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First time grower, how's it looking so far?
#23410045 - 07/04/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are using a the humidifier method with coke bottles and brown rice flour and vermiculite as substrate. Humidity has been at 99% and temp at 77 degrees. Since we put them in a few days ago I have noticed a lot of fluffy white stuff which I think is a good thing. Since this is my first grow and first post, I would just like some of you experienced growers to give me your opinion on how I am doing so far. Do they look okay? We are growing psilocybe cubensis. I spent a lot of hours surfing through the web educating myself on everything before I began this journey. Your response is greatly appreciated! thank you for reading : )




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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrc123]
#23410128 - 07/04/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mrc123 said: I spent a lot of hours surfing through the web educating myself on everything before I began this journey.
During this time I assume you have heard of a SGFC and dunk and roll procedures? The aerial Mycelium that's growing is not necessarily a good thing. It could be indicator of lack of FAE. I would suggest dunking or heavily misting your cakes and rolling them in a thick layer of vermiculite. Then following this guide to reconstruct your fruiting chamber to allow for FAE. With your fruiting chamber built to spec you can throw away your hygrometer. Then mist your cakes till you see beads of water building on them. The verm will hold these beads of water creating a "micro-climate" around your cakes which holds optimum humidity levels. Eventually this will evaporate causing another pinning trigger for your cakes and then you repeat this process. No fanning needed No 95% RH needed No BS
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23410220 - 07/04/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We do have 2 1/4 inch in diameter holes in the Terrarium for FAE. Is that not sufficient? I will do the dunk and roll method now. Do I need to just get rid of the humidifier all together? Thanks for you help.
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrc123]
#23410238 - 07/04/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mrc123 said: We do have 2 1/4 inch in diameter holes in the Terrarium for FAE. Is that not sufficient? I will do the dunk and roll method now. Do I need to just get rid of the humidifier all together? Thanks for you help.
God no you need like 400 more mate on every side and top and bottom elevate the thing off the ground and add a lot more perlite
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23410267 - 07/04/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23410269 - 07/04/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The stuff you see in the bottom is vermiculite to soak up some of the moisture. I think I'm just going to do the shot gun terrarium method now with perlite.
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23410306 - 07/04/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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this follow the instructions EXACTLY (get rid of your verm at the bottom of the FC and replace with 5 inches of perlite) Get rid of the Humidifier and hygrometer Mist your cakes till you see beads of moisture etc etc
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23410361 - 07/04/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay. Will do. Thank you. I have the cakes dunked in water til tomorrow. In the mean time I will covert my terrarium into the SGFC as you suggested. I will post pics tomorrow!
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrc123]
#23410377 - 07/04/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23413244 - 07/05/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I finished setting up the SGFC. holes in the bottom and elevated. Cakes dunked and rolled misted & sitting at 99% humidity @ 75 degrees. NOT using a humidifier. Ive got my fingers crossed. There was some bruising on the cakes but I've read that it should go away in about 5 days. How long should I wait to see pinning? Growing psilocin cubensis because I heard it was a good one for beginners to start with. Thanks all!

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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrc123]
#23413273 - 07/05/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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you need holes in the top, also. ALL SIX sides.
other than that, just keep misting when they get dry. and dont over-mist, either. just mist until there are tiny TINY little beads of moisture on the surface. and you dont want the humdity sitting at 99% always, you want ti to fluctuate, which is what a proper SGFC will make happen.
so get those holes on top(ALL SIX SIDES), and that is perlite in the bottom, right? not verm? if it's perlite, then , and if it's verm, then .
good luck.
oh, and pinning can take up to 2 weeks to start happening. just be patient.
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mupetmower]
#23413337 - 07/05/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes it is perlite. Ok, Ill get those holes in the top and ill be back when I have something to share. Thx!
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrc123]
#23413440 - 07/05/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Welcome MRC123,
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago and my grow is currently starting to fruit as we speak.
I would get rid of the foil underneath the cakes and set the cakes directly on top of the lids that came with your mason jars. Set the cakes onto the shiny side of the jar lids. You will notice that there is a small border around the ring of the lid that is slightly more elevated than the inner portion of the lid. This will help make standing water flow into the cake and not just sit there. Standing water is not the end of the world...but it could possibly invite nasties into your grow.
A properly made SGFC will not need any fanning. The 1/4 inch holes drilled every two inches on ALL SIX sides of the chamber will provide enough air exchange for your cakes. An important thing is keeping them hydrated. Mist when they are dry- let the droplets evaporate-then mist again. This constant cycle will stimulate pinning.
I would also position your cakes closer to the center of the chamber in a more tightly placed configuration. Use the jar lids as your guide. The lids should be touching or very close to touching. This will provide a smaller micro-climate between the cakes and will also help keep them from drying out because they are not as close to the edge of the chamber where all the holes are.
