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Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension?
#23408798 - 07/03/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are hallucinogens the keys to inter-dimensional travel?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23408914 - 07/03/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have thought about this on lsd, it kinda makes sense.
We have brain waves.
And on psychadelics we get a common brain wave mixture of alpha, beta, theta,delta ect.
But these "drugs" like mushrooms and lsd are knda like programs for of brains which are not unlike computers.
So maybe these drugs allow our brain to exand its softwere and kinda like upgrade to a new os (while under the effects of the drug (programs) and inturn input and understand new stimuli (aka new realities and or dimentions)
Lol
Pretty out there but i get the feeling of dejavu so strong when i start tripping. Like the tripping state of consciousness is so farmiliar to me and i feel like i have been thin that place millions of times. And it def feels like im like inbetween this place (normal everyday reality and that, the tripping dimention).
Anyone else?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT] 1
#23408922 - 07/03/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: nooneman]
#23408939 - 07/03/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean tech they do, they put you in the under drugs dimention.
What is reality and dimentions anyway?
They are concepts of our mind. And when we alter the mind how csn we not alter our dimention/reality.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: LuckeyMA]
#23409186 - 07/04/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well It tunes you in to a different conscious feel than everyday reality, so not a physical dimension more as so altered consciousness or you possibly could say another dimension, but its all in the brain, not the relative world I guess.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ShagadelicNeurons]
#23409190 - 07/04/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I always feel like i am in another dimension, separate from everything else. Maybe dissociated. But then again it is an altered conscious.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT] 1
#23409218 - 07/04/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ripT said: Are hallucinogens the keys to inter-dimensional travel?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: drolman]
#23409225 - 07/04/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psychedelics seem to put me in several different dimensions, while sometimes no even noticing it. I'll had moments where I've been sitting on the ring of Saturn gazing out into the endless universe, I've also been on a trip where I felt as if I were picking up frequencies some some unknown source, as well as felt as if I were shrunk down to the size of an ant and precieved what it would be like to live in an ant colony. I think psychedelics help you precieve my different types of deminsions
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23409418 - 07/04/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interdimensional ? I don't know enough about the physics or whatnot behind that to comment, but because I've had experiences on psychedelics with other people where we are seeing the exact same things, it's hard for me to not believe that we are seeing something that is actually there but our mind normally filters it out.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: poponon]
#23409427 - 07/04/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nah but I think there are truths to Carl Jung's collective conciousness theory. When you trip you have a shared experience with everyone else who has tripped before you on that drug. Your trip adds to that memorybank.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23409594 - 07/04/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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only if we use the term "dimensions" poetically.
oddly we get a sense of returning to a (home) "dimension" that is just a wee shift from our norm when we get "psychedelic" head space going.
It's so much like a place with which you are very familiar when you are there (or returning there) but of which you can barely conceive when not on psychedelics.
so words like place, space, and dimension are terrifically connecting to this "state of mind" or "mode of consciousness".
The word "tripping" also points to the sense of place or going to a place, but also to falling (as in "I tripped on that rock") into a hole or a tunnel (or dream) like Alice.
For me it hangs together when I observe that when on psychedelic: 1. moments fade more slowly, 2. sensations from consecutive moments combine into ultra sensations, 3. views from different directions combine to a sense of space that has more than 3 working physical dimensions (but are really an artifact of visual integration into space from persisting fragmentary glances). 4. and because the past is still present (lingering vibrantly), one feels like time has stopped or that one can move back and forth in time and space, and around ideas that are still forming even after they were voiced.
So I think it is all here and now with the mind modified to resonate longer with each sensation, or other brain activity (eg memory, thought, movement, image, etc.) before the brain wave/sensation fades.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23410485 - 07/04/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think. How do you know what the psychedelics are telling you is even right? A lot of people claim to attain knowledge, but the knowledge they obtain isn't really that valid. They hear voices revealing insight to them that you don't even know is true.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
#23410493 - 07/04/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is what I mean right here. I don't want to discredit your experience, but it is impossible to sit on the rings of Saturn ( did you even feel g forces?), let alone from a drug. Those rings are rocky debris traveling at thousands of miles an hour.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23410508 - 07/04/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ripT said: Are hallucinogens the keys to inter-dimensional travel?
