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I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" * 2
    #23419863 - 07/07/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't ridden passenger with anyone in a while but when I used to, almost invariably when the driver claimed that someone cut them off, what happened was that the driver was going over the speed limit, and someone who was doing the speed limit changed lanes in front of them.

It's almost as if driver A, who consistently accuses driver X of cutting them off in traffic, thinks that driver X's primary consideration should be driver A's destination and safety rather than driver X's destination and safety.

It comes across as a very childish, self-centered attitude about the world.

I understand that sometimes people change lanes without any warning at the last second in order to make an exit. But let's be honest with ourselves. Who among us has not done this? We didn't realize an exit was approaching as quickly as it was, and we had to quickly change lanes in order to make the exit. Let him who has never done this be the first to accuse others of cutting them off.

Or am I missing something? It's just that I drive all the time and I never think to myself, "Fuck that guy for cutting me off." I sometimes think people could improve their use of turn signals and be more considerate of the speed at which other people are driving, but if someone gets in front of my who is going slower than I am, it doesn't make me mad. I just go around them.

I have never been in a major car accident. In fact in 10 years of driving I've never been in a moving collision at all. I once dinged a parked car, that's it.

In my experience, the people who got the most road rage about the "poor driving" of others were in fact themselves the worst drivers.

The only thing that gets on my nerves a bit is when there is a line of traffic going up to a freeway, and there is no traffic in an exit lane to a different freeway, and people intentionally go up the exit lane and then change lanes at the last second in order to avoid the line. I never let those people in, and you shouldn't either.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23419869 - 07/07/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:hmm:

This is getting cut off:



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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23419882 - 07/07/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This is getting cut off:





Okay sure man but how often does shit like that happen? Very rarely to me, and even if it did happen it wouldn't make me like, mad. The guy got delayed by what, 3 seconds? Obviously that driver in front of him just wasn't sure whether he or she needed to make a right at that intersection.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23419886 - 07/07/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yep, basically someone cutting in front of you, generally at excessive speed sometimes causing you to break. If you drive defensively and check your mirrors and blind spots it rarely happens, but has happened to me. The best course of action is to ignore it and move on, confrontation is never beneficial.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: falsereality]
    #23419892 - 07/07/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How have you been driving for 10 years and not understand the concept? It's pretty easy

Certain driver's have the "right of way". If someone pulls out in front of them and the driver with the right of way has to even use the foot brake at all, then he got cut off. Pretty simple concept


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23419893 - 07/07/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This too, is getting cut off:




It happens often enough that crashes happen because of it.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #23419898 - 07/07/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You're missing something. Getting cut off is when someone cuts in front of you at an unsafe distance. And often driving slower than they should be for such a manuever.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: falsereality]
    #23419901 - 07/07/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yep, basically someone cutting in front of you, generally at excessive speed sometimes causing you to break. If you drive defensively and check your mirrors and blind spots it rarely happens, but has happened to me. The best course of action is to ignore it and move on, confrontation is never beneficial.





Some crazy asshole followed me the other day because I cut him off. It wasn't a bad cut off. I turned my blinker on then this asshole who was behind me in the lane next to me started to speed up because he didn't want me in front of him. So I said fuck you and just turned anyways. It wasn't that bad. But then he started tailing me so I brake checked him a few times and flipped him off a few times, and then he followed me to the gym. He got outta his car and stared yelling at me and I just called him a fucking psycho. He for real had anger issues, which I pointed out, which only made him more angry. He stuck his hand in my car and was waving around in an angry tirade so I closed my window on him lol, with his arm in it. Basically I antagonized the shit out of him, but at the same time if he wasn't such a dick then none of that would have happened

At one point I was purposely driving slow so he tried to pass me then I drove way faster and passing me wasn't possible bc of cars on the other side of the road. That was funny


