. Immature as fuck even at my age. The kind of man who should never have been allowed to be a cop. Vindictive, aggressive and dishonest as they come.

Give an immature and unwise man a gun and this shit IS gonna happen.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: qman] * 1
    #23420309 - 07/07/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
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koods said:
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qman said:
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koods said:

Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone




Because you know what happened, please enlighten us.




Listen to the damn cop standing there as the guy bleeds out making excuses for what he did. Literally crying. We all know what happened. An ill trained, fearful man child who has no business being in a uniform fucked up and executed a citizen.




I'd rather not make a rush to judgment based on prejudice.

If the scenario that you outlined did actually occur, then hopefully justice will be served.

"An ill trained"

How come liberals always think they are qualified to determine whether a LEO has been properly trained or not?




It's clear that American cops have poor or negligent training. This is the only country in the modern world where cops routinely kill citizens. It's happens multiple times a day. Our crime rates aren't that different than other western countries, yet our cops kill people at a rate 100 to 500 times more often


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23420310 - 07/07/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, whether this is actually a case of prejudice or not, the requirements to become a cop are definitely sometimes too minimal it seems.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. *DELETED* [Re: koods] * 1
    #23420321 - 07/07/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods] * 1
    #23420324 - 07/07/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Anything short of that guy actually pointing a gun at the officer does not warrant lethal force. It's a fucking traffic stop. Why does he even have is gun out.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Ezuma]
    #23420329 - 07/07/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering.




lol at cops helping people, let alone black people

:smokinacandycane:




Believe it not, yes, some cops are actually extremely helpful..even towards black people. You just don't hear about it. You sound like an angsty teenager


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23420333 - 07/07/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Fucking asshole cop knew he messed up. Standing there shaking and crying and yelling excuses at the lady.

Maybe he did actually tell the guy not to reach once he said he was CC and had reason to believe he was going for a gun. Most likely though he just freaked out and shot him after the guy said he was reaching for his wallet. Sad thing is even though nobody wants to keep making this about race if that's a white man in the driver seat nothing would've happened.

I know we don't know the whole story but these cases are all pretty similar and almost always seem to be an overreaction by the officer because he saw a "gangster" and "feared for his life".




The cops are out of control and they will shoot anyone who flinches wrong, white or black. But let's be honest, if this guy was white the entire gun rights community would be losing their shjt right now about a second amendment patriot being executed simply for exercising his rights.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods] * 1
    #23420337 - 07/07/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

these threads are fucking stupid. some people just like to argue I guess... shit shouldn't even be on here.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Sanguin3] * 1
    #23420341 - 07/07/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Sanguin3 said:
Fucking asshole cop knew he messed up. Standing there shaking and crying and yelling excuses at the lady.

Maybe he did actually tell the guy not to reach once he said he was CC and had reason to believe he was going for a gun. Most likely though he just freaked out and shot him after the guy said he was reaching for his wallet. Sad thing is even though nobody wants to keep making this about race if that's a white man in the driver seat nothing would've happened.

I know we don't know the whole story but these cases are all pretty similar and almost always seem to be an overreaction by the officer because he saw a "gangster" and "feared for his life".




Every case is different and most of these "overreactions" end up being justifiable force.

They said Darren Wilson overreacted before we knew the facts of the case, so nothing is similar in these situations.

With all of that being said, this case does appear to be a overreaction, let's get the facts before rushing to judgment.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #23420345 - 07/07/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
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Ezuma said:
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koods said:
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chevy66driver said:
Don't try to stop the bleeding or anything, lady.




Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering.




lol at cops helping people, let alone black people

:smokinacandycane:




Believe it not, yes, some cops are actually extremely helpful..even towards black people. You just don't hear about it. You sound like an angsty teenager




There are good cops but they are part of a corrupt system run by the fraternal order of police. Police organizations really do not operate that differently than criminal street gangs, using intimidation and violence when necessary.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods] * 3
    #23420365 - 07/07/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've come to notice four very distinct topics that seem to get the USA members fully wound up here:

1. Guns/gun control
2. Abortion
3. LBGT stuff
4. Politics

So, to all you noobs out there, start and participate if you want to make yourself known.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23420385 - 07/07/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've come to notice four very distinct topics that seem to get the USA members fully wound up here:

1. Guns/gun control
2. Abortion
3. LBGT stuff
4. Politics

So, to all you noobs out there, start and participate if you want to make yourself known.




What about #5. I got high off L3-BnoI-43?


