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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23468533 - 07/23/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"I dunked my sub but nothing happened, then I re-cased and mushrooms grew within 2 hrs wehuuu musta been the recasing!" :cookiemonster:


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468539 - 07/23/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23468810 - 07/23/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You guys do know what conjecture is right? I'm saying that I HAVE HAD SUCCESS with dunking in the past. I just started reading and came across some threads that said dunking casings can increase chances of contams.

I have never had dunking increase contams, but then again I have never dunked before a first flush. The reason I would dunk is because it is possible that my trays have become dry due to me switching to a tent instead of using monotubs which have never failed me in the past.

My goodness guys, I never used to have people give me this hard of time on this forum and I can tell you this...I am just trying to get some extra opinions because I respect you all, but I know how to run a successful grow. I'm not understanding why the flaming in this thread?

I don't think you are reading my posts and fully understanding that I am just trying to have a discussion. Not once in this thread have I disagreed with advice given, I have been thankful for each reply, and I haven't promoted anything that would harm other growers, so what gives?

Edit: I guess I have completely lost my ability to interpret tongue in cheek humor...haha


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468831 - 07/23/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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MrPeanutButta said:
My goodness guys, I never used to have people give me this hard of time on this forum


I don't think you are reading my posts and fully understanding that I am just trying to have a discussion.




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MrPeanutButta said:
Edit: After doing some reading I may just recase rather than dunk. I have dunked monotubs in the past with some success, but I am sure it increases chances for contams.




WTF have you been reading? got a link?




as you see we're laughing at the stuff you've read, not you for reading it.
we've read tons of BS ourselves, and some is hysterically funny because its just so wrong.

Got that link? cause recasing is bad while dunking is good!
having water logged subs sit without any fresh air on the other hand is not.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468836 - 07/23/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Edit: After doing some reading I may just recase rather than dunk. I have dunked monotubs in the past with some success, but I am sure it increases chances for contams.




WTF have you been reading? got a link?




I will look for them, but they were scattered around. Mostly I kept seeing people saying that dunking a casing is unnecessary, dunking can cause increased chance for contams, etc. I have never had an issue with it, but I have been on a long break. In this specific situation where my sub seems to be drying out before a flush I am contemplating dunking. Then when I went to go do some research I found all of the people talking about it like it is either unnecessary or could even lead to problems.

What some of the threads were saying is that you shouldn't have to dunk, but rather just mist your casing heavily and that it would transfer enough moisture back in the sub to suffice without dunking. Here is a link to one such thread.

https://mycotopia.net/topic/42769-dunk-or-not-before-first-flush/

Hell for all I know you guys might tell me myctopia is a terrible place to look for info. The fact is that I base my decisions on the replies I get from experts like yourselves and am never resistant to it. That's why I am confused by the condescending responses. I respect you all and am just asking for advice.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta] * 1
    #23468842 - 07/23/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Flaming, definition:

An online argument that becomes nasty or derisive, where insulting a party to the discussion takes precedence over the objective merits of one side or another




Nope, not what's happening here.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468844 - 07/23/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
Quote:

MrPeanutButta said:
My goodness guys, I never used to have people give me this hard of time on this forum


I don't think you are reading my posts and fully understanding that I am just trying to have a discussion.




Quote:

spacechildo said:
Quote:

MrPeanutButta said:
Edit: After doing some reading I may just recase rather than dunk. I have dunked monotubs in the past with some success, but I am sure it increases chances for contams.




WTF have you been reading? got a link?




as you see we're laughing at the stuff you've read, not you for reading it.
we've read tons of BS ourselves, and some is hysterically funny because its just so wrong.

Got that link? cause recasing is bad while dunking is good!
having water logged subs sit without any fresh air on the other hand is not.





Okay well then I feel dumb. I must just be misinterpreting haha. Right that's the conclusion I have drawn since I made that last post. I am actually going to dunk without recasing. I have been trying to reintroduce moisture through some misting, but it is not going to be enough. I effed up and dried this sub out. Monotubs were way easier to maintain perfect conditions in my past experience.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23468853 - 07/23/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Supalemonhaze said:
Quote:

Flaming, definition:

An online argument that becomes nasty or derisive, where insulting a party to the discussion takes precedence over the objective merits of one side or another




Nope, not what's happening here.




Alright well then I'm just being sensitive then lol. Have I lost my sense of humor?....not good.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta] * 1
    #23468861 - 07/23/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They are just messing around. No one here wants anything but for you to pull off the best grow you can. Problem is that I think we are too used to kids coming in here arguing with everything they are told, offering bad advice etc.

Careful with drawing conclusions, they can be misleading and corrolation is not causation. We see that a lot. People do something completely uncontrolled,  draw conclusions, then spread it around like the gospel. Bad information is considered and enemy here and will be crushed without mercy.