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #23419911 - 07/07/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In 7 years of driving I have never had a single instance of feeling like someone "cut me off" either.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: UncleCid] * 4
    #23419915 - 07/07/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some crazy asshole followed me the other day because I cut him off. It wasn't a bad cut off. I turned my blinker on then this asshole who was behind me in the lane next to me started to speed up because he didn't want me in front of him. So I said fuck you and just turned anyways. It wasn't that bad. But then he started tailing me so I brake checked him a few times and flipped him off a few times, and then he followed me to the gym. He got outta his car and stared yelling at me and I just called him a fucking psycho. He for real had anger issues, which I pointed out, which only made him more angry. He stuck his hand in my car and was waving around in an angry tirade so I closed my window on him lol, with his arm in it. Basically I antagonized the shit out of him, but at the same time if he wasn't such a dick then none of that would have happened

At one point I was purposely driving slow so he tried to pass me then I drove way faster and passing me wasn't possible bc of cars on the other side of the road. That was funny




You cut him off, told him to "fuck you", brake checked him multiple times, flipped him off a few times, and then rolled the window up on his arm. You realize how much of an overreaction is to his behavior?


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: falsereality]
    #23419924 - 07/07/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

He was tailing me and refused to let me in front of him even though I had the space to merge. He didn't speed up until I put my blinker on. So he can go fuck himself

And yeah if some fucking random asshole sticks his hand in my car and waves it around like a crazy person, then yeah I'll roll the window up on you lol

Basically none of that would have happened if he didn't start tailing me after that. He was the instigator, easily. Like I cut him off, barely. It happened, get the fuck over it


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Sheekle]
    #23419942 - 07/07/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In 7 years of driving I have never had a single instance of feeling like someone "cut me off" either.



I mean I've had times where I felt like people changed lanes in an unsafe manner in front of me. But it was never "about me". It was always about them. To me the whole "cutting ME off" concept is weird because it makes it "about me", as if the driver doing the "cutting off" is "thinking about me" when they do it. No, they're just making moderately irresponsible lane changes.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23419967 - 07/07/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In that case, You are cutting THEM off for getting in their way! :lol:

Its called "cutting off"  cause a driver comes in fornt of the direction of travel of your own car that you are in.

Ive done it a couple times, to make an exit.

I excuse people who do it when they take an exit directly afterwords. But i feel violated when im cut off on the freeway and thy dont take an exit. Then they are just an asshole.

Its a dangerous move that should only be done in a racing course, not on a pubic road. :nonono:


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23420004 - 07/07/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I see getting cut off all the time.  Usually when driving the speed limit someone pulls out in front.  This slows down traffic and a lot of time they are just going to turn off shortly, slowing down the traffic again.

Or, someone pulls a left turn onto a road out of a business and doesn't wait for someone turning right onto the road.

I also witness people taking turns at traffic lights when a pedestrian has the light to cross a street.

People + vehicle = very stupid


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23420021 - 07/07/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In that case, You are cutting THEM off for getting in their way! :lol:


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23420032 - 07/07/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

cause u said its self centered.

So what if u took the perspective of the OTHER driver, as in the one doing the cutting off.

In that sense, the car is cutting off the car that is cutting that car off cause its in the way of the car cutting the other car off.

Get it?


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #23420035 - 07/07/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Okay sure man but how often does shit like that happen?



Depends where you drive. Try driving frequently in the centre of any major city and you'll find it happens often.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23420056 - 07/07/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Okay sure man but how often does shit like that happen?



Depends where you drive. Try driving frequently in the centre of any major city and you'll find it happens often.



I live in the fourth largest city in the country and have a 30 mile round trip to work on two major freeways daily.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23420063 - 07/07/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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cause u said its self centered.

So what if u took the perspective of the OTHER driver, as in the one doing the cutting off.

In that sense, the car is cutting off the car that is cutting that car off cause its in the way of the car cutting the other car off.

Get it?



No, if a car is able to change lanes in front of me, I am clearly not in the place in which the car is changing lanes, or else a collision would occur.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23420152 - 07/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Okay sure man but how often does shit like that happen?



Depends where you drive. Try driving frequently in the centre of any major city and you'll find it happens often.