Yep
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ulyssies]
#23410513 - 07/04/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ulyssies said: Nah but I think there are truths to Carl Jung's collective conciousness theory. When you trip you have a shared experience with everyone else who has tripped before you on that drug. Your trip adds to that memorybank.
Ahh another jungian.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Exotica1]
#23410524 - 07/04/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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meth put me in this weird dimension where everything fuckup become normal


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#23410599 - 07/04/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The bottom pic almost looks like mushrooms
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23410609 - 07/04/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23410650 - 07/04/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Dimensions" Whatever you wanna call it, psychedelics dissolve the barriers of perception that we usually cannot perceive - This creates a new "world/reality" within your own existing one.
inter-dimensional, surfing the alternate realities of your mind, whatever you wanna call it. That's what psychs do. There is an infinite amount of existing realities within our own, and no one or the other is any more or less real than any of the others.
Seeing and feeling create our reality, drug induced or not, it's still happening. It's still REAL.
The benefit is the perspective you can receive to incorporate it into your 3rd dimensional, physical living, breathing reality and no you can not "be" in another dimension until you Ascend from this one.
But I'm crazy, and delusional so don't believe me, keep your minds closed it will do lot of good.

Edited by Eclipse3130 (07/04/16 02:51 PM)
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23410664 - 07/04/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The dimension of being high, yes.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
#23410669 - 07/04/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do all "highs" fit into this one dimension?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23410672 - 07/04/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do all drugs feel the same?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
#23410674 - 07/04/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No? Your turn to answer
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23410678 - 07/04/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There ya go.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
#23410680 - 07/04/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I asked if all highs fit into one dimension, all you did was ask me a question which has no correlation
so.. if all highs don't feel the same, do they all fit into this one dimension? If not than you are saying there are more dimensions than just one
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23410700 - 07/04/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dunno man I was having fun.
I do believe in multiverse type ideas but I don't think drugs magically take you somewhere outside of this reality under the filter of drugs. Maybe under the premise of being tied to other dimensions drugs can blur the lines in this reality to other realities, but objectively trying to proof it seems impossible to me.
These ideas fall under spirituality imo. If you believe it and it makes you happy go for it, but if you're driving yourself crazy trying to find god then it's probably a good idea to calm down.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
#23410713 - 07/04/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, well said. I do believe that's what psychedelics do is that "magic" of taking you out of this reality and showing you the infinite possibilities of the universe, and within your self. How could you explain what you perceive than if it's anything short of magical/mystical? You can't there are no words to explain the un-explainable, just a sense of being, awareness, and feeling.
We are becoming and adapting 4th and 5th dimensional aspects into our beings, especially as we approach new, habitable planets in our solar system, the 5th especially and 6th dimensions are where the notions of possible world(s) arises
If it makes you happy, and is making you a better, more open loving person than I guess that's a good thing
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23410716 - 07/04/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: keep your minds closed it will do lot of good.
Speaking of that where did my beer go..?
*looks around
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
#23410720 - 07/04/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: I dunno man I was having fun.
I do believe in multiverse type ideas but I don't think drugs magically take you somewhere outside of this reality under the filter of drugs.
Who said it was magical?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23410723 - 07/04/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: keep your minds closed it will do lot of good.
Speaking of that where did my beer go..?
