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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: California]
#23412043 - 07/04/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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shLong said: Not that im looking down at you for feeding your bunnies weed (in fact, I find it quite funny) BUT When I was 16, me and a few friends got my Rottweiler really stoned, thinking we were funny. Mind you, this was a well trained service dog, very low key dog...Fuck dude, 10 minutes later she just fucking snapped out and killed my other dog, a smaller Springer Spaniel...Man, worst day of my life. This went on for like 10 minutes before we could get her off 
I wouldnt recommend getting a dog really baked (esp. a tough breed)...you have no idea what they're gonna experience and if they're gonna freak. Thats just my 2 cents
Cute pics though
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: California]
#23412051 - 07/04/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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California said: Holy shit, shLong.
Yeah, man... That's in my top 3, likely top 1 most traumatizing events in my life. Seeing that happen in front of me, couldn't get it to stop, and resulting in the death of my beloved dog all because I was a fucking idiot.. Fucked me up good.. Still does.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: shLong]
#23412058 - 07/04/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never heard of that happening. I wouldn't beat yourself up about it though man.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 5
#23412070 - 07/04/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope OP's acid-laden dog flips out and kills him in a frenzied 10 minute long bloodbath.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: shLong]
#23412071 - 07/04/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The other disturbing thing is how often people come up with this same stupid idea, normally pops up the the psych experience rather than here though.
I've seen plenty of dogs who like weed and beer and will come and ask for it when people smoke or drink. It's not the same as dosing an animal with psychedelics though. There's no way for the animal to understand what made it feel the way it does.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Northerner]
#23412107 - 07/04/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whilst granted it is very hard to discern my very smart very well trained collie seems to go fairly loopy when im tripping. Either she picks it through my actions or lack of and or the smell coming through my sweat glands ..... either way she always seems to enjoy tripping walks more than normal walks and effectively regreeses back to puppy like behaviour ( she is 11).
Also OP you should not be allowed to have a dog nor take lsd.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: pineninja] 1
#23412220 - 07/04/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP if you do this please document and report back to us what happened.
I wouldn't ever dose my dog (mine is too much of a scared cat, I can already see it traumatizing her), but I'm legitimately curious to see how pets would react to psychedelics.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 2
#23412249 - 07/04/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: That's not remotely comparable. Giving your dog drugs isn't the same as doing research under controlled conditions 
Yes, "controlled," meaning the animals are kept isolated in cages all their lives, and their only social interaction is when a scientist comes to perform their state-sanctioned torture. Scalding and blinding animals with acid, cutting off their spinal cord and paralyzing them, putting caustic chemicals on their skin and in their eyes rotting away their flesh, the list goes on... it's pretty clear the animal research done in the name of science is far more abusive.
Are you saying that you would approve of dosing animals with LSD if it was performed in a research lab by men and women in white coats?
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Crystal G] 3
#23412267 - 07/04/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I personally wouldn't condone using animals in research of psychedelics, and it's worth pointing out that Shulgin felt so strongly about not using animals in psychedelic research that that is the reason he began to try his drugs on himself and a close group of friends. He felt the only ethical way to test these drugs was on human subjects, and I agree.
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23412284 - 07/04/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: That's not remotely comparable. Giving your dog drugs isn't the same as doing research under controlled conditions 
Yes, "controlled," meaning the animals are kept isolated in cages all their lives, and their only social interaction is when a scientist comes to perform their state-sanctioned torture. Scalding and blinding animals with acid, cutting off their spinal cord and paralyzing them, putting caustic chemicals on their skin and in their eyes rotting away their flesh, the list goes on... it's pretty clear the animal research done in the name of science is far more abusive.
Are you saying that you would approve of dosing animals with LSD if it was performed in a research lab by men and women in white coats?
There is no reason to perform freelance animal psychedelic research.
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John Nada said: If you're gonna give a dog LSD then stop, don't do it, then kill yourself for considering it. An easier solution is to just not give pets drugs. This is one situation where the ethical choice is not only really easy, but even free. It requires zero effort or money. Just don't do it.
So people are terrible for giving a dog a drug in the hopes of giving it a unique experience and bonding with it.
Yet meanwhile all over the world all sorts of animals have been horrendously experimented on and essentially tortured in the name of science while we sit idly by.

