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OfflinePsilosoulful

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Glass vapor genie smoking techniques
    #23418247 - 07/06/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was curious to know for all those that own a glass vapor genie how they go about using it to vaporize pure dmt crystals.
I will be investing in this piece when I get paid this Friday.
I heard it's well worth the investment and I'm tired of wasting all my precious spice with inferior methods.

I was thinking of getting extra stainless steel screens, stacking 5-6 of them in the pipe, then lightly hovering the flame above the bowl to melt the DMT into the screens, then inhaling harder to get a dense vapor. Is that a good technique?
I don't want to mix it with any other herbs. I want a pure DMT experience.

Also, do you think a torch lighter is completely necessary, won't it burn the ceramic filter at the top of the pipe?


And finally, if you have any good changa recipes you like to use, I'd love to hear it! :smile:

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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23418691 - 07/06/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This will be my first post on a new account... My anonymity was broken by another user... How? I am not sure... (Thank God for VPN's... hehe)


Do you have experience with using glass vaporizers with this specific thickness?

In regards to your question about the 5-6 screens. I don't think it is 'completely' necessary, but it might help.

I usually stray away from metal when it comes to dimethyltryptamine...

With DMT - it's all about speed of inhalation and heat level/volume of tryptamine inhalation.

Are you working with a small amount of DMT or do you have a larger supply?

:smile:    Happy breakthrough!

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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: morty422]
    #23418718 - 07/06/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking of starting with around 35mg, it should be enough for a strong experience.
My other trips weren't really trips. I feel like I burnt through most of my DMT supply, which is really sad.
I've only got to experience sub-threshold effects/ light rippling on surfaces/ body load/ etc.
By getting this vape, I hope to effectively breakthrough when I'm ready.

The stacked screen method was one that I read about on the nexus.
Seems like a good idea, I'm gonna have to try it out either way.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23418782 - 07/06/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The stacked screen method will increase surface area as it moves through the different obstacles - allowing more heat to penetrate the smaller volumes of DMT as it travels down the rabbit hole of screens.

The more time it takes - the faster it will run away from you.

I think this device will most definitely give you the best of luck. Thicker glass will give you more submersive (for lack of a better word) heat.

It will heat the molecule much more evenly than say a thin glass piece would.

35mg is a good starting point. Fine tune this approach and then move forward. Don't feel bad if you waste a dose or two. You're using a new piece and you are only human!

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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: morty422]
    #23419342 - 07/07/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I will try the 5 screen method and I'll also try putting the spice on a thin layer of non-psychoactive herbs to see which one is more effective.
It will take a bit of practice, but I'm sure I can get it right. I'll be buying the pipe tomorrow morning :woot:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23419458 - 07/07/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: lotzbetter]
    #23419584 - 07/07/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Anybody care to share their changa recipes? :tongue2:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful] * 1
    #23430091 - 07/10/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE:

My glass vapor genie is on its way. I was also able to pick up a steel coil concentrate pad made specifically for the vapor genie.



Hopefully, the DMT melts right into it with no problems and I can take a 30mg dose all in one hit.
I'll finally be able to blast off into hyperspace! :woot:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23430734 - 07/10/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:um: Anybody out there?


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23430817 - 07/10/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Looks good to me. Should work better than using several screens.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: healing]
    #23431406 - 07/11/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I got extra screens just in case. But, it should definitely work.
Soo tired of wasting precious DMT, now I can finally enjoy this amazing substance.

I'll be taking my first trip alone, hopefully I'll be able to put the pipe down before blasting off.
I heard it's good to have someone there just in case you pass out and drop the pipe.

It would really suck to break this piece, it was 120$ :whoah:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23431761 - 07/11/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That concentrate pad looks pretty good. I use the same thing when vaping DMT out of the volcano.

Do it in your bed or on a carpeted floor if you're worried about dropping it.

Might also consider dosing more at once if you want to really be satisfied. 35mg should be enough for someone to breakthrough in the right mindset and proper technique, but those can take practice. If you put 60mg in there, your technique may not be perfect but you'll probably still get 35mg worth inhaled.

Take large hits and try to hold at least 15 seconds each.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Icon]
    #23432290 - 07/11/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was worried about the concentrate pad being a little bit on the thick side.
I don't know if it would be easily vaped all in one hit, but I guess i'll have to find out.

Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely be dosing up while sitting crossed legged on my bed.
I have about 200mg left, so I can afford to put a little bit more in the pipe.
I just need one good breakthrough experience and I'll be happy. :smile:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23442039 - 07/14/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Here it is...the Vaporgenie!! :rockon:



Here's a comparison of the thickness of the steel mesh concentrate pad I got with it and 5 screens stacked together.


Which method should I try first. I can take pulls a LOT easier with just the screens in.
Hopefully the spice won't melt all the way through and get stuck in the glass.
But, with the concentrate pad, I wonder if I'll get any vapor at all, it's soo thick :shrug:

I'm just trying to blast off tonight, but I'm leaning towards the screen method, it seems more practical.
Let me know what you guys think! :cheers:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23446532 - 07/16/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I tried the screen method and it seemed to work well, no spice was able to get into the actual pipe.
Also, I was using a small torch lighter. I've read that these are the best to use for the vaporgenie.

Do you guys just use a regular bic lighter?
It says on the vaporgenie website that it'll clog up the ceramic filter over time. :shrug:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23447465 - 07/16/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The steel concentrate pad is garbage. It's simply too thickly interwoven to allow vapor to be pulled through. The dmt just melts and collects around the pad and in the vapor genie.

My best dmt hit using the GVG was when I paired it with a bunched up copper chore boy, which at one point was the preferred method on this site. I also purchased a couple of ceramic disks (also talked about on here and dmt nexus, Google it) but I didn't have great luck with those. To be fair, I only tried once or twice and these things take practice.

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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: icecap]
    #23447484 - 07/16/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I thought stainless steel was recommemded over copper, being as that it could leach harmful chemicals into your spice?

And I might just try cutting the steel concentrate pad in half to see if that would make it easier to pull vapor through.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23484560 - 07/28/16 04:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, my pipe is the bonb! The vapor is super smooth and I can take big hits.
Still haven't blasted off, but that's because I've been salvaging the spice that I have left until I can get more.

On another note, I had a question about the type of lighter I should be using.
The site says to use a normal candle flame lighter, but not a torch lighter because the flame is too hot and might damage the ceramic heating element.

However, I've heard on the nexus that the torch lighter is exactly what you should be using.
I'm confused over which one is more effective/safe to use. What is your experience with various lighters?


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23484562 - 07/28/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Regular bic is MORE than hot enough.  DMT vaporizes at a shockingly low temperature.  The greater sin is to use too much heat.  Not only will you scorch the molecule, you'll inhale unnecessarily hot vapor.

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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23484700 - 07/28/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay cool, I just read around that the torch lighter with the blue flame was more effective,
but if I don't have to go out and waste money on that, I'll gladly stick with the cheap lighters.

Here's the link to the user guide about the GVG on the Nexus.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23485568 - 07/28/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

While a bic flame is enough temperature, the theory with the torch lighters is that they create enough ambient heat around the torch to vape your dmt without any contact with the flame. I don't think you're supposed to torch the ceramic directly, just have the torch near the bowl as you inhale.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Icon]
    #23488158 - 07/29/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I tried doing that with the torch lighters, and even then, the base of the pipe seems to get wayy hotter than just using a candle flame lighter and keeping the flame halfway in the bowl while inhaling.
I've had super strong experiences off just 15mg, as opposed to 30mg with the torch lighter.

These are the type of lighters that I'm talking about :thumbup:


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23489245 - 07/29/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You guys pull the flame into the top of the GVG a little bit right?

Or are you really supposed to keep the flame hovering above the top and not let it go inside at all?

I usually pull the flame like a half-inch in or something while I inhale continuously. Do you think that would damage the ceramic? It's not technically touching the actual ceramic part.


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23492081 - 07/30/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

With the candle flame lighter, it's necessary to keep the flame over the bowl,
and inhale harder or slower depending on how big of a hit you want.

As I inhale slow, the flame hovers around the top edge and the spice melts into the mesh,
then as the bowl begins to fill with vapor, I pull harder and the flame reaches almost 3/4ths a way into the bowl.
After the bowl is filled with vapor and the spice is gone, I clear it all in one hit and bam!!!

But, from what I've read, the ceramic element is very durable and will not be ruined even if the flame touches it directly.
The only way to damage it is to use one of those large butane torches and angle it directly at the ceramic at the highest setting.
Other than that, it should last a long, long time. Vapor genie is the best!!


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Re: Glass vapor genie smoking techniques [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23492341 - 07/30/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds good. :cool: Thanks:thumbup:


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