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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: thegoodwolf]
    #23491417 - 07/30/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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thegoodwolf said:
Are "yeast nutrients" easy to find and where is the cheapest, quality source?




Thats a good question, I get mine from a local general store, check shops that sell brewing kits.
I'm sure you can also order it online from sources such as google shopping or ebay.

It's about £1 GBP, $1.32 USD, for 50g. You need 250g per 1kg of SPF.

I've listed the nutrients, so you can check the label.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23492181 - 07/30/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

sweet, super cheaps then, I live in the middle of no where so I always ask/thoroughly look for online (lol) just in case I'm missing it when I check my few limited stores here haha
Also will I lose a significant amount of nutrients if I PC bags of this recipe?

Much love, thanks for the guidance thus far!

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: thegoodwolf]
    #23492209 - 07/30/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Yes its very cheap, 1kg of SPF and 250g of YN costs me £8 GBP, $10.58 USD.
It makes 400 runs of 100g (dry), 40kg in total, 0.02p per run.

Cook however you like, or not at all.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23498193 - 08/01/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Updated the Tek follwing recent information, heat pasteurization is now suggested.

Please refer to the orginal post for further information.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23508834 - 08/04/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

thought it seemed insane sounding to not at least pasteurize lol, only 40-60 minutes? I'd be careful with temps and make it longer to be thorough about heating the substrate throughout it's entirety

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: thegoodwolf]
    #23510082 - 08/04/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Paper pellets should already be clean of mold, SPF and YN need no treatment.
It's the pet pellets that need to be cleaned, or made clean.

Without the pet pellets, little treatment is needed.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23519247 - 08/07/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I've added a basic cooking guide for this tek, adapt as necessary.
I also added the use of Iodine for some species, strains.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23522515 - 08/08/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

which plant food were you using? Was looking through their liquid plant foods today and they differ some.

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23524021 - 08/09/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Miracle-Gro® SPF

   


Miracle-Gro® LPF

   


Yeast Nutrients

   


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23524455 - 08/09/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

thanks again.

Thought you meant nutritional yeast like what you see at grocery store. Probably pretty much the same thing though

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23525551 - 08/09/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Your water ratios really are worded in the most confusing way possible.

What I think you're trying to say is:

sub g : water g = sub% : water% (by weight)
1:1 = 50%:50%
1:2 = 33%:66%
1:3 = 25%:75%
1:4 = 20%:80%


Regardless, these experimental runs you've been doing are great.  I'll be using this as a guide in a couple weeks when my agar matures.  I'll let you know how it pans out under my own conditions.

Edited by jasen (08/09/16 06:07 PM)

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: jasen]
    #23527148 - 08/10/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Thats correct jasen, sorry yes I must be confusing some people. My water table looks like this:


Code:
  Times  |  Parts  |  Percent

1 | 1 | 50
2 | 2 | 66



So if I said add 50% water, you would know thats x1 substrate, or 1 part.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23581027 - 08/26/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

WL Tek being used as a cake, it can also be used as spawn.

   

This is a test probiotic sample, fully clean.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23614219 - 09/05/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I've read this thread about a dozen times and am still confused.

Let me try to recap in a way that is clear and concise.

Quote:

WL Tek (does this stand for Wood Lovers Tek? ... if not wtf does this stand for?)

For every 100g of wood pellet products use the following ...
  • 2.5ml Miracle-Gro® soluble plant food or liquid plant fertilizer

    (Are you sure you're using the same volume for soluble vs. liquid fertilizer?  Since soluble is solid and liquid is not ... this seems odd to me)

  • 100g paper pellets, wood pellets (do you mean sawdust pellets or something else?), cardboard or paper (is this raw, shredded cardboard/paper or some other product?)
  • 0.6ml seaweed fertilizer
  • 0.6ml wilko yeast nutrients
  • 100 - 400g boiling water depending on desired moisture content
  • 4g pet food (optional)

Dissolve pet food into some of the boiling water.  Cover and let cool for 60 minutes.  Microwave on high for 88 seconds.

Combine remaining boiling water, fertilizer, yeast nutrients, and pet food slurry (if used) and stir to combine.

Add this mixture to the wood pellets and mix thoroughly with a fork or vegetable masher.

Cover with lid cracked open and microwave on high for 88 seconds.

Cover tightly and let cool for 2 hours.





Is that an accurate description of this method?

Also, I noticed that you mention pasteurization in the follow-up comments but it's not mentioned in the method.  How are you pasteurizing?

Finally, I'd like to make a request to the community ... PLEASE stop using unnecessary acrynyms ... SPF?  LPF?  really?  just use the words ... it's not that hard and makes your writing much easier to understand.

adadada

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: adadada]
    #23614382 - 09/05/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty much that's it adadada. The liquid version is for bulk where lower nitrate content may be needed.
Without the pet pellets there's no need to pasteurize when using paper pellets.

Wood pellets should become sawdust, paper or card almost the same.



The WL stands for Wood loving.

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Simple edition:

Add the additives to your measured water, add to pellets.
Mix very well, cook however you want.

Nothing complex, very easy.


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    #23614860 - 09/05/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: 0yster]
    #23614867 - 09/05/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Where can I find paper pellets? I would like to do some runs to collaborate with your findings.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23614881 - 09/05/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I got mine from a local pet shop, but I'm sure a general store would supply them.
Look in pet sections of shops, either pellets or a coarse blend.

Make sure its grey, not white, you want the soya ink.


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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Ferather]
    #23614952 - 09/05/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

ha, whats with this 0yster guy? backup account?

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Re: Plant Food and Yeast Nutrients, With dose guide [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23614987 - 09/05/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, I kinda ran out of image space on this account.
Didn't want to ruin any info for readers.

I forgot to change back lol.


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