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Dark Souls 3
#23412827 - 07/05/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just bought this game, never played any of the other ones. This game is annoyingly hard, im finally getting the hang of it but holy shit, i cant imagine that a lot of people who are new to it wouldnt give up relatively quickly and never play again. Its basically pattern recognition and timing but it takes a bit to get used to IMO.
Took me like 3 hours and 80 attempts to get passed the first boss and hes the literal start of the game, had to switch to a more noobfriendly class just to do it.
Any one else play this game, what's your thoughts on it?
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You started on the 3rd one? You deserve to fail at that game.
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Yeah i never even heard of dark souls till 3 days ago when i bought this one lol
Im on the third or fourth boss now, whichever one is a massive tree with puss bubbles or some shit as its weak spot
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Never played, but it's supposed to be incredibly hard. People say it's one of the more difficult games out there. Aside from that, would you say it's worth playing? If I'm not mistaken I think it just went on sale in the Xbox store and I'm debating whether or not to scoop it
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Id definitely recommend it, its frustrating but its very challenging which forces you to stay engaged in it or you die and have to start over which i like a lot, everything has a different attack so you basically have to learn their attack patterns and be able to dodge or parry on time or even heal without them attacking you.
If you never played the first boss and the first 2-3 hours are going to be sooo annoying but youll quickly get used to the gameplay and adjust to it, once you figure it out though it starts getting fun and theres way more you can do.
I got it because of how hard i read it was and wanted a challenge, really didnt expect it to be damn near impossible at first had to look up tips and tricks even for the first boss and hes within 3 minutes of starting the game
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I started on 3 and got past the first boss on 2nd try in 10 minutes. The Souls series isn't as hard or difficult as people say it. It is significantly more punishing and strict than every game and that's makes people think it is "difficult". It's just a matter of learning the game itself and its mechanics which isn't any more complex harder than your typical game.
Great games. Well worth playing.
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: daz01]
#23413232 - 07/05/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I haven't played 3 yet, but I've 100% on the first two. It's not harder than other games, but it is more time consuming and less forgiving. A mistake can easily mean an hour or two of lost progress.
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Enlil] 1
#23413287 - 07/05/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mage/pyro is easier I find, playing warrior is always hard In ds games
Cleric with a bow is my favorite tho
The series are my all time favorite demon souls 100% ds 1-2-3 100% with dlc, bloodborne 100%. Waiting on ds3 dlc
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I find the series very aggravating at times. The gamer in me wants to play and get through it for the sense of accomplishment, but the rest of me ends up pissed off and wanting to rage quit, which I kinda did with 2. I got through a good bit of it then had to do an unexpected fresh install on my computer and lost my save and just said fuck doing all that again . Everyone says that the PC ports were shit compared to console version which may have influenced my decision on deciding it wasn't worth starting over.
I haven't started 3 yet but I intend to. I already have it but I've been addicted to another game I found a week or two ago called Mordheim City of the Damned. It's a more sandbox feeling take on turn based strategy games.
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dark souls 3 is a decent game once I leveled up to lik 145 though it seemed like my multiplayer pool got much smaller i think the sweet spot is like 125
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Dark Souls never really felt difficult to me, but that was probably due to recognition of how the series incorporates death as a mechanic. On the surface, Dark Souls may feel really unforgiving, but a lot of that seems to play off of expectations as a gamer. Once able to recognize that death is not actually the sort of crushing finality it is in typical games, it starts to feel more flexible.
Personally my love/hate relationship with 3 comes in with playing multiple classes. Different skillsets feel really different when fighting trash mobs, but once a boss fight starts endless rolling until an opening for a couple hits pops up is pretty much every builds combat. Assassin as first character --> roll roll roll, poke with Estoc a few times, roll roll roll Sorcerer --> roll roll roll, cast one or two spells, roll roll roll Heavy Armour Knight --> Roll roll roll, slash, roll roll roll
It may not help that Poise became a stat dictating iFrames during rolling instead of stagger when tanking hits.
Dark Souls 3 also made the games 'easy-mode' quite manageable. For anyone who has true difficulty with the game, each area has a location where farming souls is comically easy, and being over-leveled can make bosses kind of laughable in comparison.
The only thing that really makes Dark Souls seem 'difficult' is that it is not very overt in explaining mechanics. The game does not do a lot to communicate its systems to the player. More than an exercise in difficulty, personally view the series as a really solid role-playing game. It provides a lot of flexibility for builds, and any build feels viable (in PvE at least) if the player is willing to recognize the strengths and weaknesses they are set up for.




