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JanuaryWolf
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Mushroom Humid House 1
#23410982 - 07/04/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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 It took about a month to physically build this 15'x28' fruiting chamber. Much longer for planning . This pic doesn't show it complete, it has an air intake on the front and the trim is painted.
 We poured a slab and tried to get it to slope towards the drain in the back center. It got a little fucked but most of the water goes to the drain, saddly some goes to the back of the house.
  We welded bows of steel and mounted them on the cement.
 Used a rigid foam insulation and screwed sheet metal over the whole building.

 Ran plumbing and electric to the new building. It has a 1200BTU AC. The barrel has water and a pond fogger. Timer set for intake fan and fog to come on at the same time.
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Thanks for sharing! Looks great
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leschampignons
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Cool stuff. do you have pics of the other parts of your setup? I think I see drum sterilizers and another GH in the background of one of the pics
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Very nice...
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JanuaryWolf
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You must be talking about this picture.  This is a seasonal fruiter that was fantastic in the spring but now it's way to hot and the slugs, fungus flys and more have found it. I was getting 13 lbs of oyster mushrooms a week from this space. It's built from scrap wood, has shelves with painted wire bottoms. It's covered with greenhouse plastic, and the cooler is just like the barrel with a fan moving air over fog into the room. I'm have Reishi blocks in it right now but the pests love it and I am having trouble marketing Reishi's so it's being neglected and my focus is on filling up the new space with mushrooms people want.
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Nice room. Whats your ceiling height, and are you running misters to?
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JanuaryWolf
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 10'4 at the highest, 6' on the sides. Just spraying the room down when humidity is dropping. The fogger does not keep it high enough, the fan and fogger are on a cycle timer set to go off for 2m every 15m during the day. Going to add misters soon so I wont have to spray the floor. Humidity has been between 80% and 95%
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Gr0wer
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Looking legit as shit! That mask isn't doing shit. You need a HEPA mask, get a 3m Half face mask with P-100 filter. Luckily your spore load doesn't look too much in there so no harm done..yet. I highly recommend the following misters on a short cycle timer and use a solenoid valve to control flow. I run mine 5 seconds on every 20-40 min, then i turn it off 30-90 min before harvest and drop the fogger bucket RH to 80s. Do you have a purge line on your pail? If not, over time you water will harden and build up scale fast.
fogger http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/DIG-Drip-Irrigation-Fogger-Assembly-p/50-504-10-0.htm
you will also need a anti drip on each head http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/DIG-High-Pressure-Anti-Leak-Device-p/52-530-10.htm
timer https://www.amazon.com/Century-Period-Repeat-Timer-Operation/dp/B0184CG9K0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1467694284&sr=8-6&keywords=hydroponic+timer
valve https://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=2W20020N
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Gr0wer
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer] 1
#23412186 - 07/04/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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start the video at 1:40. Like i said im doing 5 seconds on 20-40 off and keeping RH around low 90s. With logs i had to keep it around low 80s or id see bacteria, sterilized bags can take a lot more RH without and bacteria outbreaks.
also a video on the dangers of spores including the mask i recommend, there cheap and replace the filters every 30-90 days.
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leschampignons
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23412273 - 07/04/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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sweet setup gr0wer. I haven't tuned into your most recent videos but I will be from now on
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Hey GrOwer very cool humidity control setup. Wasn't aware of those fogger and anti drip pieces. lots of useful info.
I'm curious, what is your thoughts on humidity controllers or humidistat controlled fogging versus timed?
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23412939 - 07/05/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gr0wer, Thanks for all the good info, I appreciate the links and your videos are awesome. What is the scale device that you have on your misting system?
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Following this to get it in my thread list. I'm shortly setting up an out-building as a fruiting chamber. It's smaller than yours. 12'x18' with a shed roof. I've been slowly renovating it. I'm hoping I can get it done in time to get at lease a couple grows in over the summer and fall.
Looks great JW! I love the welded structure and the pitched floor with drainage. I have room to create a pitched floor in my building but I don't have anyplace to properly drain it. I can drain it but I can't get below the frost line so I'd have to deal with freezing over the winter if it collected a lot of moisture.
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Gr0wer
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JanuaryWolf said: Gr0wer, Thanks for all the good info, I appreciate the links and your videos are awesome. What is the scale device that you have on your misting system?
It's an anti scale device from lowes designed for swamp coolers. I honestly don't know how well it works. I believe it is basically a water softener. One thing is for sure you need a 200 mesh or finer filter to prevent the foggers from clogging. Buy spare anti drip and fogger heads as you will need to replace them from time to time. The heads you can break apart and clean, the anti drips you cant.
You could use foggers to bump RH with a controller but you would probably want less foggers and not pointed at your fruits. You could locate a fogger inside your ducting or humidity pail or between rows. If you have the foggers like i do you would oversoak the mushrooms as it takes a while after the foggers activate for the RH to climb.
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"GIRL POWER" Nice job!
