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Strange growkit out of the box
    #23409345 - 07/04/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hello, recently i received my first growkit and i have questions because strange things happened! My growkit arrived 3 weeks later than it should and when i opened it to soak it with water it appeared to have a white creamy surface, it doesnt look like mycellium to me (but i can easily be wrong due to lack of experience) and i want to know if it is contaminated or something bad happened to it due to the time that took to arrive. Also lid looked to have been opened before my first use. I tried to take pictures of it after i putted it in the spawn bag. Sorry for the bad quality, my phone sucks! Thanks in advance and sorry for being the noob guy!



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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23409446 - 07/04/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Take it out of the bag so we can see how bad it is. You might already know but kits are frowned upon here as they are usually crap.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23409618 - 07/04/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Actually i am located in europe. I will post better pics sooner or later


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23409661 - 07/04/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

grow kits suck in europe too, its not just something in the air.
healthy myc wouldn't colonize verm like that, somethings fishy for sure.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: spacechildo]
    #23424838 - 07/08/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hello again, opened the bag after 7 days for air circulation as the directions suggested and manage to get slightly better pics.
pic 1

pic 2

pic 3

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pic 5


Questions
1) Is this contamination on the left edge of the box in pic 3? Its actually brown and not red, light conditions sucked
2)Are those pins in pic 5?


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23425062 - 07/08/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

1-yes
2-no
3-throw it away!


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23451881 - 07/18/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Update people! New photos and thank god CosmoKramer wasn't right and it doesnt look like it is contaminated but there are not plenty of mushrooms. Is this because they are King Cambodia which get pretty big or is it due to an error on the procedure?



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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23451885 - 07/18/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You are getting a small flush because the substrate is contaminated and because it is a MS grow

If more FAE you might have gotten better pinset too, so lets blame it on the kit itself too.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: Yerow]
    #23451912 - 07/18/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like it is flushing due to the contamination so you might get a couple more out of it but i advise you look up the PF TEK as it is quick and easy as well as being extremely cheap so even if it takes you a while to get the hang of it it would probably be under the cost of a new single grow box with postage.

I advise you to let those mushrooms in the picture mature fully and then cut the heads off when the veil breaks and put them on some al foil and put a cup over the top, it will let the heads drop the spores onto the foil and you can then fold it over on itself and put it in a baggy and use those for a MS syringe for the PF TEK.

Just make sure the foil you use is sterile so cut some squares of foil bigger then the mushroom cap and then put them in the oven or flame sterilize them with a lighter etc. Goodluck. :thumbup:


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: PanzerCubed]
    #23451915 - 07/18/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome advice thank you. Pf tek is my next step. I wont bother with growkits again. My spore syringe is on her way to me and i ve allready gathered the ingredients i need. All i need to do is keep reading and start trying. Anyway will these mushrooms be good for consumption and potent? Also are those enough for at least a dosage? I assume a mild dossage of fresh are about 15 grams right?


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23451933 - 07/18/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms are usually 90% water and 10% material so 15grams wet would equal 1.5g dry, as for if they are fine to eat i can't say. I would advise you to get some good pictures with some good lighting and post them in this part of the forum to find out what kind of contamination it is exactly so you can make an informed decision on whether or not you want to risk it.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: PanzerCubed]
    #23451941 - 07/18/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They look fine eat them or dry them then dunk the cake/tub sit in sgfc collect second flush and repeat till cake is exhausted save up all your flushes have a decent trip


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23451948 - 07/18/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those mushrooms are choking to death.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23452123 - 07/18/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

#Pastywhyte
What exactly do you mean by it? They need more air?

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Thanks for the answers and the advices. Still learning and i really appreciate that you spend time teaching noobs like me :smile:


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23452159 - 07/18/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They need a lot more air. Mushrooms need as much air as you do to be healthy. How long could you stand having that bag over your head? That's why we build fruiting chambers, because humidity is not the only thing mushrooms need. In fact humidity is secondary to fresh air.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23459436 - 07/20/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Back again with new photos. Fruits are three times more now due to a lot more air. Now i open the bag every day and i am creating a sgfc to move them. Caps are turning black in some of them and growth seems to have stopped. I guess these are abortions right? Also caps seem to have white dots. Is this normal. Genetics are King Cambodia. Last question. One looks like its moldy on the stem. Is this edible?


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23459466 - 07/20/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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these are abortions right?




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yeah they could be aborts if they stopped growing and turn black. all i see on one stem is some bruising and maybe a little myc/fuzzy feet, which his normal.

it will do a lot better once you get it in the SGFC.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: mupetmower]
    #23465581 - 07/22/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hi again, thanks to your advices fruits are doing a lot better. Unfortunately I didnt manage to put them in Sgfc. Will do it next flush. What do you think, time to harvest?


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: scarecrow14]
    #23465594 - 07/22/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hi again, thanks to your advices fruits are doing a lot better. Unfortunately I didnt manage to put them in Sgfc. Will do it next flush. What do you think, time to harvest?




there, fixed your link for that second picture, so people can zoom.

yes, most look ready. you can harvest most of the bigger ones now, or wait til more tear their veils a little more. either way is fine. it's up to you. harvest time is mostly preference.

if you want to take some prints, you can let the caps open up a little bit more. dont let them go too long, though, or you might let them dump spores all over the place.


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Re: Strange growkit out of the box [Re: mupetmower]
    #23473172 - 07/24/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Finally i harvested my first flush. 140 grams of fresh mushrooms. But it looks like my problems are not over yet. I tried to dry them using a bin and a computer fan, a mod that i found in the forum but it didnt work. So i just let them fan dry on a newspaper. They started to dry but they are having black marks all over the stem. Is this normal?

Also i transfered some of them closed in a plastic bag for about an hour because i am leaving for vacation and they turned green-black super fast. I guess this happened because they hadnt dried at all. Are they still edible? I sliced a stem and it is white. How can i transport them fresh without this happening?

After fan drying for about 2-3 hours




After my silly idea for transportation


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