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lone_psychonaut
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Reflector hood?
#23416982 - 07/06/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm using a 27 watt CFL; is a reflector hood needed?
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No... Another 27 watt bulb would be cheaper and more effective.
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Not at all. You don't need focused light and it will generate unnecessary dry heat.
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Ok thanks guys It's a 66qt tub, would two bulbs be overkill?
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It's hard to pinpoint where overkill happens... they can fruit fine off a shitty little 13w bulb, I use those for single tubs all the time. I really don't ever have to use 2 lights for one tub, but in cases where I have, for the fuck of it, there were no negative results, though it's hard to measure positive results so I haven't assumed anything personally.
I'm sure it wouldn't be overkill until it's actually harming them, but it's definitely not necessary.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417019 - 07/06/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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6500k - nothing else matters
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That's a little short sighted seeing as lumens are in fact kind of important but... you know... whatever. Sounds good when you say it I guess. If it were true though I'd just plug the light in the ceiling fixture and call it a day for all my grows.
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lone_psychonaut said: Ok thanks guys It's a 66qt tub, would two bulbs be overkill?
I have a 2' 23W T5HO about 1' above my 66qt and they seem to do fine with a 12/12 cycle. The fixture came with built in reflector. 6500K
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417027 - 07/06/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've gotten different rands of light bulbs and the only thing I ever checked was to make sure it was 6500k and my results say that was perfectly fine.
Indeed, it does sound good.
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And I do in fact just plug in a lamp fixture it's mushrooms, not weed
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So one ceiling light is enough for all your grows in the room?
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417049 - 07/06/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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2 bulbs on 2 lamps is enough, yes. I find it shocking that this is so difficult to believe?
Edit: for 6 tubs
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Edited by Kush_Zombie (07/06/16 01:58 PM)
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2 bulbs for 5 tubs 
It's like magic
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So now it's 2 bulbs? I thought 6500k was all that mattered? What's the difference between 1 and 2? And these are lamps, not on the ceiling. Why not just use the ceiling light for the whole room?
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And here's one of the tubs. Done with MS culture. Working on clones that I started from this tub now.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417089 - 07/06/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: So now it's 2 bulbs? I thought 6500k was all that mattered? What's the difference between 1 and 2? And these are lamps, not on the ceiling. Why not just use the ceiling light for the whole room?

Lol well when did it become a whole room? Geez you're butthurt right now. Do one bulb and suck a dick for all I care
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Looking at the far tub, it looks like shrooms and Jello shooters are on for tonight.
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Inocuole said: So now it's 2 bulbs? I thought 6500k was all that mattered? What's the difference between 1 and 2? And these are lamps, not on the ceiling. Why not just use the ceiling light for the whole room?

Lol well when did it become a whole room? Geez you're butthurt right now. Do one bulb and suck a dick for all I care 
Uh huhhh...

Yep, thanks, got what I needed.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417110 - 07/06/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The lumens do have some effect. As a secondary pinning trigger more light will help with the pinsets but excessive light can dry out your tub easier, or so RR said in the past anyway. When it comes to "how low can you go?", it's tough to say. Liloldme uses like 7w(IIRC) LED strip lights for his tubs, I have recently hooked up something similiar. Mine are 10w each though. As for results, I can't say as of yet but liloldme has been using these for a while now, he says they work just great.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417111 - 07/06/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anytime
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I mean obviously lumens play a part...so does oxygen. Obviously when you plug in that lightbulb it's going to have lumens and those lumens obviously matter. I just thought it was common sense that light needs to hit the mushrooms so you need as many bulbs as you need to make that possible.
If you go to the store and pay attention to nothing but lumens, you'll probably fuck up and get the wrong bulb. If you go and get 6500k light bulbs and get as many as you think you'll need to cover the area, you would be perfectly fine.
That's all I was getting at and the main point was that a hood is not needed. I didn't realize I had to baby step through the whole thing for people like Inocuole.
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Or you could just not make blanket statements unless you're prepared to back them up. That seems pretty simple. Apparently not simple enough for people like Kush Zombie. Ohh seee I can make condescending statements to detract from your argument too. What a stunningly effective way to communicate!
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Kush_Zombie said: 6500k - nothing else matters
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Kush_Zombie said: I mean obviously lumens play a part...
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417192 - 07/06/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was effective enough to make you focus your attention on it and reply to that specifically while also feeling the need to do the same thing out of spite 
Seems pretty effective to me.
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So this is a "teehee made you look" now? Oh yep, you got me bud.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417251 - 07/06/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And you got me? 
I can't believe you really started going on about my nothing else matters comment and took it to heart. Didn't mean to rustle your jimmies there sport.
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I like how you're working extra hard to make yourself sound sarcastic this whole time lol. I think I struck a nerve somewhere
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You are clueless if you think I give a shit what you have to say.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417275 - 07/06/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's what I'd say if I was trying hard to show that I didn't give a shit when I really gave a shit
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I don't want any problems. Lumens matter and I shouldn't have said that nothing else matters because without lumens it wouldn't reach the mushrooms and without oxygen we couldn't survive long enough to turn on the lamp. You'll also be needing an outlet and a working electric panel.
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Sorry, I meant lamp(s). I don't want you to spaz out and almost bust into a seizure or something because I wasn't specific enough for ya.
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This thread is about the use of reflectors, lumens was basically what the question translates to being about, nobody even brought up color temp, he already has the bulb.
Nice triple post though.. And you accuse me of being butthurt. Someone has been brewing on this thread for a full 90 minutes, coming back to post even more, never considering the edit function. Only reason I checked at all is that I thought out of 3 posts, at least one of them would be something worth responding to. I'm used to disappointment by now though.
A little bit of composure goes a long way.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417355 - 07/06/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I'm used to disappointment by now though.
That comes with the territory.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417364 - 07/06/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's why I mentioned it because color temp wasn't brought up. If it's irrelevant then simply look past it because the OP obviously already knows then.
So what made you keep checking the previous 90 minutes (that you were brewing) when it was clearly only me replying? hmmmm?
EDIT (you're welcome): and it clearly was worth responding to because you responded to it.
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Edited by Kush_Zombie (07/06/16 03:38 PM)
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You think Inoc is being difficult yet you used 10 posts of nonsense to get to this point?
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Kush_Zombie said: Lumens matter and I shouldn't have said that nothing else matters
You know how the shroomery works, you've been here long enough, we simply dont want noobs to go 6500k is all that matters and find a 1w led. Everything flows way smoother here if you dont take offence to stuff like this.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417551 - 07/06/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: So one ceiling light is enough for all your grows in the room?

looks at single ceiling light in grow room
I'll just stay out of this one
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Let's see your light Munch. I bet it's bad ass if there's only one.
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Re: Reflector hood? [Re: Inocuole]
#23417670 - 07/06/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I appreciate being given the benefit of the doubt, but you'll probably be let down.
Also im not home now and I don't have an actual pic of the light... But
One 45w light in a socket above where the pic was taken. And I eventually moved all my tubs to the top shelf.
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45w is pretty powerful for a CFL though, and with shit on the top shelf, that's pretty smart.
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