*looks around
Omg haha, classic.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23410725 - 07/04/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The word Dimension is often misused.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Universe]
#23410733 - 07/04/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel most people just shun this stuff off because there isn't the proper terminology yet, it can't be fully proven yet and people are scared of going "crazy" in their society and want to think they are remaining "sane" within their group and circle of family/friends so they just continue to live 3 dimensionally, not incorporating anything they've been shown from Psychedelics, instead they think they are just "High"
You're missing out, i'm sorry. it's time to "Awaken" and catch on to what it is really trying to show you, maybe do it by your self in nature so you can actually listen to what it wants to tell you, use it as a tool instead of using it to just get "high" but you are entitled to do your own thing and make your own choices, that's the best thing about life, just realize each choice you do make will lead you down the next pathway in your life.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
#23410758 - 07/04/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no. So, I would not be surprised if it turned out for instance, that DMT actually does show you another dimension of some sort, but I don't think that the evidence is convincing, since the simplest explanation is that no, it's just a journey through your psyche or the Jungian collective unconscious or what have you
either way, it's pretty cool and ought to be looked into
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Universe]
#23410762 - 07/04/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean the way I look at it is that they do take me because why not? What reason is there for a chemical to not be able to take your consciousness to somewhere else? I mean don't these things effect our consciousness? Something that we barley understand btw...why can't they take them real places as well as delusional places too?
I mean if there ever was something that you could take and it lets you see in another dimension or transverse into another dimension wouldn't that thing be psychoactive? Wouldn't it HAVE to be something psychoactive in order to do that? I mean what kind of non psychoactive thing will take your mind to another realm or dimension? What would that even look like?
If there ever was something that could take your consciousness to a higher dimension or other reality it would be a drug. What else could it be? And why not psychedelic drugs? A group of drugs that are very different from other traditional "drugs" and mostly just effect the consciousness which we don't even really understand. We know more about space then our own oceans and we know more about our own oceans than consciousness.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no.
That is not true. From a practical point of view the answer would be no one knows. There is no evidence pointing in the direction that it's not.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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If you've ever been through a psychedelic voyage you would know that there is an infinite, endless and limitless amount of possibilities in the universe, you would realize this within your self - and to say anything is neither fact nor false without the right technology and science available to study is just plain ignorance. It's important to keep an open mind for this reason, none of you want to put your thoughts and time into what can't be proven yet, and that's reasonable.
But the people who do, are a step ahead of the rest or are completely delusional and insane, you probably are thinking delusion and insanity is a frowned upon thing, well of course it is if it's effecting your life negatively and the people around you, but what if it's a positive force in your life, what if delusion and "insanity" is just your mind expanding, to the infinite and endless possibilities of the universe, the realization that we are all one, connected in some way or another.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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Ezuma said: I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no.
That is not true. From a practical point of view the answer would be no one knows. There is no evidence pointing in the direction that it's not.
no, no one can know but functionally is something is not proven or indicated it is NOT practical to consider it a possibility. Burden of proof is on those who assert, and we have a pretty good model for explaining the psychedelic experience without appealing to higher dimensional beings. I need evidence or I'm not buying it
same as god, ghosts, anything.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
#23410794 - 07/04/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's not how the scientific approach works.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23410797 - 07/04/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do you expect to prove it either? I don't expect ants to be able to prove it and same goes with humans.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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So instead, you keep a closed mind to information that can't be proved, so you really won't put any belief into anything, even if you see it happen, and feel it happen, if it can't be proven is essentially what you are saying.
If you saw a UFO come down land right in front of you, you would not believe what you saw because you can't prove it. This is what you are saying. Does that seem like a reasonable way to think?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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AuroraBorealis88 said: That's not how the scientific approach works.
oh really?
I'm not saying the possibility shouldn't be discussed or explored, I'm just saying the validity of the claim has yet to be determined in any meaningful way, and it contradicts our current paradigm so it is not very sensible to suggest it has any value as that value has not been earned.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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I've been presented with enough evidence to believe it but that doesn't mean I'm claiming it as fact I'm just making a guess as to which is more likely and through my experience the transdimensional/hyperdimensional view seems like the more likely one. And there's no reason it shouldn't be...I mean it's in the experience itself anyways. Doesn't take a pro analyst to see.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
#23410813 - 07/04/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: and it contradicts our current paradigm
You're joking
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
#23410814 - 07/04/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really don't think that's an optimal way of thinking, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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No fucking shit it contradicts it. Everything about psychedelics does. That's kind of the joke of the universe if you haven't picked that up yet lmfao
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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AuroraBorealis88 said: No fucking shit it contradicts it. Everything about psychedelics does. That's kind of the joke of the universe if you haven't picked that up yet lmfao
I think most of these people here just take drugs to get "high" lol they aren't interested in anything consciousness expanding.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Eclipse3130 said: So instead, you keep a closed mind to information that can't be proved, so you really won't put any belief into anything, even if you see it happen, and feel it happen, if it can't be proven is essentially what you are saying.
