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Kitch
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Re-Drying?
#23419666 - 07/07/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, shit. I have had a few real nice flushes over the last few weeks. Started with desiccant and then invested in a nice dehydrator and dried that way. All of these have come out cracker dry over the last few weeks.
Earlier I check on these guys and the majority of the stems are now soft-ish and not-so-cracker anymore. I put them in seal bags after drying.
Not really sure how to proceed from here. Would you throw all of them back on the dehydrator? How do I prevent this from happening again? Does this effect potency if I re-dry?
I live in a pretty humid climate..
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23419693 - 07/07/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, toss them in just until cracker dry again, won't hurt potency.
Best way to store them is vaccume sealed bags and inside a cardboard box, to keep away from light/humidity. They will stay cracker dry and potent for years this way. Even just in ziplock bags they be fine for long time, push out most the air in the bag, seal and store in cardboard box.
If you live in a humid environment they can leech the moisture from air back in the tissue quite quickly, just stored in bags that are not vaccume sealed. Putting them inside a dry cardboard box adds the extea protection from outside air.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23419695 - 07/07/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If they weren't completely cracker dry then y s it can affect potency and cause them to rot. I would imagine that they probably weren't CONPLETELY 100% cracker snap dry when you finished drying them, since this happened. Just make sure to leave them for extra time in the dehydrator, even after you take the biggest one and snap it, and make sure it snaps immediately when you start bending it. And it will likely snap into powder almost, when it's dry enough. But then, at that point I let them stay in a little longer, even to make sure.
Over drying won't hurt, but under drying will.
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Kitch
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It's strange because they did seem 100% cracker dry. I snapped a bunch of them.
But, thanks for the reply guys. Over-drying it is.
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Kitch
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23424370 - 07/08/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright. So I have had them in the dehydrator for 30 hours at 90 degrees and they're still not cracker dry (and I swear they were before). It has been an insanely hot/humid week here.
Has anyone else ever run into this issue? Is the really hot/humid weather possibly playing a factor?
fuck.
If I get these dry I am going to store them at a friends who has air conditioning..
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23424381 - 07/08/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kitch said: Alright. So I have had them in the dehydrator for 30 hours at 90 degrees and they're still not cracker dry (and I swear they were before). It has been an insanely hot/humid week here.
Has anyone else ever run into this issue? Is the really hot/humid weather possibly playing a factor?
fuck.
If I get these dry I am going to store them at a friends who has air conditioning..
The humid weather is working against you. The warm air you're pushing over the mushrooms is probably at the same level and can't take up any more moisture. Maybe try getting them as dry as you can and then seal them tight in a container with a good desiccant and hopefully you'll get them dried down some more.
Vacuum sealers are nice once dried but a luxury for most. Then you toss them in the fridge until you need them.
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Can't really go wrong storing airtight with desiccant after a full dehydrator run.
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Inocuole said: Can't really go wrong storing airtight with desiccant after a full dehydrator run.
OP needs their local weather to cooperate so they can get there.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23424418 - 07/08/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kitch said: Alright. So I have had them in the dehydrator for 30 hours at 90 degrees and they're still not cracker dry (and I swear they were before). It has been an insanely hot/humid week here.
Has anyone else ever run into this issue? Is the really hot/humid weather possibly playing a factor?
fuck.
If I get these dry I am going to store them at a friends who has air conditioning..
is that as high as your dehydrator goes? Human breath is 98 degrees... Crank that motherfucker up and get her done...
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Kitch
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23424453 - 07/08/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It goes from 90 to 165. Maybe I'll crank it higher…so much contrasting info on that though…It's unreal how many different comments there are on the temp thing on here..
And KeninVic, it has to be the weather…these things went from cracker to non-cracker. Fucking hell.
I guess I'm going to turn the dehydrator up a bit and then see what happens over the next day. Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23424506 - 07/08/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is no contrasting info, turn it up to 165 and quit reading the archives..
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LocN9ne
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Inocuole said: There is no contrasting info, turn it up to 165 and quit reading the archives..
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23425022 - 07/08/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Feel the heat! Do not hesitate.
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mupetmower
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Rofl, no wonder they won't get dry!
Yeah, we all use our dehydrators at 165ishF. Well, now you should be fine. I was finding it hard to believe it was so humid where you were that they wouldn't still get dry from a properly functioning dehydrator.