I live in the fourth largest city in the country and have a 30 mile round trip to work on two major freeways daily.




Not every city is gonna have the same traffic :shrug: I see it at least five times a day


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #23420303 - 07/07/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Christ you are dense eh?


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: stzacrack]
    #23420314 - 07/07/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23420317 - 07/07/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ever hear of a Jersey Swerve? It's when someone in the fast lane realizes that they've got to get off at the upcoming exit(usually as they're basically passing it) and they swerve through a couple lanes of traffic sans blinker in order to make it instead of taking the next one. Anytime someone swerves infront of me and I have to step on the brakes as a result, I'd consider that being cut off - it's scary when it happens at 80 mph, which is why most people find it annoying. I don't really feel much rage behind the wheel honestly, the only thing that really bothers me is living in a state where people don't understand the mechanism of a passing lane and sit in the left lane with a parade of cars behind them.



Cutting people off is kind of a way of life if you have to drive in any of the Bos-Washington cities, you kind of have to do it even sometimes with pedestrians(that sounds worse than it is) at one point or another if you want to get anywhere, but because traffic usually doesn't get over 35 mph in the cities anyway so it's really nbd.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23420596 - 07/07/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I see getting cut off all the time.  Usually when driving the speed limit someone pulls out in front.  This slows down traffic and a lot of time they are just going to turn off shortly, slowing down the traffic again.

Or, someone pulls a left turn onto a road out of a business and doesn't wait for someone turning right onto the road.

I also witness people taking turns at traffic lights when a pedestrian has the light to cross a street.

People + vehicle = very stupid




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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23420625 - 07/07/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Cutting people off is kind of a way of life if you have to drive in any of the Bos-Washington cities, you kind of have to do it even sometimes with pedestrians(that sounds worse than it is) at one point or another if you want to get anywhere, but because traffic usually doesn't get over 35 mph in the cities anyway so it's really nbd.




Very true. Certain parts of the country drive much more aggressively than others


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23420728 - 07/07/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Okay sure man but how often does shit like that happen?



Depends where you drive. Try driving frequently in the centre of any major city and you'll find it happens often.



I live in the fourth largest city in the country and have a 30 mile round trip to work on two major freeways daily.



You live in Houston right? You've been cut off, repeatedly. I fucking HATE going to Houston because of the way people there drive. I never really noticed until I was the one doing the driving. I went usually at least once or twice a month as a kid and never thought anything of the traffic. I practically had PTSD the first time I really drove there myself. I'm guessing you're just used to people driving like that and that is why you don't get it.

I don't live in Houston but close enough that I end up going there regularly still. There's no shortage of assholes and idiots where I live, but it's nothing compared to Houston. If I wasn't such a defensive driver I would've already had several wrecked cars from going into Houston. Almost every single time someone cuts me off to the point I have to slam on the brakes and pray I don't lose traction. If I weren't actively looking for these people before they become a problem, there's no way I'd get out of it without wrecking.

I'd say in my city I get cut off a few times a month or so depending on how much driving I do and at what point of the day. I do what I can to prevent it from even being a possibility but I can't prevent it 100% of the time. If I notice someone weaving in and out of lanes behind me I'll get close enough so they don't have room to merge in front of me or match their speed so they can't get around. If they really have to get somewhere a car length faster than everyone else, then they better be fast enough to get around the person in front of me, too. That or fall in line behind me. I don't drive slow, and I don't come to a full stop just to make a turn. There's no reason you need to be in front of me. Being stuck in traffic sucks, stop being that guy and deal with it like everyone else.

As for me cutting someone off. Never really happens. As mentioned above I find lane hopping to be highly annoying and don't do it. I get in whatever lane I need to be in for my destination and stay there. I only pass when it's actually warranted, like someone driving 20 in a 40 or an obstruction in the road or whatever. Though I guess it helps I never really do much driving outside of my city and know it so well. Almost never a last minute lane change required because I didn't know where I needed to turn.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23420800 - 07/07/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: just after OP started this thread I was cut off by a red truck and he waved to me as a sort of apology, I waved back, it was all good.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23420863 - 07/07/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I usually do the apology wave too to help me feel like less of a dick if I do something dumb or to thank people for letting me in to merge or something.

