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Bigbadwooof
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23417637 - 07/06/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: I would only use poo for Pan. Cyanescens. You can get the same yields from coir. I don't know what you mean about firmer sub either, because coir has a whole bunch of thick hard strands in it that hold it together for me... Poo tends to be musher ime. I suppose it is preference.
I know it helps, but I don't think you need poo for Pan Cyans. Going to try some on CVG soon with a mini and see what happens. Live in the city and don't want to travel far for hpoo.
Impressive tamp grow, bro. You're a very skilled cultivator. How are tamp fruits compared to cubes? And how are the stones?
Well thank you, friend . You wouldn't probably be saying that if I posted my failures over the years lmao! I have it pretty locked down now though.
I didn't eat any of the Tampanensis. I gave them away. However, I was told they were on par with Penis Envy. About the same from what I have been told. The yield was only a couple ounces, if I remember correctly. The stones are supposedly much weaker than the fruits. I had baseball sized stones in the bulk sub on that one, but I threw them away 
If you're going to grow Pans without poo, I would suggest going with either straw or cased grains over coir. Just throwing that out there
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23417650 - 07/06/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those are from my Tampanensis grow. Might as well throw those pics up again, since it came up 
Those are badass bruv!
Just love how they're standing up straight, my ATLs' never do that haha, they just twist and tumble down
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stareatclouds
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23417655 - 07/06/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'll toss in some straw for sure since I have some chopped finely on hand. Also I thought the tamp stones were the sought after ones, famed Philosopher's Stones. I ate some ATL7 stones the other night and loved them. Much more clarity with the trip and a great body high like MDMA.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23417664 - 07/06/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Yeah, I'll toss in some straw for sure since I have some chopped finely on hand. Also I thought the tamp stones were the sought after ones, famed Philosopher's Stones. I ate some ATL7 stones the other night and loved them. Much more clarity with the trip and a great body high like MDMA.
I think Tamp stones are the strongest, and ATL7 are the largest. I am quite sure ATL7 produces way more stones than Tampanensis. I could certainly be wrong about the potency though. I gave some away, I'll have to ask what the guy thought of them. They had been sitting in the jar for like 8 months (seemed gross to me lol). I gave him the whole jar and told him to do his thing w/ it. He took out the stones, and I believe he spawned the rest also, and fruited them.
By the way, they say the longer you let the stones sit, the stronger they are. The problem is, the grains start to dry out over time. I think 6 months is max potency.
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Edited by Bigbadwooof (07/06/16 04:59 PM)
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23417699 - 07/06/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I ate these after 30 days. We split them up into 4 people probably did like 10-15g each, ballparking. Enjoyable trip, but nothing really strong.
  
They came from this super old plate, probably initially inoculated a year prior. I pulled it out of the fridge and it sat around for a month at room temperature before I turned it into an LI.

I'm going to get some Tamp jars going soon and leave them for a while.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23417787 - 07/06/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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15g fresh requires rue extract. The trip quality is beyond anything I've had from cubes or the bit of ATL I sampled.
3.3g dry Tamp fruit - Lemon Tek was pretty well a heroic dose
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Snazz]
#23417897 - 07/06/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snazz said: 15g fresh requires rue extract. The trip quality is beyond anything I've had from cubes or the bit of ATL I sampled.
3.3g dry Tamp fruit - Lemon Tek was pretty well a ton heroic dose
You take 15 g fresh tampanensis stones with Rue extract? Does Syrian Rue increase potency of mushrooms? I don't generally fuck with MAOI's. I might for a little DMT trip, maybe.
If I still had some Tampanensis prints I'd pass them around to you guys. Maybe it's time for another Tampanensis grow ... They just don't produce like cubes, so I stopped growing them. I gave them away dry, so they weren't max potency. From what I understand, 2g dry was a pretty strong trip. Maybe like an 8th of normal cubes?
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23418036 - 07/06/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I gave away 6 or 7 prints in June. Will be more grow log showing up soon :p
Rue extract temporarily blocks the enzyme that breaks down psilocin and it's quite a closed-eye hallucinogen in its own right. Also not scary as pharmaceutical MAOIs. Limitations are small. Reversible 5h effect that doesn't destroy the enzyme, unlike pills.
Tempted to try it with a few grams of Tamp. Takes like 50 dried fruits/g. so I don't get to test much with them.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Snazz]
#23418124 - 07/06/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you saying it allows the psilocin to stay in longer or stronger or what? I know the liver converts psilocybin to psilocin very rapidly, so what does blocking the breaking down of it do exactly?
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Bigbadwooof
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23418144 - 07/06/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Are you saying it allows the psilocin to stay in longer or stronger or what? I know the liver converts psilocybin to psilocin very rapidly, so what does blocking the breaking down of it do exactly?
It seems like it would make it last longer, not be a stronger trip.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23418153 - 07/06/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well if a higher % of the psilocin remains, I could see it being stronger as well. But I'm not sure the rate your tolerance builds is directly related to % of psilocin or something else. I think I'm fine with just regular fruits though.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23418198 - 07/06/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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GT, about 4 hours late for its photo op. I regret the flash immensely.