If you saw a UFO come down land right in front of you, you would not believe what you saw because you can't prove it. This is what you are saying. Does that seem like a reasonable way to think?
no I think you should keep your mind open to new information, and your model of reality should always be provisional. This is a problem in science to be sure, but if we totally ditched the rigidity science would not function effectively.
however, just because a human experiences something does not mean their experience holds much weight. I'm sure there is a lot more to reality than we can even understand, but the idea is to maximize our understanding in the context we are familiar with to make better decisions and function effectively. That means whatever current paradigm exists is likely far from the 'reality' (if there is such a thing) of the universe, but it should be the most effective working model we can construct. Science has taken us pretty far in terms of understanding, though it has its limits, and I would choose a scientific and reductive approach over hazy thinking any day
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: and your model of reality should always be provisional.
It seems you've forgotten that bit
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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Well said and respected.
But.. your experiences shape your reality. That's all I have to add.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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Ezuma said: and it contradicts our current paradigm
You're joking
no I'm not joking
our world model is probably full of tons of holes, but its more functional than any previous model of the world. I'm not saying psychedelics are absolutely not tuning s into other dimensions
I'm saying there isn't enough evidence to support that over the more traditional view that they 'simply' turn one's gaze inwards
either way it is clear psychedelics have a profound effect on the mind, I just don't see what about hyperspace makes it clearly not a mental creation
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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No one said hazy thinking either. This stuff isn't so black and white bud
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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Ezuma said: and your model of reality should always be provisional.
It seems you've forgotten that bit
not at all, I'm ready to change my model when it proves inadequate or when contradictory evidence shows up (I actually hope it does because I really love ghosts and hyperspace elves and all those awesome things)
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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How is hyperspace a mental creation? There's no reason to assume that or any of what you're saying. There's no evidence to support your opinion.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Eclipse3130 said: Well said and respected.
But.. your experiences shape your reality. That's all I have to add.
oh yes, for sure. On a societal level there's the problem of contradictory experiences, and it is expedient, perhaps unfortunately, to dismiss the most far-out outleirs but as an individual for sure, far more of our understanding is emotional too than many of us would like to admit (I'm sure I'm wrong about most things in fact )
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma] 1
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I personally think its inevitable to show in the future, scientific evidence that is, probably by 2020. If you look at the past, the present, you can get a good idea for a prediction of the future, you can even create your own future. You are the creator of your reality.
You are aware of the information though, and that's all that really matters. We just don't want to be the ones that said we told ya so 
I will remain an "outlier" to society, and personally "ahead of the pack" in my mind until something proves or disproves my beliefs, and in the reality of it, that is my reality.
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Eclipse3130 said: I personally think its inevitable to show in the future, scientific evidence that is, probably by 2020. If you look at the past, the present, you can get a good idea for a prediction of the future, you can even create your own future. You are the creator of your reality
In a way the future is really the only thing you can control. You can't control the past and you can't fully control the present. The only thing you have compete control over is the future.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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AuroraBorealis88 said: How is hyperspace a mental creation? There's no reason to assume that or any of what you're saying. There's no evidence to support your opinion.
