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(Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well.
    #23408816 - 07/03/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, I've had my eye on a couple pins that have had a layer of white film on them. One of these pins looks like it has now grown some bacteria between the stem and the cap and damn near decapitating it. (All puns intended) So my question: Are those white shrooms covered in bacteria? Is that still safe to eat after washing or should I pick those guys and discard asap?

Side note: Looks at those beautiful clusters haha. It's my first grow so I'm pretty satisfied.

Let me know if I need to circle the pins I'm talking about.



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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: MrTurtle]
    #23408821 - 07/03/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those are dried out and aborting. You need to mist them shits. . .


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23408918 - 07/03/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh shit. Thanks. How do you know? Simply because of the white film? I've been misting lightly in fear of rotting the pins. What are some physical indications of too much/too little misting in fruiting stage?


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: MrTurtle]
    #23408946 - 07/03/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Excessive bruising, discolored caps, and no substrate glistening. Gotta keep it glistening. As long as you're using a proper sgfc just mist them directly. It should evaporate off the fruit bodies before it causes damage.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: MrTurtle]
    #23408948 - 07/03/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The white film is the tissue dying. Over misting causes the caps to go bacterial and get waterlogged. They take on a translucent look. Just mist when the water from the previous mist is gone and it will be fine.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23408977 - 07/04/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Alright. I'll mist a bit more and keep an eye on the moisture. I pulled back after it started pinning. Just curious, I've been looking into monotubs. How do they get away with no misting throughout the entire fruiting stage?


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    #23408986 - 07/04/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Monotubs function completely different to a SGFC. Sometimes a mist is needed with them as well but they typically have less FAE and the heat from the sub cycles the air, while the bulk sub provides the RH. A SGFC has the perlite supply the RH as the fresh air passes through it. Cakes also hold a lot less water than a bulk sub. Trays in a SGFC still need misting but, not as much as cakes do.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23411926 - 07/04/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, you guys were right. Gave them a heavy misting last night and BOOM:

However now there are a decent bit more irregular shrooms. Took a picture of a few to get advice on what to do with them.

This one has bacteria between the cap and stem and made the cap expand prematurely it looks like. Should I cut the cap? It looks like the veil has already broken right?


Then this one just looks pretty nasty. I assume this is an abort right? It's still safe to eat though, right?


Then this one looks like the veil broke already, way before the other ones. Should I cut the cap?


All and all not too bad, but I'm hoping to learn as much as I can for my 2nd flush. I've got a lot of room to improve haha.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: MrTurtle]
    #23411944 - 07/04/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There is no bacteria, them shits is too dry for bacteria to bloom. Poor conditions (dry) is the cause of all your current issues. Tho its amazing to watch it all bounce back. The will to live.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: MrTurtle]
    #23411947 - 07/04/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see bacteria on that first one. Looks normal to me. Sometimes mushrooms do that kinda shit. Could be genetic, or just aggressive growth.

2nd doesn't look like it's aborted, looks more like verticillium or something similar IMO. Still edible.

Last one with the veil broken. It's not going to drop spores with a veil that broke premature. I wouldn't cut it up or anything until you harvest the rest.

All in all, looks alright to me, but your next grow should go much better.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: Mad Season]
    #23412014 - 07/04/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That white isn't bacteria? It's the same shroom as the first picure in my original post if you need a different view. It looks like the exact texture as the white bacteria on my cakes and at the base of some shrooms. It also looks very different than all my other shrooms.

Not to question the mushroom guru's, I just really thought that was bacteria pushing the cap away from the stem.


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Re: (Pics) Concerned about white shroom. Showing off my clusters as well. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23412022 - 07/04/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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There is no bacteria, them shits is too dry for bacteria to bloom. Poor conditions (dry) is the cause of all your current issues. Tho its amazing to watch it all bounce back. The will to live.




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