And ever since I got followed by a road rager instead of flipping people off I usually stick my hand out the window and give them a thumbs up hoping that they'll get the sarcasm :lol:. That's only when someone does something REALLY dumb tho.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #23420982 - 07/07/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's been months since I had to slam on the brakes because someone changed lanes in front of me :shrug:


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #23420992 - 07/07/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's been months since I had to slam on the brakes because someone changed lanes in front of me :shrug:




Boom. You got cut off. You get it now right?


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #23421005 - 07/07/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's been months since I had to slam on the brakes because someone changed lanes in front of me :shrug:



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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421028 - 07/07/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's been months since I had to slam on the brakes because someone changed lanes in front of me :shrug:





I'm in Philly. Driving is a bloodsport here. The roads are narrow, old, and have potholes and huge manholes that will fuck your car right up so you're dodging those as well as buses, people, cyclists - not a day goes by that I don't get cut off :shrug:.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/schuylkill-expressway-philadelphia

I hear Houston is pretty bad traffic wise too, but it probably helps that your roads are waay better and modern, but I've heard traffic is gnarly there too.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #23421055 - 07/07/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's been months since I had to slam on the brakes because someone changed lanes in front of me :shrug:




Yeah, that is why people get mad. How can you not understand this? You're in a 2,000lb  chunk of metal that could easily kill you or someone else. They get mad because they don't want to die because some guy in a hurry, doesn't think the rules of the road apply to him, and cuts them off. Even if they don't die in the accident it is still a hassle to go through that and expensive.

Half my job is driving so I see a lot of bad accidents and crazy driving. There have been numerous times that someone cut me and others off on the freeway and then a few miles up the road they are in an accident.

One time some kid thought he was in the Fast and Furious movie. Everybody on the freeway was doing about 50mph because of traffic and this kid thought it would be a good idea to do 80mph and weave thru everybody else. 2 miles up the road he hit the rail hard, then went across 4 lanes of traffic and hit another car that didn't get much damage. I didn't feel that bad for the driver, but I did for the passenger. I doubt either of them made it out alive.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421062 - 07/07/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In 7 years of driving I have never had a single instance of feeling like someone "cut me off" either.



I mean I've had times where I felt like people changed lanes in an unsafe manner in front of me. But it was never "about me". It was always about them. To me the whole "cutting ME off" concept is weird because it makes it "about me", as if the driver doing the "cutting off" is "thinking about me" when they do it. No, they're just making moderately irresponsible lane changes.





I don't like when people suddenly change lanes without looking and without a turn signal. It might be selfish but I also not like getting into an accident where I can be seriously injured or killed.


I try to be safe. I follow at a good distance. I use my turn signals. Yes I've made mistakes but I've never been flat out reckless. However the only times I've been seriously cut off is when someone merges at the last second when they're supposed to yield or when they change lanes in an intersection (which is illegal here.)


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 1
    #23421070 - 07/07/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

https://www.allstate.com/tools-and-resources/americas-best-drivers.aspx

Texas also has some of the safest driving conditions in the country, with a Texas city being #1 according to allstate.


Another site also lists a Texas city as #1

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-cities-to-be-a-driver/13964/


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23421148 - 07/07/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't be fooled. Texas is a big state with a lot of tiny quiet towns in it. Chances are pretty good it'd wind up on the top 10 of anything really. Pretty sure OP is from Houston, and it is rated pretty poorly on both of those links. It's 166/200 in the first one and the safety column in the second link it's 93/100. I've been through a good bit of the East side of Texas over my life and Houston seems to be more representative of the drivers I've seen than the drivers in small quiet retirement cities.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23421175 - 07/07/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good point.

