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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23422231 - 07/08/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i wouldnt be able to get jimson weed... But i could get a caffeine supplement,  that sounds like a good idea actually.  Like 3 5 hour energies and drink them real fast lol or some caffeine pills. I will have to look into it and see what dose would work best to give me anxiety and force this bad trip on myself. Thanks for the negative ideas, its kinda interesting to see how much help im getting! First and foremost i want to make sure that i dont do any deadly kind of combination, and i dont wanna have to get different stuff (maybe if all i need is an amp i should take doc or doi or dob lol) that i dont have already, just to make it easier, dont wanna be making a one time drug purchase for something im not too familiar with, just safety. Anyway, ill stay awake on it and think.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422249 - 07/08/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know. Ive smoked meth on 25i-nbome and had a pretty nice trip. And 25i-nbome is the most anxious psychedelic Ive ever tried, no matter what dose. Its just its nature. Now it did make me act crazy and possibly made people around me have a bad time but Meth with the most anxious psychedelic I can think of didn't do anything except make me trip a lot harder and stimulate the fuck out of me to the point where I was jumping around like a monkey for hours.

Im not saying it couldn't work for you though. Cause everyones different. Honestly you may need to actually try combining a few of the more overall anxiety driven psychedelics. That also may not be a good idea though because 25i-nbome is dangerous. Its the only nbome compound I probably wouldn't try again even though they are all dangerous purely because it makes me soooo anxious and also  the body load is just a headache that feels like you've been kicked in the head by an elephant. In my experience 2c-e is awesome but it and 25i-nbome are the 2 psychedelics Ive seen people have bad trips on the most. Shrooms would come next I think but I think that's only because they very in potency and people tend to take doses they cant handle thinking it wil be much more mild


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422323 - 07/08/16 03:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah i wouldnt be able to get jimson weed... But i could get a caffeine supplement,  that sounds like a good idea actually.  Like 3 5 hour energies and drink them real fast lol or some caffeine pills. I will have to look into it and see what dose would work best to give me anxiety and force this bad trip on myself. Thanks for the negative ideas, its kinda interesting to see how much help im getting! First and foremost i want to make sure that i dont do any deadly kind of combination, and i dont wanna have to get different stuff (maybe if all i need is an amp i should take doc or doi or dob lol) that i dont have already, just to make it easier, dont wanna be making a one time drug purchase for something im not too familiar with, just safety. Anyway, ill stay awake on it and think.




Try out how much caffeine you have to take until it feels uncomfortable and then double that dose. Wait 3 - 4 days for your caffeine tolerance to go down before trying the combination. Bonus points if you do this while sleep deprived for maximum delirium

It also doesnt necessarily have to be jimson weed. It can be anything that contains atropine, scopolamine or hyoscyamine really. Problem is that all three are pretty deadly if you cant dose precisely. They are the safest bet tho for having a bad trip


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23422339 - 07/08/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also I wouldn't consider powdered HBWR seeds (not extracted) to be a bad trip in the classic sense but they are very unpleasant physically while tripping. LSA on its own is great. LSA not extracted from the seeds with the cyanide still in them is horrible feeling but still not mentally bad in any way. Add cigs to the mix If you want to feel even more poisoned.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: trvptamine]
    #23422403 - 07/08/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Drink some ipicac as you're peaking on a high dose of lsd/mushrooms. Also eat some spicy peppers beforehand... that should send anyone to a negative place haha.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23422415 - 07/08/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If i remember correctly LSD also acts as a pain killer so eating the peppers wont do much


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23422416 - 07/08/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno man, profusely vomiting hot pepper bile would suck in any state of mind haha.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23422467 - 07/08/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well its not that bad if you cant feel the burn from the pepper :shrug:


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23422505 - 07/08/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

True, you may be right about lsd killing pain. I've always been able to feel pain  or have overly sensitive taste buds while tripping on it. I've cut myself pretty bad on it once and it actually felt way more painful than if I was sober... I love eating during the come down, just light snacking on fruit or something.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23422511 - 07/08/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe im wrong ...

