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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23419477 - 07/07/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Did you guys case that? If not do so

EDIT; SHJ you should have holes on the top of your monotub as well. Those are to fit losely while the bottom ones a little tighter


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23419582 - 07/07/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Of course I have top holes. I didnt cased, and I was wondering if it would be too late to do it now


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23419624 - 07/07/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ah okay I didn't see them in the pic, tub is deeper than I thought :shrug:

I've cased at this stage before, I would go for it. Safest way is just to hydrate some verm, bring to field capacity and case it


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23419672 - 07/07/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know... I'm really considering the idea of picking the few early shrooms to fast a bit the "second" flush. In two weeks I'll be out of city so it would be shitty if a casing would make flush come later...


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23421968 - 07/07/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quick update. I have the impression that my top holes are too high, and do produce FAE, but not a good one near substrate level, not promoting good evaporation. So, I decided to do two more holes at 5,5 inches or so from substrate, in one of the monotubs, and covered the old one. In one hour or so I'll check for dry rings to have a clue, and in case I'll like it I'll repeat the operation on the others monos.
Also, my bottom holes are too high too (1 inch, maybe 1,5 from substrate), but it would be very difficult to do 4 more holes at sub level without risking in damaging it, so I'll leave them for this run and maybe rearrange for next round.


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422111 - 07/08/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

SHJ said:
Quick update. I have the impression that my top holes are too high, and do produce FAE, but not a good one near substrate level, not promoting good evaporation. So, I decided to do two more holes at 5,5 inches or so from substrate, in one of the monotubs, and covered the old one. In one hour or so I'll check for dry rings to have a clue, and in case I'll like it I'll repeat the operation on the others monos.
Also, my bottom holes are too high too (1 inch, maybe 1,5 from substrate), but it would be very difficult to do 4 more holes at sub level without risking in damaging it, so I'll leave them for this run and maybe rearrange for next round.





Do you have evap rings on your top holes?


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422123 - 07/08/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You don't need more than 6 holes in your mono with a 2.5inch diameter. The bottom ones should be around 1inch-2inches above substrate level

Here is how you can dial in your monotub; https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777

If you're having trouble with evaporation try to loosen the top holes and if the top ones are already loose try and loosen a bit the bottom ones or add a fan in a room with it pointing AWAY from the monotub to allow good circulation


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422330 - 07/08/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I do have rings around holes.
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You don't need more than 6 holes in your mono with a 2.5inch diameter. The bottom ones should be around 1inch-2inches above substrate level

Here is how you can dial in your monotub; https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777

If you're having trouble with evaporation try to loosen the top holes and if the top ones are already loose try and loosen a bit the bottom ones or add a fan in a room with it pointing AWAY from the monotub to allow good circulation




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So, I decided to do two more holes at 5,5 inches or so from substrate, in one of the monotubs, and covered the old one.




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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422348 - 07/08/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't understand what your point is but your problem is your FAE not the height your holes are at

Drilling more holes in your mono higher isn't gonna make a difference if you have poor air circulation and too tight of polyfill. Fix that and you'll get more pinning :rolleyes:


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23422411 - 07/08/16 05:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

New setup. I really would stack my tubs, but I cant because I bought these damn black things and light can pass only by the lid :facepalm:
Suggestions?

(Please ignore those sad blocks on the top)


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422413 - 07/08/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why don't you make a strip light with white and blue LEDs?

That way you can give maximum light vertically


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23422418 - 07/08/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was thinking that...but for this run I'm not gonna do it cause I dont have time right now. For the next tubs I guess I'm gonna simply buy some clear and little shorter tubs


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23422422 - 07/08/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it's any reassurance I have a few tubs which are all black as well but I give them light from the top and spread all across. I also had some tubs sit in the dark for a long time, way past their fruiting condition, and they still pinned and fruited


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23425317 - 07/09/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm pretty sure I finally understood where my problem is.
My substrate was too wet. This also explains why tubs are fruiting near the edges: not (only) because of lack of fae, but because the wettest part of the substrate is of course the center. This is why I've found a lot of water below liners a week or two ago. How do I discovered that?
Well... Look at this.



This substrate was fruiting in open air due to lack of tubs (and showed no pins nor knots at that time). One day, one of my regular tubs showed some pin mold. Substrate went in the garden, and that open air substrate was moved in this free tub. But, during the transfer, I messed it and substrate cracked. Now, for an emergency in my family, I had to run away and leave everything as it was, with the substrate in open air. And it remained this way of one day or two. When I came back home I was pretty confident it was only good for composting...but I had nothing to loose and I put it in the container anyway, with a few good mistings. Now is pinning more nicely than my regular tubs!
I'm confident now that coming flushes are gonna be nice


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23425453 - 07/09/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

nice! looks good, I drilled 4 new holes just above the substrate now to increase evap, has worked a lot better so far..

still no pinning for me =(


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23425535 - 07/09/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

SHJ said:
I'm pretty sure I finally understood where my problem is.
My substrate was too wet. This also explains why tubs are fruiting near the edges: not (only) because of lack of fae, but because the wettest part of the substrate is of course the center. This is why I've found a lot of water below liners a week or two ago. How do I discovered that?
Well... Look at this.



This substrate was fruiting in open air due to lack of tubs (and showed no pins nor knots at that time). One day, one of my regular tubs showed some pin mold. Substrate went in the garden, and that open air substrate was moved in this free tub. But, during the transfer, I messed it and substrate cracked. Now, for an emergency in my family, I had to run away and leave everything as it was, with the substrate in open air. And it remained this way of one day or two. When I came back home I was pretty confident it was only good for composting...but I had nothing to loose and I put it in the container anyway, with a few good mistings. Now is pinning more nicely than my regular tubs!
I'm confident now that coming flushes are gonna be nice




I wanna see how the dissection of the mold went. I've heard once it starts forming mold its better to just get the whole sub outside asap, due to the mold starting to sporulate. Curious to see how this goes now. :popcorn:

Seems like you had some decent pins going thou! mold = :frown:


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: Ziran]
    #23425603 - 07/09/16 03:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In fact I moved away the contaminated tub, I didn't dissected it (you should never do such a think, by the way)


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Re: Monotubs pinning issues [Re: SHJ]
    #23427238 - 07/09/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

dayum. Where did those huge gaps come from?


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