I for one wish you well. Please keep us updated with your progress :thumbup:


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta] * 1
    #23468871 - 07/23/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yes mycotopia sucks :lol:

make sure to search for new info only, use the search engine, not just the bar, choose 3-4yr old posts max, tick the TC box to avoid noobs just spewing bad info and learn how to spot the shit posters from good advice givers.

I was asking for the link because I was feeling sure it was some random noob 10 yrs ago or something. or mycotopia :lol:


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23468875 - 07/23/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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They are just messing around. No one here wants anything but for you to pull off the best grow you can. Problem is that I think we are too used to kids coming in here arguing with everything they are told, offering bad advice etc.

Careful with drawing conclusions, they can be misleading and corrolation is not causation. We see that a lot. People do something completely uncontrolled,  draw conclusions, then spread it around like the gospel. Bad information is considered and enemy here and will be crushed without mercy.

I for one wish you well. Please keep us updated with your progress :thumbup:




I know....you are totally right. Even just making the comment "I guess that can increase the chances of contams" could easily confuse someone who is brand new to this. If I'm not sure moving forward I will ask the question instead of making a statement.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468886 - 07/23/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
yes mycotopia sucks :lol:

make sure to search for new info only, use the search engine, not just the bar, choose 3-4yr old posts max, tick the TC box to avoid noobs just spewing bad info and learn how to spot the shit posters from good advice givers.

I was asking for the link because I was feeling sure it was some random noob 10 yrs ago or something. or mycotopia :lol:




Lol well fair enough. I did get that feeling when I was reading some of the other threads over there. Trust me, I know Shroomery is the best source of info. Why I ever left this forum and this hobby is beyond me. I used to be really into it, and know all of this stuff like the back of my hand. I have based most everything I do on RR's advice. For whatever reason it was not like riding a bike for me. I came back and oversimplified and half assed. Now i'm back on track, but trying to get these trays where they need to be.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: spacechildo]
    #23468888 - 07/23/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Check out this link. I know your not new or suggesting you are guilty of doing any of these things but, it will give you an idea of what the regular posters here are about. We are mostly nerds and geeks who are super anal about precise information and delivery of that information. We may come off as rude to those not used to us but it's more that we are too busy geeking out to worry about delivering that message with smilies or a gentle touch.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23468912 - 07/23/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
Check out this link. I know your not new or suggesting you are guilty of doing any of these things but, it will give you an idea of what the regular posters here are about. We are mostly nerds and geeks who are super anal about precise information and delivery of that information. We may come off as rude to those not used to us but it's more that we are too busy geeking out to worry about delivering that message with smilies or a gentle touch.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379




I just read it...good post. Trust me I get it. I am an app dev product manager...my whole world is based on precision and geekery haha. I just smoke a lot of weed lately and it has kind of chilled out my OCD a bit...possibly too much.


Edited by MrPeanutButta (07/23/16 10:51 AM)


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta]
    #23468940 - 07/23/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey OP... if I may ask, how long of a break did you take from cultivation?


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23468991 - 07/23/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey OP... if I may ask, how long of a break did you take from cultivation?




I took a 4 year break. I had a few life events that contributed...grandpa passed away from cancer, I graduated from college, and then my wife left me haha. Somehow I just stopped and almost forgot about it for a while. I just happened to have a really old EQ spore syringe that I forgot about in the fridge that had fallen behind one of the chiller drawers. When I found it I got the urge to give it another go.

Edit: Just to add...everything is coming back to me very quickly now. It's not so much that I forgot all of the information, but rather how to tactically apply that information and how important it is to follow every detail of each tek. If you cut corners in any way you will most likely have problems arise and all of the work you put into it will be a waste.


Edited by MrPeanutButta (07/23/16 12:30 PM)


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta] * 1
    #23469017 - 07/23/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Once you get the feel of why teks are outlined the way they are, an understanding of the vectors involved, you won't need a tek. You can then extrapolate and work on the fly.

It gets easier the more you do.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23469022 - 07/23/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: Inocuole]
    #23471816 - 07/24/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Alright guys I finally found the other thread that led to the misdirection:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2129821/fpart/all/vc/1


Notice the back and forth between Anno and Starter. Long story short last night I picked off the immature fruit and then poured a quart of water on top of and around the sides of my casing trays.

I then poured out the rest and rinsed off the top with some tap water. I didn't force anything but let the existing casing layer wash off into the sink. I basically want to try to pin this thing uncased at this point. If I still have issues then I might recase if I never get any activity.

I can see what Anno is saying in that thread if your sub and casing never dried out, but in my case it did dry out and I don't think misting would be sufficient.


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Re: Yeast After G2G [Re: MrPeanutButta] * 1
    #23471828 - 07/24/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

that link is 12 yrs old and most pics there are of MJ :lol:
We've sure come a long way! "casings" we just call trays now, less confusion.
Not really sure where it says to recase or that dunking causes contams tho? :confused2:


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