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SpeakSoftly
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23453742 - 07/18/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: Looking legit as shit! That mask isn't doing shit. You need a HEPA mask, get a 3m Half face mask with P-100 filter. Luckily your spore load doesn't look too much in there so no harm done..yet. I highly recommend the following misters on a short cycle timer and use a solenoid valve to control flow. I run mine 5 seconds on every 20-40 min, then i turn it off 30-90 min before harvest and drop the fogger bucket RH to 80s. Do you have a purge line on your pail? If not, over time you water will harden and build up scale fast.
fogger http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/DIG-Drip-Irrigation-Fogger-Assembly-p/50-504-10-0.htm
you will also need a anti drip on each head http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/DIG-High-Pressure-Anti-Leak-Device-p/52-530-10.htm
timer https://www.amazon.com/Century-Period-Repeat-Timer-Operation/dp/B0184CG9K0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1467694284&sr=8-6&keywords=hydroponic+timer
valve https://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=2W20020N
@Grower. Hey man, I think I'm going to get started with the misters now. Wanted to ask you about how many you would use in 420square feet? Do you think two rows of 4 would work? I have no idea really. Wanted to get your opinion before i ordered.
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MMG
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awesome build!!! looking forward to seeing this grow room packed to the gills
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Gr0wer
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With your misters mounted high you should be able to spread em out a bit. I would say one 4 head fogger every 4-6 feet. Mine are every 2' but my chamber has a lower ceiling.
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23456704 - 07/19/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, we should be hooking it up soon.
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Gr0wer
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Make sure you have a 200 mesh filter on em
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Gr0wer
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OP, how is the grow going? Any updates? That building has tons of potential.
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23904578 - 12/07/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry for the lack of updates, we've been very busy. I hooked up the misters and ran a whole house filter inline. They have been working great. Got the solenoid hooked up to this timer https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V5G2ZPG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 from Amazon that is actually working pretty well.
A pic from above of the setup most currently.

We did really well with the pinks this season.

We've been in a rut currently with low yield and contamination. Been using sawdust from a cabinet maker that isn't quite dense enough and seems to harbor mold. We're going to make the switch to hardwood pellets for the time being to see if we can improve growth and less contams. I also want to start using Soybean hulls, since you and Drake are doing so well with that technique. I've got my local feed store working on sourcing them currently.
I was thinking about possibly pasteurizing the SBH along with chopped straw then making log columns, and seeing how the oysters like that. I really want to keep up with this thread and be more involved here at shroomery. Happy growing y'all.
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Reckon soy hulls will mold unless maybe pink oyster could out run the mold? They are almost as high protein as wheat bran so..
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SpeakSoftly
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: drake89]
#23904952 - 12/07/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ahhh, I see. So that's why y'all are sterilizing. Thanks for the heads up. Well straw is messy business anyhow, I would much rather work with sawdust. Hope to find a good deal on some soybean hulls soon, should hear back tomorrow from the feed stores.
We're focusing on Blue oyster, Kings, and Shiitake for the winter.

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Looks great!
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Quadman]
#23905894 - 12/08/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How far from Dallas are you?
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SpeakSoftly
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: MorePies]
#23906213 - 12/08/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quadman said: Looks great!
Thanks Quad
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MorePies said: How far from Dallas are you?
Yo MorePies, we're in Denton just 30 miles north of Big D. Treefolkfarm.com if you want to know more, still working on the site so, not much info yet. Are you in the D?
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Gr0wer
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I get my soybean hulls from ranch way. You might need to order half a ton but latelty it seems there not as picky since ive been ordering it regularly and refering them as a source. http://www.ranch-way.com/products/grain-mixes/soybean-hull-pellets
Im paying like $15 a sack, its a bit pricey but worth the cost when its pumping out primo fruits.
Edited by Gr0wer (12/08/16 01:07 PM)
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23906970 - 12/08/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everything is looking great
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MMG
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Awesome how this build turned out, hope you have more success with the new substrates OP!
Question, what makes soybean perform better than wheat bran? From what a quick google search: The SH and the WB appeared to have, on airdry basis, 11.1 vs. 15.4% CP, 32.5 vs. 8.7% crude fiber (CF), 36.8 vs. 10.7% ADF, 0.6 vs. 0.1% Ca, and 492 vs. 92 ppm Fe, respectively. Calorie wise they're about the same with soy bean having a slight edge...
Apparently crude fiber is a factor since Soybean has about 4x more than wheat bran according to this study done on swine feed http://www.ajas.info/journal/view.php?number=21048
any experienced shroomers care to input any info/details as to why soy bean is now being regarding as one of the best bulk up supplements for shrooms? I think I might be on to something
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: MMG]
#23907279 - 12/08/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea fiber and proteins are the main reason i belive.
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23907478 - 12/08/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes you may be on to something. Livestock nutritionist use adf, ndf, cf of those number adf or acid detergent fiber is what I believe a number for mushrooms.For livestock the forage/ grain is put through an acid wash and this number represents what is not digestible ( cattle). I have a feeling that the higher adf the more digestible for a mushroom. Just theory.