Only one way to find out:thumbup:


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23422538 - 07/08/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Haha time to test this out. I could see it distracting your thoughts from injuries until you pay attention to it again. I took mushrooms with a broken wrist and it really helped me not notice the pain or cast until I knocked it against something or moved it a certain way.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23422552 - 07/08/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Night one of sleep deprivation is done.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422557 - 07/08/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You should fast the day before tripping too.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23422648 - 07/08/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I usually fast anyway but starvation fasting could be in order


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422659 - 07/08/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, just drink water the day before your trip and nothing with flavor or sustenance haha.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422692 - 07/08/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:wave: Hi Mike! As someone who has had a couple of pretty 'full on' bad trips I don't know why anyone would want to experience one. It can leave you never the same after and that can be good or bad, it's all personal but for me it was 'extreme mental anguish and pain'. Why anybody would want to subject themselves to hours of mental torture I don't know. I know how you are though so I'm not here to tell you don't do it.. just I look forward to your trip report as always and stay safe. :cool::thumbup:

TBH I don't think you can have one, I don't think you will be able to induce one no matter what. It's just 'you' and there's nothing else I can add to defend that. Yeah anyway, trip report! And stay safe so I can read more! :heart:


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23422696 - 07/08/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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A few days ago, i tried ayahuasca, which contained a few extra chemicals (rue/caapi, dpt, nn dmt, shrooms, 5meo dmt, DiPT)

I had a wonderful time. My friend E, stated that he felt a little anxiety (i was really chilled, reclined and seemed really calm to him, he thought at first he was supposed to be calm like me, then eventually eased into his trip and had a great time (almost took a trip killer [haloperidol] but decided to wait) he was really glad he didnt take it as he had a great time after his peak.

So my question is, what makes a bad trip?

Ive had plenty of trips in very high doses, some of which some of you guys are calling insanely high, and ones some people wouldn't get close to.

How can i have a bad trip? I feel like every one of my trips are very positive and uplifting, then i read a horror story here and there about having a bad trip.

Please dont take me the wrong way. I sincerely wish to experience EVERY side of psychedelics. I WANT to experience a bad trip. Maybe if i do, i could figure out somethings to help others not experience a bad trip.

What do i need to do to experience the dark side of psychedelics?




So you want a Bad Trip? Interesting concept,:strokebeard:
As we all Know Set & Setting has Alot to do with the Flow of a Trip.
My worst Trip Id have to say is being in a place like the Mall, Go sit in the Cafe Area during a Rush of people, I.E. Lunch, Dinner Rush & the Sensory Overload with Machines & people All talking @ Once, This becomes Confusing and almost a Madding Experience. :trippnballs:

Also yeah having a negative outlook on Life.
Loosing a loved one really hasnt sent me into a bad trip considering, in the Last Year I've attended 2 funerals, One being My Mother & My Grandfather" which I actually Dosed for his Funeral" was Beautiful.

This is an interesting experiment, Id really like to see how you achieve this and what your personal experience is from this. Keep Us Posted!:hahyeahwoo::seriousthumbsup:


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: superbob57]
    #23422785 - 07/08/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bro this is gonna backfire on you miserably. All these preparations (sleep dep, starvation, enforced agitation) and mood altering affects you're trying to bring to the table before and during your trip, is only going to make the trip that much better. It sounds much like a shamans preparation to a truly blissful and euphoric trip. The more you're giving to the trip, the more it will love you back. It's our psyche bro, at this state in your life, a bad trip can not be self induced. I promise you.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23422794 - 07/08/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What if we let him take everything and then bury him alive in a coffin for as long as the air will last? Then dig him up before he runs out air.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Starstepper]
    #23422852 - 07/08/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i have extreme anxiety. i have not even ever been able to trip, i take it slow because i know i will have a bad trip if i don't get myself used to it. every now and then i take a shroom or two for a little high and seriously even at those low dosages i can start to have a panic attack. it always feels nice to me but sometimes it's to much for me. i am a person that is very used to concentrating on things and when i take them i have such a rush of thoughts and feelings in me that i feel overwhelmed and that overwhelming feeling scares me because i need to be aware and make the right decisions. i guess what i really need is a place to seriously relax like out camping.


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