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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Tantrika]
#23414251 - 07/05/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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huge spoilers
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Konyap]
#23414599 - 07/05/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great game. Not substantially harder than 1 or 2 (especially Scholar of the First Sin).
Stick with it and check out Bloodborne as well!
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: snave]
#23414603 - 07/05/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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SweetLeaf, who is the lady with the tattoos in your signature?
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Unfortunately, the most information I have to give you is the full-size picture and a tattoo gallery it is in. 

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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Tantrika]
#23414655 - 07/05/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hnnngghh
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So I finally got around to starting this game. Seems a lot more casual and easy than the first two to me. Maybe it's just because it's a better PC port or maybe it really is easier.
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I finally got the hang of it, took me a bit to get used to the mechanics of this game and realize that picking everything up is important lol but it's definitely a lot easier now that I'm used to it
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I've only just reached the first boss. I kinda just wanted to feel him out and see how hard it was gonna be. I went in half dead with only 2 flasks and damn near beat him. I have no doubt I'll be able to beat him NP with full health and 3 flasks. I think my first boss ever in the series was more like what you listed in the OP. Ridiculous amount of time and deaths before I beat him.
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Just bought Dark Souls today too! I probably played the first dark souls for like 30 hours. I needed a good game to delve in to so I hooked myself up, and I am glad I did!
Still frustrating and just as fun. I think my room mates are getting more peeved at watching me die than I am haha! Im taking it slow and Im at that boss "Vordt of the Valley" or something. Can't wait to put some hours in this game and take my time perfecting my play.
I have been watching some videos on youtube about the lore of the game. I can't say that I understand it but the stories behind the bosses are super interesting to hear and I am sure will only make our future face off a little more endearing.
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Sanguin3]
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they give you these things called estus bone dust or something that makes your heal stronger i personally beat the game with out using them, I upgraded my flask to use it more, but I didn't make it's healing stronger now I did die a lot because i went to more difficult places then I should have been but I'd take a 35 hour play through over one in which I'm constantly summoning co-op or just over powering bosses the ashen bone dust were added in ds2 and I think it makes the game way too easy, I got up to ng++ before it got hard again
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Shroomslip said: I've only just reached the first boss. I kinda just wanted to feel him out and see how hard it was gonna be. I went in half dead with only 2 flasks and damn near beat him. I have no doubt I'll be able to beat him NP with full health and 3 flasks. I think my first boss ever in the series was more like what you listed in the OP. Ridiculous amount of time and deaths before I beat him.
I ended up remaking my character a few days ago once I got the hang of it because I messed up how I was leveling up my guy and I don't know if you can change that later or not so I wanted to before I got too deep into the game, when I replayed I ended up taking barely any damage from him and basically didn't even need a flask at all but still used one, only took me a day or 2 to get back to where I was at too. It definitely seemed way harder at first but it's relatively easy once you're familiar with the game, I might even end up playing the first two at some point whenever I end up finishing this one
No matter how muchI try I can't get used to a shield though, my parry and gaurding is absolutely terrible, I just roll around everywhere and try to maintain stamina 
@Konyap - I believe it's an undead bone shard for better healing with flasks off the top of my head but am unsure, always saw that option when I went to the bonfire and the one time I did do it I didn't even know what it did until I read something about them
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I probably wouldn't lose any health if I really concentrated and didn't push my luck but I tend to get impatient (IMO being impatient is the biggest killer in this game) and take risks I don't really have to.
I might go and change my character. I haven't leveled it up at all yet but I'm not really liking the feel of it. I went with Assassin. Has a "froggy" feel to it I just don't like .
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dark souls 3 is really good dark souls is probably one of my all time favorite settings and stories dark souls 2 I still kind of have no idea where the story was going lol
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You aint kidding about impatience being the biggest killer, that definitely seems to be a bad habit of mine, whether it's a boss or just a harder then usual guy roaming around, I get them low enough and get too excited and run in trying to finish them off quickly just to get blasted and killed when I basically had it won if I didn't try to rush it 
I went with cleric for the very first character I made just because I noticed he could heal and thought that would come in handy, hated it instantly and switched to a mercenary, and couldn't beat the first boss with mercenary so I switched to warrior and beat him on the first try and that's the one I ended up remaking but so far is the best one I've tried, definitely seems like a more noob-friendly class though
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So yeah I redid my character and started over to see if I liked Warrior any better. Completely different feel. Assassin was just too squirrely for my tastes. Felt more like you were dancing around and tapping enemies than actually fighting them. I died once on Warrior with the ice lizard thing because I wasn't accounting for how long the swing of the axe takes but got used to it pretty quickly. Ran through the cemetery, killed the ice thing and headed straight for the boss dude and beat him without dying once. This game is definitely easier than the previous ones.