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420410 - 07/07/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

koods said:

Really? The cop had her at gun point. You think she would be alive if she tried to give him aide? How about the cop help the guy he ended up murdering. Instead he stands there quivering and making pathetic excuses for being a pussy who can't handle the slightest challenge without shooting someone




Because you know what happened, please enlighten us.




Listen to the damn cop standing there as the guy bleeds out making excuses for what he did. Literally crying. We all know what happened. An ill trained, fearful man child who has no business being in a uniform fucked up and executed a citizen.




I'd rather not make a rush to judgment based on prejudice.

If the scenario that you outlined did actually occur, then hopefully justice will be served.

"An ill trained"

How come liberals always think they are qualified to determine whether a LEO has been properly trained or not?




It's clear that American cops have poor or negligent training. This is the only country in the modern world where cops routinely kill citizens. It's happens multiple times a day. Our crime rates aren't that different than other western countries, yet our cops kill people at a rate 100 to 500 times more often




That doesn't mean they're not properly trained, when a citizen pulls a gun on a cop or starts firing bullets at them, that will usually result in the citizen getting killed, that's called a justifiable killing.

Many US citizens legally and illegally have guns, that fact changes the policing tactics because of that reality, ignoring that obvious fact makes you argument disingenuous.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420423 - 07/07/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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There are good cops but they are part of a corrupt system run by the fraternal order of police. Police organizations really do not operate that differently than criminal street gangs, using intimidation and violence when necessary.




True, but if it's necessary then it's necessary. The problem is using violence when it ISN'T necessary. Every cop I've encountered has actually been pretty pleasant to deal with, and I've had a couple black people with me during one of these incidents too and they were treated no different, I know this is anecdotal but still. But I live in a smaller town, cops are usually a lot easier to deal with if they're not dealing with a lot of people themselves.


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    #23420433 - 07/07/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's fine if a guy pulls a gun, but let's be honest, there are a lot of cases where nobody is pulling a gun and they still get shot.

You want to talk about not prejudging, how about we start with the cops not using lethal force until someone is clearly attempting to use lethal force. Lowering your hand, or scratching your nose or running away or being disrespectful is not justification for shooting someone. Cops first priority should be protecting the lives of citizens, not their own. If they can't handle a little risk, they have no business being a cop. If they want to be called heros like they are always bitching about, maybe they should act like heroes instead of pussies.


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    #23420441 - 07/07/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Every case is different and most of these "overreactions" end up being justifiable force.




What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420444 - 07/07/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.



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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420450 - 07/07/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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That's fine if a guy pulls a gun, but let's be honest, there are a lot of cases where nobody is pulling a gun and they still get shot.

You want to talk about not prejudging, how about we start with the cops not using lethal force until someone is clearly attempting to use lethal force. Lowering your hand, or scratching your nose or running away or being disrespectful is not justification for shooting someone. Cops first priority should be protecting the lives of citizens, not their own. If they can't handle a little risk, they have no business being a cop. If they want to be called heros like they are always bitching about, maybe they should act like heroes instead of pussies.




"nobody is pulling a gun and they still get shot"

That's true because a knife or a violent person can also cause a great deal of physical damage. Many people thought Wilson wasn't justified using his gun despite the fact that he got sucker punched on his eye socket and almost had his gun stolen in the process.

"If they can't handle a little risk, they have no business being a cop"

That's also true, but is being attacked by a 300 lb thug "a little risk"?  No, for some cops it's a weekly and monthly occurrence.

I have always said we have over-policing in the US, stop the war of drugs and the unsaid quotas for tickets, and many of these altercations end up going away.


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: koods]
    #23420457 - 07/07/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Every case is different and most of these "overreactions" end up being justifiable force.




What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.




I agree, I think most people wouldn't have an issue with a new standard of "justifiable force".

I'm not sure taking lessons from other places is going to help the problems inside of the US.


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    #23420515 - 07/07/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.



QFT





Your police force is the only one in the entire western world that are policing an armed society. As long as America continues to demand their 2nd amendment rights, this is the policing you will recieve, this much should be obvious.


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    #23420546 - 07/07/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Both this one and the La. shooting are horrible. Poorly trained cops in both...rednecks in the La. one. Cops need to have to pass some sort of psychological test that puts them in real time incidents like this. There is no way on earth that any of those cops should have been allowed to carry a gun.

Very sad, especially for the kids who lost their fathers.

One note I will make about the La. shooting is why on earth would that guy want to struggle with those cops? Just do what they say ....yes sir, no sir is what I was taught. Use common sense. This, of course, is no justification for those redneck cops actions...but...shit...don't provoke a rabid dog.


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    #23420566 - 07/07/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What is it like between Mexicans and blacks?