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Gr0wer]
#23907559 - 12/08/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, Interesting seeing you comparing the stats MMG! Seems like fiber has to play a big roll. Makes me wonder what the fiber content is on the Alfalfa supplement I use.
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Gr0wer said: I get my soybean hulls from ranch way. You might need to order half a ton but latelty it seems there not as picky since ive been ordering it regularly and refering them as a source. http://www.ranch-way.com/products/grain-mixes/soybean-hull-pellets
Im paying like $15 a sack, its a bit pricey but worth the cost when its pumping out primo fruits.
Ouch 15 a sack.. Do you have it shipped to your door? You pay for freight? Have you done the numbers on cost vs. yield? Don't mean to bombard you with questions, if you have already discussed in a thread I'd like to know.
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Adf of alfalfa can vary tremendously. Mostly depends on stage of maturity when cut. I've seen adf from 26 all the way to 45.
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SpeakSoftly said: Wow, Interesting seeing you comparing the stats MMG! Seems like fiber has to play a big roll. Makes me wonder what the fiber content is on the Alfalfa supplement I use.
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Gr0wer said: I get my soybean hulls from ranch way. You might need to order half a ton but latelty it seems there not as picky since ive been ordering it regularly and refering them as a source. http://www.ranch-way.com/products/grain-mixes/soybean-hull-pellets
Im paying like $15 a sack, its a bit pricey but worth the cost when its pumping out primo fruits.
Ouch 15 a sack.. Do you have it shipped to your door? You pay for freight? Have you done the numbers on cost vs. yield? Don't mean to bombard you with questions, if you have already discussed in a thread I'd like to know.
Yea yields are much bigger with soybean hulls, and wheat bran is around $14 a sack so its not much cheaper than 20% bran batches. I use 40 lbs fuel pellets 50 lbs soybean 10 lbs wheat bran to fill my sterilizer to full capacity. With the 85 gal sterilizer i plan to use 2 sacks of fuel pellets 1 sack soybean then some wheatbran to get the drum to full capacity. That price is shipped to the feed store, i dont think you can get a sack of anything shipped to your door for $15. Making $400 off $20 substrate is a no brainer.
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: Quadman]
#23908137 - 12/08/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quadman said: Adf of alfalfa can vary tremendously. Mostly depends on stage of maturity when cut. I've seen adf from 26 all the way to 45.
 We pasteurize this stuff and add it to our straw logs at about 5%-10% by dry weight and it really boosts the yield vs. plain straw. We have a lot of room to improve on yield though, and need all the help we can get
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I'm down in Austin, but went to Alb, NM with someone who knows you guys. Reason I ask is because I was looking for hardwood fuel pellets and found someone in Dallas selling Heat Resource 100% oak pellets. Price was fine. Seems like you're having a substrate consistency problem and the pelleting process makes them pretty clean. I can PM you their number if you would like. If there is an Atwood's near you, they carry them as well.
Your setup looks awesome and I'd love to check it out!
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Re: Mushroom Humid House [Re: MorePies]
#23910069 - 12/09/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea yields are much bigger with soybean hulls, and wheat bran is around $14 a sack so its not much cheaper than 20% bran batches. I use 40 lbs fuel pellets 50 lbs soybean 10 lbs wheat bran to fill my sterilizer to full capacity. With the 85 gal sterilizer i plan to use 2 sacks of fuel pellets 1 sack soybean then some wheatbran to get the drum to full capacity. That price is shipped to the feed store, i dont think you can get a sack of anything shipped to your door for $15. Making $400 off $20 substrate is a no brainer.
Thanks for sharing Grower! You're a wealth to the community. Definitely worth it to roll with this recipie, if I can find it... Nobody seems to have SBH at nearby feed stores. So far nobody I talked too can order it. I have been able to locate cotton seed hulls @ $15/bag, so I may be giving those a run.
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MorePies said: I'm down in Austin, but went to Alb, NM with someone who knows you guys. Reason I ask is because I was looking for hardwood fuel pellets and found someone in Dallas selling Heat Resource 100% oak pellets. Price was fine. Seems like you're having a substrate consistency problem and the pelleting process makes them pretty clean. I can PM you their number if you would like. If there is an Atwood's near you, they carry them as well.
Your setup looks awesome and I'd love to check it out!
Sweet man, yea TA is a good guy. Please pm me that info, cause we need a steady source for pellets. Closest Atwoods is over 30 miles away.
If you're in the area, we would love to have you over. PM me
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Haven't seen TA here for a bit, have you heard how his grow is going?
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Marty Mycfly said: Haven't seen TA here for a bit, have you heard how his grow is going?
I haven't talked to him in a while, but know that he has been swamped with work. Last time I talked to him he was working like 70-80 hrs a week, so that is likely why he isn't around.
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