Look it the purple of the spores. I think that's cool as fuck. Pf cake.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23418214 - 07/06/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: Are you saying it allows the psilocin to stay in longer or stronger or what? I know the liver converts psilocybin to psilocin very rapidly, so what does blocking the breaking down of it do exactly?
Extends the trip a little, but the Rue lasts about 5 hours. Then your enzymes get back to work.
It potentiates a lot(Dosage Calc) A little under 2x strength, although it's not quite the same trip as 2x weight
Edited by Snazz (07/06/16 08:10 PM)
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Adden]
#23418302 - 07/06/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Adden said: GT, about 4 hours late for its photo op. I regret the flash immensely.

Look it the purple of the spores. I think that's cool as fuck. Pf cake.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23418318 - 07/06/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not sure if this helps explain it any better but if it helps anyone understand 
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someguyonline said: Harm(al)ine is a mild, short-acting monoamine oxidase (mao) inhibitor. mao is the family of enzymes in the body that's responsible for breaking down simple duration including most (all?) psychedelics. in the brain mao is responsible for converting used seretonin into inactive metabolites. seretonin is almost identical in structure to psilocin and dmt. so when you take shrooms or acid with harm(al)ine, not only do you absorb more of it (because it isn't broken down in the digestive system as much), but it sticks around longer in the synapses - meaning the trip is more intense. in theory this should also extend the duration
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23418329 - 07/06/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those are from my Tampanensis grow. Might as well throw those pics up again, since it came up 
hats off to you! I have a culture that can do this, but have never gone above 1 qt spawn. I am simply inspired now! I will do a full tamp mono!
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stareatclouds
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lukehighwalker710 said: Not sure if this helps explain it any better but if it helps anyone understand 
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someguyonline said: Harm(al)ine is a mild, short-acting monoamine oxidase (mao) inhibitor. mao is the family of enzymes in the body that's responsible for breaking down simple duration including most (all?) psychedelics. in the brain mao is responsible for converting used seretonin into inactive metabolites. seretonin is almost identical in structure to psilocin and dmt. so when you take shrooms or acid with harm(al)ine, not only do you absorb more of it (because it isn't broken down in the digestive system as much), but it sticks around longer in the synapses - meaning the trip is more intense. in theory this should also extend the duration
Okay, cool. That's basically what I was thinking, both duration and strength. Interesting.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Munchauzen]
#23418354 - 07/06/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya, as far as I can tell, it gives you the full dose. Not whatever makes it past your liver. Have to be careful with MDMA (can trigger serotonin toxicity) caffeine in lower amounts, alcohol and foods with cultures mainly.
Don't judge by Rx MAOI lists, cuz they work differently
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Snazz]
#23418360 - 07/06/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think I'll ever use a MAOI since I can just up my dose for a stronger trip. I already know what dried cubes can give me so it's a reliable scale. Cool information though.
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: stareatclouds]
#23418372 - 07/06/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I don't think I'll ever use a MAOI since I can just up my dose for a stronger trip. I already know what dried cubes can give me so it's a reliable scale. Cool information though.
While it does make it a stronger trip, I also think it changes the experience a little. Might be something you'd find worth trying
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