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I wish the developers would stop pumping out dark souls releases and go back to revamping another release of chromehounds. That game was the tits.
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I just beat Wolnir or whatever it's name is. That was just ridiculous, easiest boss fight in any game ever. Some of the earliest common enemies are harder than him. It's so laughable I just had to post about it.
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Just beat deacons of the deep. I thought that was the easiest boss in the game. Just constantly rush him. I burned him in a matter of like 4 minutes.
I'm rolling a knight which I'm building vigor, endurance, str. Pretty simple I feel. Anyone got any recommendations for my next roll through the game? A little more challenging pve wise, and can do PvP later
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Bodhi of Ankou said: I wish the developers would stop pumping out dark souls releases and go back to revamping another release of chromehounds. That game was the tits.
Well, it's been announced by Hidetaka Miyazaki that this is the last Dark Souls game so you don't have to worry about that.
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SushiKing said: Just beat deacons of the deep. I thought that was the easiest boss in the game. Just constantly rush him. I burned him in a matter of like 4 minutes.
I just got through that one. I was running around killing everything for like 10 mins because I couldn't figure out what to do. I like the "discovery" aspect of the game and tend to not read about shit ahead of time, that one just wasn't clicking though. Dealing with the horde of enemies isn't hard at all so I wasn't really dying or running out of Estus but I wasn't making any progress either. Roamed around the room looking for anything out of the ordinary thinking maybe there was a source of power that kept them coming or a certain environmental way they had to be killed to stay dead. Eventually I just started running around the outer edge of the circle with one hand while I googled it on my phone in the other . Not even really paying attention to the screen.
Not the easiest in the game IMO but definitely way down there somewhere.
Warrior is starting to feel kind of over powered. I still die but it's almost always just because of my lack of patience and trying to get through enemies as fast as possible. Most things are dead in one or two swings and most enemies just get staggered and never really get a chance to swing. As long as I time it right I can just run straight for them, double tap my right handed weapon and keep moving.
I think I'm gonna try some kind of magic based class next go.
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I can't wait the DkS3 DLC. It's gonna be so awesome. I've not bought the season pass but.... oh... I will
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Hardest boss I've done so far was Dancer of boreal or borealis? Something close to that, it had a long reach and would literally not stop attacking, couldnt even get a second to stop rolling without getting hit. Couldnt even get a chance to attack back.
Only reason i beat it was because after 30 tries with that shit it decided to become autistic as fuck and only attack me once during the whole fight and just move back and forth or spin while i stood behind it nonstop attacking it
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yeah that was my road block i had to summon to people and try to aggro it with a two handed great shield while others attacked
i then beat him by myself in another file, she has a grab and then she has a spin attack that you CAN NOT BLOCK even with the most stamina, she does 6 hits and on the last two she is swinging two swords so it's double damage
the dlc is in the fall and then in the winter of next year
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Re: Dark Souls 3 [Re: Konyap]
#23456769 - 07/19/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just gotta git gud.
I love the souls/born series, probably my favorite games. The satisfaction of beating a hard boss is unrivaled IMO.
This video always cracks me up
Also this is a pretty accurate portrayal of playing through Ds2, long but worth it
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SirShroomsAlott said: Hardest boss I've done so far was Dancer of boreal or borealis? Something close to that, it had a long reach and would literally not stop attacking, couldnt even get a second to stop rolling without getting hit. Couldnt even get a chance to attack back.
Only reason i beat it was because after 30 tries with that shit it decided to become autistic as fuck and only attack me once during the whole fight and just move back and forth or spin while i stood behind it nonstop attacking it
Finally got to this part. Wasn't that hard to me. Only took 3 tries. You just gotta be really patient with him. Stay relatively close until he starts the long spin attack and then keep rolling just out of it's range until he stops and then get in your hits. Or if he's gonna do the dual stab crawl thing and you catch it in time and time it right, move so that he just barely misses you with the second one and then hit him some more.
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