It took my grow 2 full weeks to start pinning just like Mupet stated above. The mycelium has a mind of its own, be patient and you will see results.
Also it is important to have holes on the bottom of the SGFC. This is a two-fold idea of awesome, as it not only allows the perlite to drain - but the air will flow from the bottom of the chamber and up thru the perlite to the grow area - helping out with good humidity.
When you mist, mist the area above the chamber and let all the droplets fall on the cakes as well as the perlite and the sides of the container, I've found this helps keep my humidity high.
MOST IMPORTANT! Keep updating us with pictures and posts, these "New Grower" posts really help out the community.
All in all - good job! Keep us posted
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: lotzbetter]
#23413664 - 07/05/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lotzbetter said: I would get rid of the foil underneath the cakes and set the cakes directly on top of the lids that came with your mason jars. Set the cakes onto the shiny side of the jar lids. You will notice that there is a small border around the ring of the lid that is slightly more elevated than the inner portion of the lid. This will help make standing water flow into the cake and not just sit there. Standing water is not the end of the world...but it could possibly invite nasties into your grow.
I would also position your cakes closer to the center of the chamber in a more tightly placed configuration. Use the jar lids as your guide. The lids should be touching or very close to touching. This will provide a smaller micro-climate between the cakes and will also help keep them from drying out because they are not as close to the edge of the chamber where all the holes are.
Tin foil is fine. I use it all the time never had a problem. I think you cake position is fine as well. They will fruit anywhere in the chamber if it is constructed right.
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: lotzbetter]
#23413858 - 07/05/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lotzbetter said: Welcome MRC123,
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago and my grow is currently starting to fruit as we speak.
I would get rid of the foil underneath the cakes and set the cakes directly on top of the lids that came with your mason jars. Set the cakes onto the shiny side of the jar lids. You will notice that there is a small border around the ring of the lid that is slightly more elevated than the inner portion of the lid. This will help make standing water flow into the cake and not just sit there. Standing water is not the end of the world...but it could possibly invite nasties into your grow.
A properly made SGFC will not need any fanning. The 1/4 inch holes drilled every two inches on ALL SIX sides of the chamber will provide enough air exchange for your cakes. An important thing is keeping them hydrated. Mist when they are dry- let the droplets evaporate-then mist again. This constant cycle will stimulate pinning.
I would also position your cakes closer to the center of the chamber in a more tightly placed configuration. Use the jar lids as your guide. The lids should be touching or very close to touching. This will provide a smaller micro-climate between the cakes and will also help keep them from drying out because they are not as close to the edge of the chamber where all the holes are.
It took my grow 2 full weeks to start pinning just like Mupet stated above. The mycelium has a mind of its own, be patient and you will see results.
Also it is important to have holes on the bottom of the SGFC. This is a two-fold idea of awesome, as it not only allows the perlite to drain - but the air will flow from the bottom of the chamber and up thru the perlite to the grow area - helping out with good humidity.
When you mist, mist the area above the chamber and let all the droplets fall on the cakes as well as the perlite and the sides of the container, I've found this helps keep my humidity high.
MOST IMPORTANT! Keep updating us with pictures and posts, these "New Grower" posts really help out the community.
All in all - good job! Keep us posted 
Wtf are you on about you are new and saying get it off tin foil what everyone does? Why would you want standing water why do you think we mist and not water with a little watering can? If its sat in a little puddle of water it'll go all gooey with metabolites
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Edited by mrmazdarx9 (07/05/16 01:48 PM)
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23414091 - 07/05/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lotzbetter said: Welcome MRC123,
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago and my grow is currently starting to fruit as we speak.
I would get rid of the foil underneath the cakes and set the cakes directly on top of the lids that came with your mason jars. Set the cakes onto the shiny side of the jar lids. You will notice that there is a small border around the ring of the lid that is slightly more elevated than the inner portion of the lid. This will help make standing water flow into the cake and not just sit there. Standing water is not the end of the world...but it could possibly invite nasties into your grow.
A properly made SGFC will not need any fanning. The 1/4 inch holes drilled every two inches on ALL SIX sides of the chamber will provide enough air exchange for your cakes. An important thing is keeping them hydrated. Mist when they are dry- let the droplets evaporate-then mist again. This constant cycle will stimulate pinning.
I would also position your cakes closer to the center of the chamber in a more tightly placed configuration. Use the jar lids as your guide. The lids should be touching or very close to touching. This will provide a smaller micro-climate between the cakes and will also help keep them from drying out because they are not as close to the edge of the chamber where all the holes are.
It took my grow 2 full weeks to start pinning just like Mupet stated above. The mycelium has a mind of its own, be patient and you will see results.
Also it is important to have holes on the bottom of the SGFC. This is a two-fold idea of awesome, as it not only allows the perlite to drain - but the air will flow from the bottom of the chamber and up thru the perlite to the grow area - helping out with good humidity.
