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Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer??
    #23410775 - 07/04/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What do you guys recommend to do?

I have read that using thick rubber bands work, paperclips, zipties?

Anybody have any experience?


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23410854 - 07/04/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Zipties.  Although they crinkle the hell out of the top, which I feel limits GE.


Impulse sealer are likely best, but overpriced unless you stumble upon a mad deal


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Snazz]
    #23411318 - 07/04/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've never used a sealer and I love using bags!
I just use a ziptie, and I try to source bags that have the filter a bit further down the bag from the top.
gotta put a tyvek sleeve in the mouth of each bag during pressure cooker cycle though, seal after inoculating


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23411360 - 07/04/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bags are awesome.  My XLs sourced from ET have very high patches.  The strip ones would likely be quite good.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Snazz]
    #23412836 - 07/05/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the response. I don't have any tyvek sleeves and my rye has been soaking for over 24 hours so I don't have much time to make a decision.
Is there anything I can use in place for a tyvek sleeve? If I seal them prior to pressure cooking will the filter patch act as gas exchange or will the bags blow up?


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23412866 - 07/05/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've never used a sealer and I love using bags!
I just use a ziptie, and I try to source bags that have the filter a bit further down the bag from the top.
gotta put a tyvek sleeve in the mouth of each bag during pressure cooker cycle though, seal after inoculating




tyvek sleeve in the mouth of each bag? i dont feel like ive seen this before. do you simply stuff a tyvek sleeve on top of your grains in the bag while you PC? then take it out and ziptie it when done?

i guess i can see how that would work. for some reason i thought bags could be sealed before being placed in the PC lol. that the filter patch would do enough to keep it blowing up; i guess im wrong. more research to be done before i jump into bags i suppose :p


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23412903 - 07/05/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you seal your bags first it is just gonna make it difficult to inoculate them... Go buy a tyvek painters suit from the wholmes Depot... If you make a SHIP in the bag, and planned on using a syringe to inoculate I suppose sealing them first would be fine.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23412917 - 07/05/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you seal your bags first it is just gonna make it difficult to inoculate them... Go buy a tyvek painters suit from the wholmes Depot... If you make a SHIP in the bag, and planned on using a syringe to inoculate I suppose sealing them first would be fine.




no, youre right; im G2G'ing into it. would make no sense to close it first.

i guess i just pull the tyvek out in my SAB and throw a full quart jar in the bag? seal it and move on?


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23412984 - 07/05/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's the idea...:seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23413072 - 07/05/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Except a full quart could easily do 4 bags,
or is that only edibles? Geez I'm out of practice..


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23413076 - 07/05/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have pretty huge bags. Is there a limit you guys would say to fill them? It looks like I can fit 10 pounds of rye berry in here easily.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413085 - 07/05/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have some jars that are colonized too. I didn't even think of doing a grain 2 grain...I don't have a sab or flowhood so maybe it's not a good idea. We'll I'm gunna give it a shot. I bought a spool of wire to seal the bags as the zipties were only being sold in 15 dollar packs where I'm at.


Wasn't able to find and tyvek...Gunna have to improvise or seal and inoculate prior.

The redz...have you ever used something else for a sleeve?


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413089 - 07/05/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You shouldn't be fucking with bags without at least an SAB, unless you're stabbing into them with an LI syringe but even then.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413091 - 07/05/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Tyvek postal envelope? You can't inoculate prior to PC'ing


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23413099 - 07/05/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I meant to just say seal prior to pc loc9

I shouldn't be doing bags without a sab? Yeah I guess. I do jars without a sab and do fine. I got 20 free bags with my last order so I figured I'd give em a go.

Anyway I'll let you guys know how it goes. Simmering my grains now


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413112 - 07/05/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I actually just did a round of g2g transfers without an SAB. I was just real careful of my movements and worked quickly.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413124 - 07/05/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I actually just did a round of g2g transfers without an SAB. I was just real careful of my movements and worked quickly.



:deathstar:

Make a SAB man... Cardboard box, plastic tote... Something... You can't just be doing open air g2g... The second you take the lid off of your receiving jar you most likely doomed yourself man.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23413134 - 07/05/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I do bags in a SAB. I twist the top, fold it over itself and ziptie.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23413151 - 07/05/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I also do bags in my SAB, but I have an ENORMOUS box, it works great.


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23413683 - 07/05/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

About how long should I pc them for?


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23413772 - 07/05/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I do 2-4 bags for at least 120 minutes at 20psi
longer with lower pressure


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23413787 - 07/05/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

20 psi, nice. Lol

My rocker is at 15 so I guess I'll do 3 hours. I just don't want to run out of water.

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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23414435 - 07/05/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

at least 2 hours at 15 psi


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: SpinScratch]
    #23414476 - 07/05/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:adventuretime:


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Re: Filter patch spawn bags with no sealer?? [Re: Easyriding123]
    #23414780 - 07/05/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You can use an iron with paper


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