How about we start by killing everyone who didn't do anything to stop all the inhumane animal testing that has been going on for years and probably still is.

I guess I better start with myself....

To justify this with "well animals get tested on all the time " is not only a completely different situation but it's also saying "animals who have makeup tested on them is a travesty" but since that's going on why not feed LSD to my dog" . Fuck off
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Seriously_trippin said: To justify this with "well animals get tested on all the time " is not only a completely different situation but it's also saying "animals who have makeup tested on them is a travesty" but since that's going on why not feed LSD to my dog" . Fuck off
How did I try to justify anything? I never said I approve anyone giving any animals any drugs...
How about you fuck off 
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Crystal G]
#23412327 - 07/05/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: OP if you do this please document and report back to us what happened. you're a fucking twat who won't listen to better sense being spoken here
FTFY (not calling you a twat, CG.. In case it sounded like that)
Seriously, OP and everyone else.. Please don't do this or anything similar.
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John Nada said: If you're gonna give a dog LSD then stop, don't do it, then kill yourself for considering it. An easier solution is to just not give pets drugs. This is one situation where the ethical choice is not only really easy, but even free. It requires zero effort or money. Just don't do it.
So people are terrible for giving a dog a drug in the hopes of giving it a unique experience and bonding with it.
Yet meanwhile all over the world all sorts of animals have been horrendously experimented on and essentially tortured in the name of science while we sit idly by
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Seriously_trippin said: To justify this with "well animals get tested on all the time " is not only a completely different situation but it's also saying "animals who have makeup tested on them is a travesty" but since that's going on why not feed LSD to my dog" . Fuck off
How did I try to justify anything? I never said I approve anyone giving any animals any drugs...
How about you fuck off 

So is the sentence "So people are terrible for giving a dog a drug in the hopes of giving it a unique experience and bonding with it." not approving of it? I must've gotten confused
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: wigglewak] 1
#23412442 - 07/05/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: That's not remotely comparable. Giving your dog drugs isn't the same as doing research under controlled conditions 
Yes, "controlled," meaning the animals are kept isolated in cages all their lives, and their only social interaction is when a scientist comes to perform their state-sanctioned torture. Scalding and blinding animals with acid, cutting off their spinal cord and paralyzing them, putting caustic chemicals on their skin and in their eyes rotting away their flesh, the list goes on... it's pretty clear the animal research done in the name of science is far more abusive.
Are you saying that you would approve of dosing animals with LSD if it was performed in a research lab by men and women in white coats?
There is no reason to perform freelance animal psychedelic research.
There is no reason to perform a lot of studies out there that have been funded.
Guidelines and rules for test subjects used to be very loose prior to the 1960s. The cruel experiments they conducted on children even back in the day, there is no way they would be allowed to do such a thing today.
Here is a cat being experimented on with mescaline and LSD
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LeningradCowboy said: I don't think that there will be easily other so deep dog that I would volunterily dose it. It all began with inocent kiss years ago when I did not realise that my mouth was full of paper. After that she has stolen it from people. And couple of times I have dosed both of us.
Hey do any of you have the balls to judge Mickey Hart for same thing?
You make me sick! Stupid, irresponsible, lying fuck!
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Burke Dennings said: I hope OP's acid-laden dog flips out and kills him in a frenzied 10 minute long bloodbath.
aka the Ramsay Shuffle
screw this thread, dont dose your pets 
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Re: Dogs and lsd, opinions please. [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#23412620 - 07/05/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Isn't an hour to a dog about 7?? Imagine how long a trip would feel to them!
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Opinions?
You shouldnt be allowed to own pets. Terrible thread, terrible person
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California said: Holy shit, shLong.
Yeah, man... That's in my top 3, likely top 1 most traumatizing events in my life. Seeing that happen in front of me, couldn't get it to stop, and resulting in the death of my beloved dog all because I was a fucking idiot.. Fucked me up good.. Still does.
Damn man, ive witnessed something similar upon arriving at a dog park with a pitbull vs teacup yorkie, ten minutes and the yorkie was in literal pieces and it still shakes me up a little thinking about it, i couldnt even imagine having to see that with my own dog, sorry you had to go through that
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