I feel like I was trying to play devils advocate for OP though. I don't know how he can't understand what getting cut off is :lol:





Honestly though what really pisses me off is people playing on their damn phones while they're driving. Any time I see a car swerving in their lane or accelerating and decelerating over and over again and just clearly not paying attention, I pass to get the hell away from them and sure enough they're on the phone. There's excuses for most things but not for that.


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    #23421238 - 07/07/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've never driven through or around any other major cities, but I used to live near Atlanta and that shit is fucking NUTS to drive through. Speed limits like 55 or 60 but if you're not going at least 80 you'll get run over. People drive like idiots at all times of the day swerving through lanes and cutting 2-3 people off in one swoop.

Glad I don't have to deal with that nonsense anymore, small town ftw.



I guess I am just used to it? I mean I just pay a lot of attention to the movement of the cars around me. I don't rely on other people using turn signals, I pay attention to the micromovements of their car to get a sense of what they might do next, and what I might need to start doing in response- like slowing down.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23421253 - 07/07/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that's pretty much how it is in Houston. If you're not doing at least 70 or 75 you got people passing you on both sides. People swerve in and out of lanes and jump 2-3 lanes at once, even when everything is highly congested. One of the main reasons I hate driving in Houston is how close everyone gets, somehow it's completely normal for people to merge with maybe a foot of clearance behind and in front, distances that are close enough that I personally wouldn't be able to tell whether I was gonna be clipping someone or not. Also during rush hour it will go from 70 to a dead stop really goddamn fast and a lot of times you really can't see it coming. You and everyone else are just all of the sudden braking really hard and hoping everyone is paying attention and people STILL FUCKING LANE JUMP suddenly in all of this. When just 10-20 feet of stopping room is the difference between knowing you're gonna make it and shitting your pants some asshat wants to jump in front of you. :crankey:


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421396 - 07/07/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

An abrupt / improper lane change can kill if you happen to be checking your rearview mirror for that half a second. It seems pretty reasonable to be upset by it.

I have been in the car with a lot of shitty drivers who are constantly road raging though, they think eveyone else is a shitty driver but you can't feel safe going to a grocery store with them.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421400 - 07/07/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know how you feel about traffic annoyances. I go to my friends house weekly to chill. The road leading to his area has a speed limit of 30mph. It actually turns into 25mph around a sharp turn. I go 35mph on this road. People behind me have tail gated more than often. They like to go 45mph on this road and there is just no way I'm going to do that. Local law enforcement near the end of each month will watch this area closely and give people tickets all the time, near the end of each month.

I used to drive with pot all the time to my friends house when I used to smoke. I got into the habit of always obeying speed limits. I no longer do any thing illegal but i still follow the speed limit. They love to tail gate on this road but I do not budge. When I go to turn onto my buddy's road I do it very nice and slow for them.

Once I got pissed off and this guy went to pass me after tail gating me very closely so I just sped up just as fast as he was so he could not. He was blowing the horn. Then the road came I needed to turn onto so I had to slow down and he passed.

Even tho I gave in that time I will not do it again. It's wrong. I have learned to just let them ass holes pass.

However I have considered buying a marque light up board to put on the back of my vehicle that say's "The speed limit is only 30mph asshole.", because it happen's to often to me.

I'm serious they like to go 45mph on this road. I have sped up purposeless once or twice over the years, even at 40mph they still tailgate. It's ridiculous. It's because of miss conception of the speed limit and the ignoring of the signs. After the road I have to turn on there is a sign and the limit becomes 35mph then farther down it becomes 40, then 60. It's very annoying tho. It's only 30mph up to my buddy's road just a little bit passed it.

So a light up sign I will seek out to use one day. So I can flip a switch and call em all assholes. Because they are indeed, assholes.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421603 - 07/07/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Great Scott]
    #23421750 - 07/07/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Most people(and thus most drivers) have little regard for the lives of others. That makes it okay for them to change lanes as you drive up from behind them, imposing their vehicle directly in front of you which poses a danger to you, them, and also any one else on the road. That is the fact.