When you mist, mist the area above the chamber and let all the droplets fall on the cakes as well as the perlite and the sides of the container, I've found this helps keep my humidity high.
MOST IMPORTANT! Keep updating us with pictures and posts, these "New Grower" posts really help out the community.
All in all - good job! Keep us posted 
Wtf are you on about you are new and saying get it off tin foil what everyone does? Why would you want standing water why do you think we mist and not water with a little watering can? If its sat in a little puddle of water it'll go all gooey with metabolites
What am I on about? Well, I'm not on aluminum foil... I'm on jar lids! Which is what a multitude of trusted cultivators say to do. As for being new... sure, I don't have a million post counts - but I'm smart enough to know that a giant square of foil with a higher surface area then a jar lid is definitely going to catch more water then a lid that a cake fits perfectly on.
Use logic, the jar lid allows for many more variables to be correct then a large square of foil. The large square of foil impedes perlite to do its job, it catches more water that could possibly lead to contams and it's just messy.
Go look at the RR video and tell me what he uses... (It rhymes with Bids and starts with an "L") **** EDIT: He uses foil in his video NOT lids, my apologies!
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: lotzbetter]
#23414105 - 07/05/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lotzbetter said: Welcome MRC123,
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago and my grow is currently starting to fruit as we speak.
I would get rid of the foil underneath the cakes and set the cakes directly on top of the lids that came with your mason jars. Set the cakes onto the shiny side of the jar lids. You will notice that there is a small border around the ring of the lid that is slightly more elevated than the inner portion of the lid. This will help make standing water flow into the cake and not just sit there. Standing water is not the end of the world...but it could possibly invite nasties into your grow.
A properly made SGFC will not need any fanning. The 1/4 inch holes drilled every two inches on ALL SIX sides of the chamber will provide enough air exchange for your cakes. An important thing is keeping them hydrated. Mist when they are dry- let the droplets evaporate-then mist again. This constant cycle will stimulate pinning.
I would also position your cakes closer to the center of the chamber in a more tightly placed configuration. Use the jar lids as your guide. The lids should be touching or very close to touching. This will provide a smaller micro-climate between the cakes and will also help keep them from drying out because they are not as close to the edge of the chamber where all the holes are.
It took my grow 2 full weeks to start pinning just like Mupet stated above. The mycelium has a mind of its own, be patient and you will see results.
Also it is important to have holes on the bottom of the SGFC. This is a two-fold idea of awesome, as it not only allows the perlite to drain - but the air will flow from the bottom of the chamber and up thru the perlite to the grow area - helping out with good humidity.
When you mist, mist the area above the chamber and let all the droplets fall on the cakes as well as the perlite and the sides of the container, I've found this helps keep my humidity high.
MOST IMPORTANT! Keep updating us with pictures and posts, these "New Grower" posts really help out the community.
All in all - good job! Keep us posted 
Wtf are you on about you are new and saying get it off tin foil what everyone does? Why would you want standing water why do you think we mist and not water with a little watering can? If its sat in a little puddle of water it'll go all gooey with metabolites
What am I on about? Well, I'm not on aluminum foil... I'm on jar lids! Which is what a multitude of trusted cultivators say to do. As for being new... sure, I don't have a million post counts - but I'm smart enough to know that a giant square of foil with a higher surface area then a jar lid is definitely going to catch more water then a lid that a cake fits perfectly on.
Use logic, the jar lid allows for many more variables to be correct then a large square of foil. The large square of foil impedes perlite to do its job, it catches more water that could possibly lead to contams and it's just messy.
Go look at the RR video and tell me what he uses... (It rhymes with Bids and starts with an "L")
Who cuts foil bigger than their cake its as close to the same size as possible and how does it accumulate water like a lid will with a lip not allowing the excess water escape How does foil impede perlite any more than a lid total bs People use spare lids because they are handy and larger than the cake simple there no science in it its just convenience Stop talking shite Also what are your magical lids made of steel or aluminum same shit but with a lip and thicker I'm saying there's no real difference you shouldn't be accumulating any water to sit under your cake mist and fan not soak and swim
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Edited by mrmazdarx9 (07/05/16 03:27 PM)
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: lotzbetter]
#23414131 - 07/05/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lotzbetter said: Go look at the RR video and tell me what he uses... (It rhymes with Bids and starts with an "L")
Just went back and watched RR's Getting Started with BRF cakes and in the video he is using tin foil.
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: Sporkvirus]
#23414136 - 07/05/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sporkvirus said:
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lotzbetter said: Go look at the RR video and tell me what he uses... (It rhymes with Bids and starts with an "L")
Just went back and watched RR's Getting Started with BRF cakes and in the video he is using tin foil.
Bahhaaa
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Re: First time grower, how's it looking do far? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23414155 - 07/05/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lids vs foil is a pretty stupid thing to argue about IMO. Now if it was a choice between lids vs salted soda crackers or foil vs cedar planks I could see there being a debate.
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