Stick to themselves, not too much interaction?


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What is it like between Mexicans and blacks?

Stick to themselves, not too much interaction?




From what I've personally seen..a lot of Mexicans and blacks stick together when it comes to prejudice against whitey, but they otherwise don't like each other :lol:


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What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.



QFT





Your police force is the only one in the entire western world that are policing an armed society. As long as America continues to demand their 2nd amendment rights, this is the policing you will recieve, this much should be obvious.




We are not the only country in the western world with legalized guns. Quit making shit up


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    #23420639 - 07/07/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.



QFT





Your police force is the only one in the entire western world that are policing an armed society. As long as America continues to demand their 2nd amendment rights, this is the policing you will recieve, this much should be obvious.




We are not the only country in the western world with legalized guns. Quit making shit up




Oh no. Did the nasty man say something that might be construed as negative about your little preciouses.

You are the only country in the western world where the police force will assume that everyone they have to deal with is armed and a potential danger, hense their brutal policing practices.

Yes, some other western countries allow the ownership of guns, but not the carrying of loaded handguns in the street, totally different.
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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23420642 - 07/07/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Very sad, especially for the kids who lost their fathers.

One note I will make about the La. shooting is why on earth would that guy want to struggle with those cops? Just do what they say ....yes sir, no sir is what I was taught. Use common sense. This, of course, is no justification for those redneck cops actions...but...shit...don't provoke a rabid dog.




Yes Sir No Sir is a fucking horrible way to exist..the fact that you have been assimilated is quite scary..

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    #23420682 - 07/07/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, dry my eyes? You're still wrong actually. Again, quit making shit up, and quit being condescending because you know you're wrong.


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    #23420699 - 07/07/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




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    #23420709 - 07/07/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

By saying that you're implying that everyone who's ever been shot by a cop has had a gun on them. And if you meant that cops also shouldn't have guns then of course he also could've ended up as one of the deaths caused by tasers, although less likely. America needs to find a way to cut way down on crime before any gun bans take place, I know if I were a cop I wouldn't want to rely on a baton and a one shot taser to keep me safe. Really all cops should just have body cams.


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    #23420721 - 07/07/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol, dry my eyes? You're still wrong actually. Again, quit making shit up, and quit being condescending because you know you're wrong.






I'll be as condescending as I damn well please.

I'd appreciate it if you could link me to which other western country, other than possibly Canada, that allows open or concealed carry.

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    #23420752 - 07/07/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If only the guy had a gun to defend himself




I think a gun ban would have prevented this tragedy.




fuck that

Everyone in the world needs to drop acid

We would wake up the next day and world hunger would vanish...

ISIS will proclaim they love america and i'll get the 72 virgins.

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    #23421198 - 07/07/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Oh no. Did the nasty man say something that might be construed as negative about your little preciouses.

You are the only country in the western world where the police force will assume that everyone they have to deal with is armed and a potential danger, hense their brutal policing practices.

Yes, some other western countries allow the ownership of guns, but not the carrying of loaded handguns in the street, totally different.
Now go dry your eyes.





Great, the british have joined the conversation.  Their so not pretentious at all. :whatever:


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    #23421427 - 07/07/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Both this one and the La. shooting are horrible. Poorly trained cops in both...rednecks in the La. one. Cops need to have to pass some sort of psychological test that puts them in real time incidents like this. There is no way on earth that any of those cops should have been allowed to carry a gun.

Very sad, especially for the kids who lost their fathers.

One note I will make about the La. shooting is why on earth would that guy want to struggle with those cops? Just do what they say ....yes sir, no sir is what I was taught. Use common sense. This, of course, is no justification for those redneck cops actions...but...shit...don't provoke a rabid dog.




Again, we do NOT know the facts of the Louisiana shooting, if you fight with the cops on the street with a gun, you will probably end up dead for good reasons.

You don't know if the cops in that situation did anything wrong, why prejudge this case?  Just because someone died doesn't mean it wasn't justifiable.

What happened after Obama prejudged the Martin and Brown cases?  He looked like a ignorant racist asshole who doesn't give a shit about the facts of a situation. Did he every apologize for wrongfully prejudging those case?  NO.


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    #23421448 - 07/07/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Protesters are busting caps in downtown Dallas. I fucking turn on the television and the place I go to everyday for work is on the damn TV screen with SWAT dudes swarming

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    #23421501 - 07/07/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good for them,get your riot on texas?cops just overeact all the time,scared bullys for the most part


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    #23421567 - 07/07/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Cops first priority should be protecting the lives of citizens, not their own. If they can't handle a little risk, they have no business being a cop. If they want to be called heros like they are always bitching about, maybe they should act like heroes instead of pussies.




