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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: qman] * 1
    #23417825 - 07/06/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Confidence is so important while tripping. Not so much as the ego but the knowledge you have with what you're experiencing.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23417863 - 07/06/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed with my recent experiments with 4-ho-met, my first few times I had the expectations of a strong trip since I took such large doses. I would always be met with a horrible excruciating come up that has me balled up on the floor or couch for 30-45 minutes wondering if I'm having some kind of weird reaction and dying. Then the trip hits and that horrible come up feeling goes away, but the trip feels dull and underwhelming in comparison to the comeup.

Lately I've taken doses of 4-ho-met, and have the mindset that its not even going to work due to tolerance or due to it being a weak psychedelic to me... in those cases I get no sort of come up feeling at all and figure "I was right, didn't do shit", then I go to the bathroom or something and notice my pupils are bugged out and then I start noticing the visual effects.

Interesting stuff. Glad I figured out how to tame those come ups. They were the worst I've ever experienced.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: GPryder]
    #23417968 - 07/06/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Get almost blacked out drunk and then take 5g or more of dried mushrooms. It won't be fun.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: openmind]
    #23418161 - 07/06/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Just curious....About how old are you 4aco?...and how long have you been working with psychedelics?



I started using lsd when i was 16-17 and i am now 30.

I went to a family gathering a fee weeks ago, my friend gave some guy some mushrooms, and i think he was already tripping on acid. At the after party, they passed a bowl of dmt.

As they did that i rolled like, 9-10 blunts and began to pass them around. As the blunts got to this one guy, he held it and just hit it without passing it and started saying what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what happened what happened.

Thats the kind of bad trip i want to do to myself to experience what a bad trip is. I think that if i was to experience that kind of trip, i would come out of it with some ideas for how to stop it and change the direction of the trip, and maybe be able to help other psychonaughts in their travels


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Starstepper]
    #23418168 - 07/06/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Get almost blacked out drunk and then take 5g or more of dried mushrooms. It won't be fun.




That might be interesting except that if i drink to much i could die haha i drink 3 beers and im trashed, i absolutely cannot drink alcohol. I might try it with dmt, ive read that dmt entities get angry if you are drunk


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23418182 - 07/06/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow i'd say your very lucky. Bad trips are pretty much as horrible an experience as you can ever have in my estimation. I respect you wanting to see all the angles but you don't want that. Stick with keeping your mind healthy, no reason to introduce negativity in your mind.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: west coast hunt]
    #23418233 - 07/06/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was about three hours in on four geltabs of LSD when I found out my mom passed away. No bad trip came from that, even though before hand I thought that would be the worst thing to possibly happen during a trip.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23418345 - 07/06/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Get almost blacked out drunk and then take 5g or more of dried mushrooms. It won't be fun.




That might be interesting except that if i drink to much i could die haha i drink 3 beers and im trashed, i absolutely cannot drink alcohol. I might try it with dmt, ive read that dmt entities get angry if you are drunk




For me that's the only time I have ever had a bad trip. It feels like the alcohol reinforces my ego and it won't allow me to let go. Almost like a battle inside my head. Or I feel like I finally did it to myself,  lost my mind and am in some sort of mental hospital where everyone is trying to help me get back to reality. In the end it is my subconscious, ego, whatever you want to call it in this case just not allowing me to let go.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Starstepper]
    #23418388 - 07/06/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So op, you gunna do the sleep dep thing or get drunk? Either way shud let us know how it goes.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23418394 - 07/06/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have a friend that always drinks before and during trips. I told him I didn't think it was a good idea but he seems to enjoy it.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: GPryder] * 1
    #23418418 - 07/06/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My buddy E does that, if you ever read a tr by me and it references E, hes probably had a few beers!