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Kitch
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(1) I experimented with desiccant chamber (left them in for 3+ days) and drying at 165 (before I got this new dehydrator). This was all done after fan-drying first. They were cracker dry. I snapped quite a few of them. The extreme heat and humidity in my house had to have done something to them..
(2) There is contrasting info all over this site. Maybe it is mostly archived, but it is confusing for someone like me trying to learn how to do everything properly. The search engine was used numerous times and I got a lot of conflicting results, so I decided to return original dehydrator and go with one with temp control. Maybe some of these old threads should be deleted to help people like me just starting out?
(3) Have a good day ya'll.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426376 - 07/09/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just don't read the old threads. A lot of them are good, not about to go on a deleting spree of people's opinions because some of us don't agree. You returned a dehydrator for nothing, ~160F is a pretty ideal drying temp. The temp difference between the dehydrator and ambient affects how much moisture below the relative humidity can be removed. Temp control dehydrators are great for... making jerky I guess.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426383 - 07/09/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Umm it really isn't all that difficult. You can filter searches to only give treads that are newer than 3 years or whatever you want. As well as only TC posts or pictures, ect
I hate when people use that excuse. It doesn't take more than 6th grade research skills to find what you need. People just don't want to take the time to do it. That's all it is.
There is a lot of outdated info out there, that's true. But it really isn't all that hard to sift thought it with the search filtering features. Also, there are lots and lots and LOTS of threads where people have asked the SAME EXACT QUESTIONS, which got answered 100 times over, which can also be found by searching.
So don't use that excuse, ok? Because no one here will have any sympathy for you.
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Kitch
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What would reading old threads have to do with contrasting info? Info is info? 
That's what a search function is for right?
I'm just saying there is conflicting info all over this site about the temp thing.
Either way I appreciate all the replies in this thread…These babies will be dry and life will be good.
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Inocuole
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426407 - 07/09/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Show me. Show me the conflicting info. I will destroy it.
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Kitch
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426414 - 07/09/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha. It's out there. If you really want me to find some, I will. I have to go now. Really not trying to start anything here.
People have been very helpful on here and I legitimately appreciate the help. Have a good day.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426421 - 07/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I actually do, I'm serious. If it's on the main site I will straight up delete it. If it's on the forums, so long as it doesn't require bumping years-old threads, I'll correct it there too. This is between me, and the source of your confusion, nothing personal against you. 
I was given access to delete shit on good faith that I'd use that power for good and not evil, so, consider this vigilante shit.
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mupetmower
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Because if you are reading OLD threads the info in them could very well be OUTDATED. Really not too hard to understand. Methods change. People learn. We all advance.
And if you are reading newer threads, then the info on them is more likely to not be OUTDATED, and if it is, then it is likely to be corrected by someone on said thread.
Or you could, you know, look at all the threads where people have asked the same exact questions, which were answered. Because if you actually do a search, you will find those threads.
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Kitch
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Alright MMower.
And Inocuole, there were a bunch of threads I came across. When I have time I will look for them and show you..
The questions were answered. But the answers were all over the place. Hence the confusion.
Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything here. I appreciate the help from the many that have given it on here.
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Re: Re-Drying? [Re: Kitch]
#23426580 - 07/09/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just don't like that excuse, is all.
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Did you try this?
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Mad Season said: Step 1: Use The Search Function (UTSF)

Lots of people complain the search function sucks, and gives outdated info. Try clicking the 2 pics above this!
TCs from the last 2 years all should be saying the same thing that dehydrators are the shit, and to have it going on max
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Quote:
Mad Season said: Did you try this?
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Mad Season said: Step 1: Use The Search Function (UTSF)

Lots of people complain the search function sucks, and gives outdated info. Try clicking the 2 pics above this!
TCs from the last 2 years all should be saying the same thing that dehydrators are the shit, and to have it going on max
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the search engine sucks though, answers are scattered all over the place

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=dehydrator+setting&newerval=2&newertype=y&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&expert=1&sort=r&way=d
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