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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


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why arent you talking about the demographic most targeted by police






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Every case is different and most of these "overreactions" end up being justifiable force.




What is considered justifiable force needs a sharp adjustment. For some reason police forces around the world know how to do things without killing people left and right. It's time we took some lessons from places that know what they are doing.





yeah. it's cultural because police forces around the world also kill far more than the cops in the US do as well

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    #23421969 - 07/07/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I love it when people from other countries with no fucking grasp of the situation here want to chime in and act like the solution to our problems is obvious.

Imagine guns are banned completely. Is that going to stop the officer here from thinking the guy reached for a gun when he made whatever movement he made? Fuck no. Gun laws have no involvement in these situations so gtfo with that nonsense.




I offered absolutely no sort of solution to your problem, I was just pointing out a reason, why your police are so trigger happy and brutal.

You don't like foreigners, especially the British it seems, commenting on anything American. Perhaps you should appeal to ythan to ban foreigners from the site. Good luck with that.
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Oh no. Did the nasty man say something that might be construed as negative about your little preciouses.

You are the only country in the western world where the police force will assume that everyone they have to deal with is armed and a potential danger, hense their brutal policing practices.

Yes, some other western countries allow the ownership of guns, but not the carrying of loaded handguns in the street, totally different.
Now go dry your eyes.





Great, the british have joined the conversation.  Their so not pretentious at all. :whatever:




This thread has absolutely nothing to do with the pretentiousness or otherwise of the British.

If you want to discuss that subject, there's a 'button' at the bottom of the list of threads. If you press that button you can create a thread of your own, where you can dicuss just about any subject under the sun. Just a heads up, as you Americans like to say.

See that. We can be patronizing bastards as well.:grin:


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Lol, dry my eyes? You're still wrong actually. Again, quit making shit up, and quit being condescending because you know you're wrong.




My appologies. I didn't know I was wrong, I do now.
After looking it up for myself, I came across this page.

https://sites.google.com/site/countrieswithlaxgunlaws/services .

The Chech republic seem to be the most lax followed by Switzerland.
Italy was an eye opener , though it does state. "Concealed carry permits are hard to obtain however, and normally only police officers and people with risks to their life can get them."

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    #23422099 - 07/08/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This thread has absolutely nothing to do with the pretentiousness or otherwise of the British.

If you want to discuss that subject, there's a 'button' at the bottom of the list of threads. If you press that button you can create a thread of your own, where you can dicuss just about any subject under the sun. Just a heads up, as you Americans like to say.

See that. We can be pretentious bastards as well.:grin:




Fixed.

All joking aside.  Feel free to get a passport and come on over.  I will help you rent a motel room in the shittiest part of town and then when you listen to the gunshots from your room you will be thankful that the police are in your neighborhood. 

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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: lowbrow]
    #23422240 - 07/08/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
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deucedbi9 said:
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with the pretentiousness or otherwise of the British.

If you want to discuss that subject, there's a 'button' at the bottom of the list of threads. If you press that button you can create a thread of your own, where you can dicuss just about any subject under the sun. Just a heads up, as you Americans like to say.

See that. We can be pretentious bastards as well.:grin:




Fixed.

All joking aside.  Feel free to get a passport and come on over.  I will help you rent a motel room in the shittiest part of town and then when you listen to the gunshots from your room you will be thankful that the police are in your neighborhood. 

Awaiting arrogant British reply....




My comment was nothing to do with your gun laws but an opinion as to why your police are so muderous and brutal in their policing, than anywhere else in the western world.

Maybe you could address the point rather than go of on some rediculous tangent.

While I'm at the keyboard, I'd like to offer an explanation as to why so many Americans seem to bridle at Britsh people commenting on these boards.

I think some of you can't get over the fact that this tiny little island nation off the north coast of Europe once ran the colonies. You had to have a war to obtain independence, which America won, with no inconsiderable help from Britains old adversaries, the French and Spanish.

Why still so much seeming resentment though? I'm guessing it stems from the history classes you all had. You learnt of all those heinous atrocities carried out by my forefathers, leaving every generation that leaves your school system with a jaundiced view of the British, as if we are still that people. Can you not see that that is as stupid as white guilt?


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Re: Another cop shoots black guy in America. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23422630 - 07/08/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is so not how I see britain at all.  I'd say you're the one with the biased view of our country.  I guess you don't understand the concept of a demographic that is prone to crime.  Shit is gonna happen when you don't obey a cop's orders.


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