It doesn't matter who is right on wrong, who was driving over the speed limit or whatever excuse anyone can muster. It's calling being negligent. It's a privilege to drive a car and it is your responsibility to do so safely. That means watching the fuck out when you shift lanes.

Accidents happen. We don't see a guy or we misjudge how fast they are going, we drive a shitty car and it can't get up the hill. It happens and if you notice and feel bad then pat yourself on the back because you have a shred of decency left in you.

On the flip side, most people (and thus most drivers) are completely self-centered when drive. They think the world revolves around them and take everything as a personal offense.

Sure, there are rules on the road so don't get butt hurt because you're trailing behind a guy going the speed limit who can't pass anyone.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #23421761 - 07/07/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think the majority of people are as shitty as you make them out to be, dumb and absent minded fits the bill more imo.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23421797 - 07/07/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think the majority of people are as shitty as you make them out to be, dumb and absent minded fits the bill more imo.




Youre right, and I don't think being dumb and absent minded makes you a shitty person. Endangering the lives of others through recklessness makes most drivers shitty people, if only for a moment in their driving career.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #23421942 - 07/07/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like when one is driving in a car just obey the speed limits and be calm. You already have to drive and one might as well deal with it positively. I used to get upset and realized it is for nothing. What's the point? It's a waste of time and energy.:grin:

I never raged but would get really stressed, for no reason. I make mistakes at times so I give the friendly wave if I do, and also when someone else screws up and "cuts me off". I just ignore it and be glad I didn't get in an accident. If you are late, you're already late, go the speed limit and be calm. :grin: Being somewhere 5 mins earlier is not worth ANY stress or a potential accident. I have been driving in big cites and rural arras for over 35 years and have been in 1 wreck that was totally my fault.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23421964 - 07/07/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is getting cut off


So is this


And this
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Dead
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c6_1243255220

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Any questions?
It's stupid careless and causes accidents all the time. People die. It's not some imaginary thing.


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I mean I just pay a lot of attention to the movement of the cars around me. I don't rely on other people using turn signals, I pay attention to the micromovements of their car to get a sense of what they might do next, and what I might need to start doing in response- like slowing down.




And this is how you should be by default with all the retards on their cell phones out there in 2 ton death machines.
Especially now that Pokemon Go is out.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #23421988 - 07/08/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Someone who doesn't grasp the concept of "being cut off" after driving for 10 years is probably a person that cuts off people all the time and doesn't think twice about it.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: UncleCid] * 1
    #23422046 - 07/08/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How have you been driving for 10 years and not understand the concept? It's pretty easy

Certain driver's have the "right of way". If someone pulls out in front of them and the driver with the right of way has to even use the foot brake at all, then he got cut off. Pretty simple concept




You can't drive any where in London without doing this.  You'd be motionless lol

I agree with it being childish if you can't just deal; with it calmly and carry on.  I see insane shit every day on the roads don't let it phase you.  If you're shouting al the time then your deffo the childish one with a temper problem. 

Roads are dangerous places full of idiots, nutters, old people who can't see etc etc  If you can't handle breaking cuz someone makes a mistake then don't get in a car.

I've had a lot more crazier shit than being cut off to worry ahout.  A few weeks ago someone was going round the roundabout the wrong way at 40mph... 


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23423401 - 07/08/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's a really big issue in NJ where everyone drives at a different speed, most people on the interstates are going at least 10 mph over the speed limit with only 1 car length between the car in front/behind them, and half the population sucks at driving.  I see it happen all the time and it happens to me at least once a year.  You just have to be really alert  to drive here because of congestition so it generally doesn't turn into an accident. Doesn't make it any less infuriating though.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: fapjack]
    #23423552 - 07/08/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly I prefer NJ drivers to PA or NY drivers, and I'm from PA - I've noticed that as long as you stay the fuck out of their way, NJ drivers are actually way better - and they never sit in the left lane or at least move over for faster traffic.


