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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: TheMovement]
#23419919 - 07/07/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're wrong. As a twiddle fan that doesn't surprise me though. Who's better? I don't have all day, so I won't list them all. For starters though...just for starters; Phish, the New Mastersounds, Red Baraat, Ozric Tentacles, SCI, Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Lotus, Lettuce, the Motet, Kung Fu, Globular, Bonobo, Tipper, Kaminanda, Eliot Lipp, Rusty, Suduaya, Odjbox, ProLeter, Shaman's Dream, Dirtwire, Subaqueous, Late Night Radio, the list goes on & on.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Sheekle]
#23419926 - 07/07/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't really get why music created with a computer isn't considered music. Last I checked, whether something is good or bad solely depends on the observer, and that music is a complex set of auditory patterns that make up melodies and such.
If the definition of 'music' were in fact as some people on these boards is as they claim it to be, then artists like Amon Tobin wouldn't be musicians, and that's clearly not the case. People love to hate on Lorin just because it's so easy to trash talk a lot of the fans that follow him and admittedly even some of his work. He does however have quite a lot of decent tracks that he's made over the years and shouldn't be judged solely on shit like "808 track" (a track that i have no care to listen to and is complete garbage).
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: 404]
#23419935 - 07/07/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some people I know are really into Nahko. I can't stand it. It's terrible to me. But I can appreciate that other people have different tastes than me.
Bonobo, ozric, SCI, Lettuce, Lotus, and kung fu are all great bands, i have to concur on those.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: 404] 1
#23419936 - 07/07/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I gave Bassnectar a fair shot. His shit is boring & overrated, and I love electronic music.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23419937 - 07/07/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You've admitted to being a twiddle fan before, lol. I thoroughly enjoy all those bands, besides umphreys and Lettuce, and still believe that nectar is near the top. In the end, it all comes down to personal preference, but nectar live sets are some of the best shows I have ever been too. I've even been sober for them, too.
Different strokes and all. I do respect your musical opinion, though.
I'm seeing tipper in august with Pretty lights and G Jones, I can't fucking wait. Tipper is one of my favorite artists right now. I just love his sound, even during daily activities, YUM. Have you seen him live yet?
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star]
#23419943 - 07/07/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I gave Bassnectar a fair shot. His shit is boring & overrated, and I love electronic music.
He doesn't play a lot of his older stuff anymore. Grampa Slams is a great track, as is Dubuasca.
I've been to a couple bassnectar shows, one at a festival. The one at counterpoint 2012 I thought he did terrible, it seemed like he wasn't even really trying. The one at house of blues was great though
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: 404] 1
#23419946 - 07/07/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: I don't really get why music created with a computer isn't considered music. Last I checked, whether something is good or bad solely depends on the observer, and that music is a complex set of auditory patterns that make up melodies and such.
It's because of fucking old people who can't come to terms with modern society. Do people not realize that rap music is produced electronically? It's funny his rap has been known as music forever but electronic music isn't? Just a bunch of old hypocrites. The difference between rap/hip hop and electronic music is basically nothing, hip hop features vocals while electronic music features beats, but they both have both
I mean what about effects on guitars? That's not natural or organic. Where do you draw the line?
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: UncleCid] 2
#23419948 - 07/07/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dylan sold out when he went electric.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Sun King] 1
#23419951 - 07/07/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sun King said: Dylan sold out when he went electric.
No, he evolved. Music needs to constantly evolve to keep things interesting and makes new genres and new sounds
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: UncleCid] 1
#23419958 - 07/07/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd like to say one last thing about nectar... I don't think he will ever come close to the diversity and complexity that is exhibited by OTT... Ott rocks my fucking socks.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Sun King] 3
#23419961 - 07/07/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sun King said: Dylan sold out when he went electric.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: 404] 1
#23419965 - 07/07/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: I don't really get why music created with a computer isn't considered music. Last I checked, whether something is good or bad solely depends on the observer, and that music is a complex set of auditory patterns that make up melodies and such.
If the definition of 'music' were in fact as some people on these boards is as they claim it to be, then artists like Amon Tobin wouldn't be musicians, and that's clearly not the case. People love to hate on Lorin just because it's so easy to trash talk a lot of the fans that follow him and admittedly even some of his work. He does however have quite a lot of decent tracks that he's made over the years and shouldn't be judged solely on shit like "808 track" (a track that i have no care to listen to and is complete garbage).
You just don't get how it works. Using any kind of external device to make noise, be it a guitar or a laptop, is considered cheating amongst those of us who really understand what music is all about. It's not about emotional expression, or the arrangement of particular sounds in a manner that is pleasing to the ear. It's all about who is the most hardcore.
People like me, who are at the very top of musicianship, keep our melodies inside our heads where they belong, because even vocal cords are alien devices compared with the introspective purity of the inner sound. Basically, anyone who plays instruments, sings, or uses a recording device of any kind is not a real musician.
On a more serious note, people are really shitty about electronic music. I don't listen to much of the stuff, and I hate a lot of it, but to try and deny that there is serious talent involved or insist that the genre isn't music at all is ludicrous snobbery. It's on about the same level as people who insist video games cannot be works of art, although even that makes a bit more sense than claiming that electronic music isn't actually music. I've seen old interviews of people crying about electric guitars and claiming Jimi Hendrix was cheating and using gimmicks because he played with distortion and effects. People like to get upset about new types of art they don't care for.
At least everyone can agree that using a plectrum is cheating and anyone who so much as owns one of the things is not an artist.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: 404]
#23419973 - 07/07/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, we really put that shitty mentality to rest...
the only thing they can agree with us on, is that they are entitled to their own opinion of what sounds good or not. LOL
...and that is precisely what makes music such a special thing.
We're not all going to enjoy the same shit and that is perfectly fine.
However, when posters cling to these 'ideas' of what makes someone a musician or not I can't help but laugh. It is such a backwards way of thinking.
Music is music, doesn't matter if it was developed on a computer or pots and pans.
What is IMPORTANT is the passion that went into the making of the song. YOU can actually hear it and be in tune with it.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star]
#23420011 - 07/07/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: You're wrong. As a twiddle fan that doesn't surprise me though. Who's better? I don't have all day, so I won't list them all. For starters though...just for starters; Phish, the New Mastersounds, Red Baraat, Ozric Tentacles, SCI, Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Lotus, Lettuce, the Motet, Kung Fu, Globular, Bonobo, Tipper, Kaminanda, Eliot Lipp, Rusty, Suduaya, Odjbox, ProLeter, Shaman's Dream, Dirtwire, Subaqueous, Late Night Radio, the list goes on & on.
I find Ozric Tentacles to being boring and repetitive and compared with Bassnectar Never been to a live show. Not familiar with the other artists.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: morrowasted]
#23420023 - 07/07/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They're almost 30 years past their prime, to be fair. They were pretty good at one time.
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star]
#23420027 - 07/07/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I gave Bassnectar a fair shot. His shit is boring & overrated, and I love electronic music.
Im curious, what is your favorite electronic artists?
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i'd hate to be a lil' grammar nazi but you really butchered that sentence brah
it would be 'who are your favorite edm artists'
but carry on with the...

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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23420075 - 07/07/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Who's better? I don't have all day, so I won't list them all. For starters though...just for starters;
continues to create an extensive list with every artist that comes to mind
ROFL
c'mon dude
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23420110 - 07/07/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: dumb things festi tour kids say [Re: wigglewak]
#23420269 - 07/07/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: Free if you boof it!
definitely free if you boof it
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