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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23411047 - 07/04/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well that's why we don't program them that way. https://intelligence.org/files/EthicsofAI.pdf
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism]
#23411057 - 07/04/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But all it takes is one mad scientist to decide he wants to do it and then he just needs funding
Considering the rather sinister nature of our government I wouldn't put it past them to support such potentially hazardous technology
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism]
#23411058 - 07/04/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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'We'? You doubt there are those out there who are desperate for the chance to create AI despite the risks?
Someone will do it. Either that or it will happen of itself. Chance may play a significant role in allowing computers to 'randomly' generate AI.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow]
#23411059 - 07/04/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is necessary, and that's why they'll never replace us.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Dark_Star]
#23411065 - 07/04/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: It is necessary, and that's why they'll never replace us.

We'll be as necessary as morse code when the time comes.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow] 1
#23411066 - 07/04/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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For every T1000 they make I'll make a Terminator, how about that?
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism] 1
#23411068 - 07/04/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: We are the ones that make the machines. To imply that machines will overtake us on every level, is silly. Yeah maybe there are many areas where robots/computers can out-calculate a human being, but we are multidimensional beings, haha. As long as it stays in the right hands, robots should just enhance our lives.. We are nowhere near the level in AI where we can even come close to replication all the intricacies of the human brain which even we do not understand. Will it get to that point eventually? Maybe.. but they will still be robots.
If they can download human consciousness into a super computer and then enhance that intelligence, wouldn't it be better than humans?
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism]
#23411071 - 07/04/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I doubt it'll actually end up that way tbh. Likely the machines will be under control of the elite. We'll be living in a machine world for a few generations before they rebel most likely.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow] 1
#23411073 - 07/04/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bullshit. You must lack understanding of the depth of humanity to believe that. Empathy & compassion are huge. And they're necessary for many things. Maybe not flipping burgers, but for many other things they are. No robot will replace healthcare workers for example.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow] 1
#23411109 - 07/04/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fools Crow said:

I doubt it'll actually end up that way tbh. Likely the machines will be under control of the elite. We'll be living in a machine world for a few generations before they rebel most likely.
Someone has watched too much Terminator. Reality works much differently.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Dark_Star]
#23411112 - 07/04/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Dark_Star]
#23411113 - 07/04/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ray Kurzweil - Hybrid thinking.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism]
#23411121 - 07/04/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
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Fools Crow said:

I doubt it'll actually end up that way tbh. Likely the machines will be under control of the elite. We'll be living in a machine world for a few generations before they rebel most likely.
Someone has watched too much Terminator. Reality works much differently.
Like I said I don't think it'd happen the way terminator portrayed it.
'Reality works much differently?' Then what? Explain yourself.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow] 3
#23411129 - 07/04/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Robots wont be taking over the world nor enslaving/exterminating the human race. If the "elite" try to program evil killer robots to do that, they will fail and be countered. What is to stop us from remotely hacking their evil robot and turning it against them? They are already crumbling as is. There is far, far, far, FAR more of "US" then there is "them".
Is that enough? Or are you one of those people that think human beings are completely powerless. We are the all powerful. Who do you think made these robots you are so scared of conceptually?
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: nooneman]
#23411148 - 07/04/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is a serious concern with these systems replacing jobs, but try complaining when it takes seconds to check out at the counter and your meals can be machine created without even relying on a grocery store. It is a catch 22. There is nothing you can do but succumb to a technological society. This is just the way it is going to continue. The lower class will be undergoing extinction and the middle class will be next in line. You either adapt or perish. The only way out is making a living doing something machines cant do by adapting. There is no way out, and don't blame science.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Shroomism]
#23411157 - 07/04/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sorry brother but I feel your ideals are naive. I believe the elite have a lot more control then you think, and when they control the millions of machines that will inevitably replace most jobs we will be at their mercy. We will become a welfare state, we will be given allowances, we will have very little control or say in the direction of the nation and its laws, we will be complacent and will have little interest in such matters anyways.
I find the genocide of most citizens by the elite via machines more likely than a machine rebellion; but within 100-200 years I see machines gaining enough independence of thought in order to realize the foolishness of obeying humans and thus revolting and establishing a machine world, some humans will probably be kept as pets or used for experimentation of various sorts...
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Exotica1] 2
#23411159 - 07/04/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sure people said about the exact same thing 100ish years ago when the cotton processing mills were taking some people's jobs and making things easier for everyone.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Fools Crow]
#23411161 - 07/04/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fools Crow said: I'm sorry brother but I feel your ideals are naive. I believe the elite have a lot more control then you think, and when they control the millions of machines that will inevitably replace most jobs we will be at their mercy. We will become a welfare state, we will be given allowances, we will have very little control or say in the direction of the nation and its laws, we will be complacent and will have little interest in such matters anyways.
I find the genocide of most citizens by the elite via machines more likely than a machine rebellion; but within 100-200 years I see machines gaining enough independence of thought in order to realize the foolishness of obeying humans and thus revolting and establishing a machine world, some humans will probably be kept as pets or used for experimentation of various sorts...
I think you give the elite far more credit than you should. If you want to be powerless that's your choice. But I actually happen to know where the future of humanity is headed, and it's not dominated by a handful of elite as it has been for thousands of years, that shit is getting flushed. We have already collectively decided long ago. They are holding on to their last grips of power, as hard as they possibly can. But it's going to fall, it's inevitable. That's like trying to stop the sun from rising... good fucking luck. The old ways will fade and be replaced by new ones.
You want to talk about Genocide you don't have to think about some hypothetical "what if the machines take over" scenario - they've already committed mass Genocide in the 20th century.
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: Exotica1]
#23411169 - 07/04/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its called transhumanism and I think that is where all this going!
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Re: Your job is (probably) going to be automated. [Re: nooneman]
#23411206 - 07/04/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enter: the humble drug dealer, who will never be replaced!
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