I will have to try both. Ive trippe 3 times in the last few days so i want to wait a bit to make sure i trip hard. I want to be able to do this to myself, and actually trip. Im not sure i can have a bad trip, so im going to take all of this (bad) advice to heart and do my best to actually create a bad mind set and see what happens. I got a few days before i can trip, so if anyone else has any ideas feel free to share. I appreciate the ideas, and bad trip stories so i can get a feel for what feeling i want to put in my mind for me to get to this "bad" level. Ive been talking about a reality prism, which we access by using psychedelics, maybe i can find a negative reality prism as well and see what its like.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23418439 - 07/06/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I need a better selection of substances so I can trip more often. What doesn't have a cross tolerance with 4-ho-met, shrooms, or lsd?


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: GPryder]
    #23418460 - 07/06/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dmt i would think, DiPT maybe, any 2cx for certain,  i used to trip 4 times a week, 2cx, shrooms, lsd, 2cy (as in a different 2cx) mescaline analogue would make it 5 days if i added allylescaline. Dox would probably have a different tolerance too. 4acodmt is amazing stuff i see it in your sig, its amazing (to me, my friend said it was too strong and bad tasting haha


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23418480 - 07/06/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The 4-ho-met is terrible tasting and seems weak to me even taking heroic 120+mg doses. I think 4-ACO-DMT might be more up my alley.

Aren't the 2C's all gone/outlawed? Im in the United States.

I've been looking for DMT for about 8 years now and still haven't been fortunate enough to get any. Tried making some and failed miserably.

My only option right now is still I can order on the clearnet from domestic sources.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: GPryder]
    #23418487 - 07/06/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am in the us and have every single 2cx except 2cb. I have never used a vendor either though


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23418495 - 07/06/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You will not have a bad trip next time you trip.    There are no real negatives in  your life right now ... But please keep tripping it will hit you when you least expect it.....


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: Kinko]
    #23418516 - 07/06/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bad trips are the best trips in my opinion. They are the truly life changing trips. Nothing like having the universe pound a message that you've needed to hear for a long time into your head again and again and again and again and again and again.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: trvptamine]
    #23418542 - 07/06/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Marijuana is only thing that has caused a bad trip for me. Twice actually. Weed induced panic attacks are not fun when your peaking.


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23418568 - 07/06/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

^^thats an interesting one. For me, smoking pot while tripping severely diminishes the effects of the trip. Happened so much that I don't even think about smoking weed during a trip anymore.. afterwords though, I'm a chimney lol


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Re: What causes a bad trip? [Re: trvptamine]
    #23418576 - 07/06/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No negatives...

I owe my weed guy 7300$. Ive been trying to quit my job for 2 months. When i finally did quit, another employee just up and left to texas and called later that day saying hed be back, called tuesday bullshitted again. And look whos back at that job?

I spent 1400 on an acre of land and they wont let me live on it where i could start farming marijuana last year.

I dont own a car and owe my weed dude 7300.

I had a really really good friend who i cooked ayahuasca for rob me of two pounds of weed. His roommate drank ayahuasca with us and stole an oz of weed, i saw him every day for a month but he never answered his phone, combined they owe me over 3500.

Ive been paying that debt with my paycheck money. Guess who now has nothing saved up?
I got another guy who owes me 3300, idk when he will pay me as his "phone is broken " but i gotta pay that outta pocket. Cant grow mushies where i live even though i have a bunch of spores. Cant go to fests and kick it with some shroomerites even though i had b33n planning on it for a month because this dude i used to work with at a job i quit left and so i had to go back.

Cant make any money when i sell my weed cause a few cheap bastards refuse to pay me more than a +200$ mark up on what i spent ev3n though it costs me $500 to transport back home. My parents are trying to move cause they're ancient and thwir human bodies are failing them, my dad will probably die within the next 5 years. I havent had a significant relationship with a member of thw opposite sex for almost a decade, even though they all say wow youre such an awesome person and you have such respect for people blah blah oh youre feiend zoned by the way. Dont have money to move cause i got robbed for a few pounds as i mentioned earlier, so i have sold about 50 pounds of weed in the last 3-4 months at a loss of about 6000$

I put 10 grams of wax in the washer with my clothes. Didnt find it till after i dried everything.

You're right bro, theres not too much negative going on with me right now, i really need to work on putting myself in a negative mindset


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