Your highway system makes like 0 sense to me half the time, and it does turn into a traffic hell when you start getting remotely close to rush hour on most of the major thoroughfares, but I don't mind the drivers at all :shrug:


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: UncleCid]
    #23423611 - 07/08/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some crazy asshole followed me the other day because I cut him off. It wasn't a bad cut off. I turned my blinker on then this asshole who was behind me in the lane next to me started to speed up because he didn't want me in front of him. So I said fuck you and just turned anyways. It wasn't that bad. But then he started tailing me so I brake checked him a few times and flipped him off a few times, and then he followed me to the gym. He got outta his car and stared yelling at me and I just called him a fucking psycho. He for real had anger issues, which I pointed out, which only made him more angry. He stuck his hand in my car and was waving around in an angry tirade so I closed my window on him lol, with his arm in it. Basically I antagonized the shit out of him, but at the same time if he wasn't such a dick then none of that would have happened

At one point I was purposely driving slow so he tried to pass me then I drove way faster and passing me wasn't possible bc of cars on the other side of the road. That was funny




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    #23424040 - 07/08/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The closer you are to NYC the worse the drivers are.  A lot of people that live in North NJ don't commute to work, they take the train everyday.  They use their car for the weekends or around town, and never really master how to drive on highways.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23424049 - 07/08/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also, just because you're ignorant or too inattentive doesn't mean something hasn't happened..

It just means you're ignorant and inattentive :shrug:


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    #23427540 - 07/09/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Someone who doesn't grasp the concept of "being cut off" after driving for 10 years is probably a person that cuts off people all the time and doesn't think twice about it.



Maybe I just don't get mad about shit very easily?

Seems to me that when I rode with other people, the same people who would be complaining about the poor driving habits of others, and constantly accusing others of cutting them off, were precisely the same people with poor driving habits who didn't use their blinkers.

Again, I've never been in a moving collision, so like. It's hard for me to see myself as being a poor driver.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23428503 - 07/10/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My grandparents didn't have any accidents the last 10 years of their lives either and they couldn't drive worth a shit.  A better indicator of how good you are at driving is how many total points you've gotten on your license  divided by how many accidents you've had.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
    #23429113 - 07/10/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Someone who doesn't grasp the concept of "being cut off" after driving for 10 years is probably a person that cuts off people all the time and doesn't think twice about it.



Maybe I just don't get mad about shit very easily?

Seems to me that when I rode with other people, the same people who would be complaining about the poor driving habits of others, and constantly accusing others of cutting them off, were precisely the same people with poor driving habits who didn't use their blinkers.

Again, I've never been in a moving collision, so like. It's hard for me to see myself as being a poor driver.




10 years of driving isn't exactly a gold standard or anything. Any professional driving courses? Is that 30,000 miles a year or what?
I've been driving for 20 years and I had never been in a moving accident until a month or two ago. But wasn't my fault.. it was my brain's... I blacked out.
I've also avoided countless accidents caused by other retard drivers through acute situational awareness,
Yes.... with skill, reaction speeds and hyper awareness of the other cars around you, you can mitigate or avoid a lot of the risks. But that doesn't mean the shit doesn't exist. 

And yeah some people are just dumb and rage all the time at the most minor things, they are probably not that great either.
But that doesn't mean there's not metric fucktons of completely shitty drivers out there that aren't paying any attention.

My friend got cut off by a chick who pulled into his lane without looking, he was in the carpool lane cruising at about 80 and she pulled in putting at about 20. (Happened almost exactly like that first video I posted) He's an expert driver (no joke) but that didn't fucking matter, there was no way he could avoid her and ended up slamming into her, totaling his and her car.

Being a good driver doesn't mean you are never going to get in an accident and it doesn't mean people don't cut other people off and cause accidents. Yeah being super aware certainly helps. But if you've been driving for 10 years and you still don't understand the concept of being cut off I don't think I can help.


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Re: I've been driving for 10 years now and still don't get the idea of getting "cut off" [Re: morrowasted]
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In my experience, the people who got the most road rage about the "poor driving" of others were in fact themselves the worst drivers.




You apparently have very little experience.


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