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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Plain]
    #23417553 - 07/06/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In today's day and age, the accuser (female) has been given the benefit of the doubt against the accused (male), which is opposite the way the US justice system was designed to work, thanks political correctness!





So we should give the benefit of the doubt to men that are accused of rape because thats the way the us justice system was designed, to benefit men?





Maybe you should brush up on "presumption of innocence". :facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: qman]
    #23417559 - 07/06/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do you suppose everybody is granted an equal presumption of innocence?


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23417582 - 07/06/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you suppose everybody is granted an equal presumption of innocence?




The world isn't perfect, do you have a point?


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23417584 - 07/06/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The FBI determined that charges shouldn't be brought. Get the fuck over it, kay? We're talking about the child rape charges which have been brought against Trump, an admitted rapist of his former wife.




What the fuck? Absolutely shocking if true, but all I can find online is Trump denying it and one of his employees trying to claim spousal rape doesn't exist. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it, but it doesn't look like Trump admitted to anything, for whatever that's worth.

Whoever the fuck Michael Cohen is, he's a gigantic wanker.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23417587 - 07/06/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

LOL people will say anything to avoid getting Trump in office.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Burning Warrior] * 1
    #23417607 - 07/06/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Total smear campaign. And Sophie is a dude looks like a lady. His version of reality is not to be taken seriously. Sorry, no offense, just being honest.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Great Scott]
    #23417617 - 07/06/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Accusations, years later when hes in as much limelight as humanly possible. Not moments after it happened when there would've been actual evidence and more then hearsay. If all it is is a he said she said thing personally I wouldnt side with anyone, and as a judge that would result in an acquittal. Of course its highly unlikely this is gonna land on a prosecutors desk somewhere, or get anywhere really. 


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
    #23417634 - 07/06/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Accusations, years later when hes in as much limelight as humanly possible. Not moments after it happened when there would've been actual evidence and more then hearsay. If all it is is a he said she said thing personally I wouldnt side with anyone, and as a judge that would result in an acquittal. Of course its highly unlikely this is gonna land on a prosecutors desk somewhere, or get anywhere really. 




A lot of the guys arrested and convicted after Operation Yewtree didn't have any allegations made against them until decades after the fact. It doesn't mean Trump is or isn't guilty, but there are plenty of cases in which somebody who seems to have genuinely abused someone doesn't get so much as an accusation until many years later.

Always the chance of political shit stirring, financial incentives and the like, but a time lapse between an event happening and it being brought into the public eye doesn't automatically rule out its reality.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Great Scott] * 3
    #23417635 - 07/06/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Total smear campaign. And Sophie is a dude looks like a lady. His version of reality is not to be taken seriously. Sorry, no offense, just being honest.




Sophie can be taken seriously on many subject matters even if I disagree with most of them. I don't think her life style invalids her credibility at all.

In fact, she does a better job representing her misguided liberal views than 95% of the people on this site. :lol:


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: rackem]
    #23417651 - 07/06/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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hillary is enept man... never mind the scandals, never mind the emails, never mind the bullshit..  do you forget that she lost 6 billion dollars under her watch as secretary of state that hasnt come to light? that may never be found?  thats a fuckload of tax payers money.



Jesus Christ, where do you people come up with this shit?


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: qman]
    #23417653 - 07/06/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Girl brains in a XY specimen denote a fundamental detachment from reality. Sorry.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23417660 - 07/06/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Accusations, years later when hes in as much limelight as humanly possible. Not moments after it happened when there would've been actual evidence and more then hearsay. If all it is is a he said she said thing personally I wouldnt side with anyone, and as a judge that would result in an acquittal. Of course its highly unlikely this is gonna land on a prosecutors desk somewhere, or get anywhere really. 




A lot of the guys arrested and convicted after Operation Yewtree didn't have any allegations made against them until decades after the fact. It doesn't mean Trump is or isn't guilty, but there are plenty of cases in which somebody who seems to have genuinely abused someone doesn't get so much as an accusation until many years later.

Always the chance of political shit stirring, financial incentives and the like, but a time lapse between an event happening and it being brought into the public eye doesn't automatically rule out its reality.




Of course that holds true for the majority of these crimes. The silence most people hold prevents the majority from ever being brought to justice. However in light of Trumps current situation Ill have to casually nail it down to political shit stirring. Why wait all this time, he's successful, has millions, yet suddenly running for president is too much. Thats when they had to draw the line and exact revenge? Thats shady as fuck.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Great Scott]
    #23417673 - 07/06/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
Total smear campaign. And Sophie is a dude looks like a lady. His version of reality is not to be taken seriously. Sorry, no offense, just being honest.



I don't know about a campaign. Apparently, this girl originally filed her suit without any counsel. Sounds like she was going it totally alone until a lawyer picked up the case.

Considering Trump dates women much younger than him, and he's known to sleep around, these allegations arent totally ridiculous, just mostly.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23417693 - 07/06/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Of course that holds true for the majority of these crimes. The silence most people hold prevents the majority from ever being brought to justice. However in light of Trumps current situation Ill have to casually nail it down to political shit stirring. Why wait all this time, he's successful, has millions, yet suddenly running for president is too much. Thats when they had to draw the line and exact revenge? Thats shady as fuck.




Yeah, it's always a hard one to gauge. I'm hesitant to make a decision either way, because being falsely accused of rape and being told you're lying when you've actually been raped are almost equally horrifying.

Generally, people who do this kind of thing do it to a hell of a lot of people, so with genuine cases you tend to get a bunch of other victims coming forward once it's been made public, but even then it's ridiculously hard to tell who's telling the truth. I'm still hoping Roy Harper didn't actually fuck a 12 year old, cause if he did I can't listen to his music ever again (and any Pink Floyd fans who care aren't allowed to listen to Have a Cigar anymore).


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23417697 - 07/06/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't listened to Pink Floyd ever since I figured out what Dark Side of the Moon was really about.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23417710 - 07/06/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23417713 - 07/06/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I haven't listened to Pink Floyd ever since I figured out what Dark Side of the Moon was really about.




That seems really random, care to elaborate? I have always felt that is their most overrated album anyways, not that it isn't good they just have so much other great stuff.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23417725 - 07/06/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I thought it was just about Syd Barrett's insanity. It did always seem a bit shitty to me that all their best albums are about the guy and none of them really bothered to help him out much. Maybe they did and I just never heard about it, though. I don't really like Pink Floyd all that much and plenty of people here will know better than me.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23417739 - 07/06/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was a big Pink Floyd fan in my early 20's but it's true, they're all (the members) a bunch of asswipes.


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Re: Donald Trump is being accused of child rape [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23417741 - 07/06/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Darkside of the Moon was about life, modern man, and the matrix. All it did was point out what's happening, but it failed to point out the way out. And the way out is through Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth, and the life.


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