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viktor
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23427436 - 07/09/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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millzy said: i don't think the media is as much of the problem as the government. the government lied about iraq. the government continues to lie about the drug war and who knows what else. sure, there are dishonest media outlets. but as a whole, when we're talking about disinformation, we're talking about government because that's who creates it.
And who spreads it?
Who fed us the government-approved bullshit about iraq and the drug war?
And who believes it?
Who sits back and goes "Herpaderp, this herp is being derped by an AUTHORITY FIGURE, therefore it must be true"?
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: viktor]
#23428502 - 07/10/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23428541 - 07/10/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that's still true, but that phenomenon diminishes more every year...at least in America
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23429437 - 07/10/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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millzy said: i don't think the media is as much of the problem as the government. the government lied about iraq. the government continues to lie about the drug war and who knows what else. sure, there are dishonest media outlets. but as a whole, when we're talking about disinformation, we're talking about government because that's who creates it.
And who spreads it?
Who fed us the government-approved bullshit about iraq and the drug war?
the media spreads it, but it's not the source of the information. i think it's fair to say that in both cases - iraq and the drug war - the experts have failed us.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: millzy] 2
#23431393 - 07/11/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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millzy said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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millzy said: i don't think the media is as much of the problem as the government. the government lied about iraq. the government continues to lie about the drug war and who knows what else. sure, there are dishonest media outlets. but as a whole, when we're talking about disinformation, we're talking about government because that's who creates it.
And who spreads it?
Who fed us the government-approved bullshit about iraq and the drug war?
the media spreads it, but it's not the source of the information. i think it's fair to say that in both cases - iraq and the drug war - the experts have failed us.
They failed us intentionally, and I think that makes the media complicit. Have the integrity to not just be a wing of the pentagon.
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: Enlil]
#23431397 - 07/11/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I think that's still true, but that phenomenon diminishes more every year...at least in America
On average, I would agree with that. I think we have months or years where people buy into the bs a little more than others, whether it be economic volatility, terror attack aftermath, etc.
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23431885 - 07/11/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They failed us intentionally, and I think that makes the media complicit. Have the integrity to not just be a wing of the pentagon.
i can see your point of view with respect to experts. but it's my impression that the media just runs with whatever their government sources tell them. perhaps more skepticism is needed.
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Re: Paid political shills on the Shroomery? [Re: millzy] 2
#23431910 - 07/11/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skepticism should be a cornerstone of journalism. Especially in today's world.
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