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psilo.jts
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Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!?
#23412905 - 07/05/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I just did my harvest, but conditions with no A/C and it being really hot caused more hollow stems. So I have about 50 cubensis, but wet weight is only about 35g!!?!? Thats so minimal for the amount and size. Now if each mushroom has lets say .65 psilocybin and .45 of psilosin, then why would it matter if I ate 8 more hollow stemed to 8 more meatier shrooms wouldn't I still get the same result if they would have the same amount of active alkoloids per mushroom?? Bc my first flush had only like 10 mushrooms but was 38g and tripped balls. Wouldn't I have the same effect with 10 shrooms off the same substrate?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: psilo.jts]
#23412912 - 07/05/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's all going to be random. Potency with ms can vary greatly. I have grown shrooms where I needed 6 grams for a proper trip, I have had others where a single gram was enough.
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psilo.jts
mycology4ev



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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23412928 - 07/05/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's crazy shit. Like if the mushrooms have consecutive potency then it should work on just mushroom count. Especially if aborts have sometimes the same amount of actives as the fruits. And I don't want me to be right and eating like 50 cubensis and going crazy bc of it
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: psilo.jts]
#23412938 - 07/05/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You won't know what you get until you try em. If you want consistent potency then isolate or clone. Otherwise it's always gonna be a dice roll.
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Snazz
Polymath



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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23412968 - 07/05/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wish there was a way to find those potent ones and clone. TLC, label and keep fresh samples would take a long time.
Sample sizes are almost too low to bioassay
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Mycologist217
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Snazz]
#23412980 - 07/05/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Honestly that's why I work pretty exclusively with Penis Envy as far as cubensis goes...I used to grow a lot of B+ and treasure coast because I liked the names of the variety, but it was irksome to spend forty days growing mushrooms that weren't giving me the experience I craved....so I did an MS penis envy grow last year, picked a giant mushroom based on size alone as I could be fairly confident the potency is there...cloned it....and now I can make tubs that put out 12oz of super potent dick whenever I please! Not bragging....but if you are wanting badass potency out of your cubensis....Penis Envy....
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Snazz
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Mycologist217]
#23413022 - 07/05/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have a peek in my journal section
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mupetmower
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Snazz]
#23413165 - 07/05/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, it would be prwetty sweet if there were a simple way to quickly test the potency of a fruit, so you can know if you want to clone it for potency's sake. because, unless it's a 3g dry mushrooms, or something, you will be having to eat multiple mushrooms, anyways, to know if they are potent enough. and from an MS grow, it would be impossible to know if any one of those single mushrooms contributed more than the others you ate.
so basically, all we can do now is clone/isolate a big/pretty fruit/cluster and then once you harvest those, you can test em. and hope they will be potent.
or, i guess if it's a big enough mushroom, you can take the clone sample, and then dry, weigh, and eat it, then either continue with the clone if it's really potent, or dont.
just would be awesome if there were some simple and quick test.
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Snazz
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: mupetmower]
#23413833 - 07/05/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mupetmower
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: Snazz]
#23416232 - 07/06/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's pretty cool, but also sucks a lot. Because now they can test the tiny levels in iron easier. No Bueno.
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weetsie
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: mupetmower]
#23416257 - 07/06/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't scientists have anything more productive to do than develop more accurate drug tests?
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Snazz
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Re: Does weight really matter compared to shroom count?!? [Re: weetsie]
#23416349 - 07/06/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are a huge threat to keeping the sheep in line
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