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mycoic
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Overlay in uncased mono
#23419331 - 07/07/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, is it possible to deal with overlay in an uncased monotub? Ive read itll still pin with overlay but slower.
Theres no contam in the tub, has been in fruiting for about 1.5 weeks with no pins yet but plenty of knots.
So would it be worth lightly removing overlay and casing with straight verm? Or do whats generally advised and stay the f away from the tub lol
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Inocuole
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23419344 - 07/07/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't have overlay. Would love to see whatever it is you're wanting to remove. You'd win the lottery before you got overlay with uncased cubes.
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23419345 - 07/07/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You don't have overlay.
If you have knots, then you need to be patient for another day or two for pins to show up. Fucking with a monotub is pretty much never a good idea.
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23419347 - 07/07/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I highly doubt it's overlay, pics would be nice tho
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23420107 - 07/07/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I highly doubt that you have overlay. Of course pictures would clear up most speculation. Sounds more like you have too little patience. Do a search on overlay and you will find that Cubes pretty much NEVER have overlay. Good luck and if your sub is as knotted as you describe then you should be seeing pins soon.
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He might have overlay if he was doing pans in an uncased mono
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23420296 - 07/07/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks, hybridprx.  now everyone has overlay again!
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: dankington]
#23420301 - 07/07/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get a file and file the entire surface of it to remove that overlay. 
No you don't have it lol
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: dankington]
#23420305 - 07/07/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do people manage to find the absolute most old garbage cultivation info when all we try to do is put the good info in good places
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: bodhisatta]
#23420318 - 07/07/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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it only takes a couple of morons to mention a couple of key phrases. then noobs look it up. scared to death of bacteria, they look to other possibilities. Just a working theory
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mycoic
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: dankington]
#23420955 - 07/07/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies,
I had read a lot of threads saying the same thing, but this stuff is quite rubbery dense matting over the sub, there's yellow bruising from the tub not being dialled in and then subsequently dried out, upon which a terrible misterused a initially and it soaked them..
Since then and now, FAE increased to let the excess evaporate; with a fine mist rehydrating the top and walls every 1-2 hours or until it's barely glistening. At night the Polyfill is repacked, and surface checked for hydration and then let to do it's own humidity thing.
this is the dense rubbery matting:
Edited by mycoic (08/21/16 01:44 AM)
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23420972 - 07/07/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mycelium has dried out a bit, the conditions aren't dialed in correctly. Definitely not overlay, just means you need to mist more or tighten polyfill or something.
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mycoic
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: Inocuole]
#23421079 - 07/07/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: The mycelium has dried out a bit, the conditions aren't dialed in correctly. Definitely not overlay, just means you need to mist more or tighten polyfill or something.
oh thank you so whats the best recommendation? re tighten polypill and mist more and reduce fans in the room?
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23421097 - 07/07/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So people know what overlay actually looks like in a species prone to it.
Overlay with pan cyan

Note the fact that nothing is dried out, it's just super dense mycelium. See the pins struggling up in the second pic. You can tear the whole top layer of casing off like a dense mat but it's not rubbery.
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mycoic
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23421132 - 07/07/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: So people know what overlay actually looks like in a species prone to it.
Overlay with pan cyan

Note the fact that nothing is dried out, it's just super dense mycelium. See the pins struggling up in the second pic. You can tear the whole top layer of casing off like a dense mat but it's not rubbery.
Thanks for that 100% clears things up haha,
So plan is to not case it (I don't want to introduce a possible another factor of contam) I'll mist more frequently and retighten everything and drop fans down I think, might go the tin foil method for controlling the RH at first.
I'll keep this updated for those who are in similar situations =)
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23428411 - 07/10/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wooooo first pins!!
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23428697 - 07/10/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lets see those pics
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mycoic
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Will upload soon theyre looking awfully healthy i think haha. The patches that were much more hydrated than others are the only ones to pin atm. So i think that was the issue!
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mycoic
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Re: Overlay in uncased mono [Re: mycoic]
#23432318 - 07/11/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kk mate will upload photos soon, however he has only say 9-10 pins on the outer edge and no where else. Ive read its caused by the conditions being much better there than the rest; but do you let the pins grow properly and then pick or early pick them for the rest to develop?
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