the simplest hypothesis should be examined first. We know the mind exists, we know people exist, we know our experience can be shaped by chemical alterations which have no apparent affect on the outside world. We do not know that alternate dimensions exist, we do not know that they can be contacted, understood, or inhabited, and we certainly -so far- have no way of telling if these experiences are 'real' whatever that means,
I tend to think there probably is something to them, but currently the easiest explanation -and in my mind it isn't inadequate in explaining the phenomena- is that it is a product of the mind
I agree you can't 'know' with certainty that the hallucinations aren't real, in the same way you can never 'know' anything except that you are conscious. However, to have any kind of ability to function in day to day life -assuming one wants to- at a certain point one has to make assumptions. That's just my opinion tho
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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I'm not really determined for you guys to be wrong btw, I'd like for you to be right, and I think given time and more experimentation our current models will prove inadequate and have to be adjusted, as they constantly are.
certainly while under the influence one tends to feel that hyperspace beings are very real by the same token, beings in my dreams often seem convincingly real (perhaps the two are related, perhaps not.) I'd just like to see more research into these areas personally
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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First off there's quite a bit of evidence to support that these experiences are "real" if you actually see how they work on the brain. It lowers the filters and dissolves biological mechanisms in the brain put there for our survival.
Second off there is evidence that alternate realities/dimensions exist.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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I've never had an experience with "beings" so I cant really understand that aspect of psychedelics, I've also never taken a "heroic" dose so I'm sure they reside there. But I do keep an "open mind" and dont discredit the people who do experience them, I just have no personal experience so I can't comment.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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I've only encountered them once, and they got pissed at me and told me to fuck off ha
they are very believable though in the moment, in my case they were these seemingly vast amoeboid beings filled with internal light of constantly shifting colors , they looked a lot like the artwork for the radioehad album 'In Rainbows'
I got the sense they were sleeping though and my intrusion rudely woke them
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
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People describe them as "star trek visions".
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Eclipse3130 said: I've never had an experience with "beings" so I cant really understand that aspect of psychedelics, I've also never taken a "heroic" dose so I'm sure they reside there. But I do keep an "open mind" and dont discredit the people who do experience them, I just have no personal experience so I can't comment.
When I saw beings they literally looked like the first thing that pops up on Google images when you type in 'hyperdimensional beings'
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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I do t necessarily feel like I'm chiming into another dimension but I feel we are losing the filters to reality and are seeing the true nature of existence. It's like how the human eye can only precive a small amount of light in the full spectrum but maybe while on psychedelics our brain opens up certain filters and senses that allow us to really see the world to the point of where our energy may be the only part of us that is able to "see" . Where maybe you're able to astral project themselves kinda like how they know atoms are connected and one can be influenced by another atom from across the universe. Sorry if I sound like I'm rambling. I have a very hard time putting words to the feeling you get from psychedelics.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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So the question is how do we harness LSD for physical dimensional travel?
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And how can I volunteer for the voyage?
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
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Has anyone read steven kings the jaunt? I believe that is similar to what we must do, only instead of simply being unconscious, we must be ready for the dimensional travel spiritually, with LSD or DMT
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
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I've always wanted to try and eat lsd or mushrooms with someone who is in another country and both meditate and maybe try connecting with that person through each others energies. Then afterwards explain each others trips.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23412371 - 07/05/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats not entirely correct (the simplest explanation) that we know other dimentions do not exist.
It is commonly accepted in physics that if you went into a black hole you would travel to a new universe (dimention) so the theory is quite plausible that other dimentions exist.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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Reality is just what you percive, and that's only possible with the chemicals, senses, consciousness in the being, I know for a fact my reality is totally different from an ants, so imagine an ants reality, surrounded by giant beings and different creatures and colours, if they percive those things, a bit like being on psychedelics
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: sbc1]
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Definitely agree^
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ShagadelicNeurons]
#23412648 - 07/05/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's many experiences on psychs that I can write off by saying it's simply the result of the way the brain interprets stimuli being skewed... Increased pattern recognition, creating seemingly intricate creations where previously it went unnoticed...
But when you go deeper, some very strange and convincing phenomena occur, seeing 'energy fields', and just some absolutely incredible things that make me think "How could this possibly be just a product of my brain being whacked out..."
I think it's something that needs to be properly studied, Unfortunately due to the subjective and ineffable nature of psychedelics, this is a near impossible task; in the countless years of psychedelic use the only 'evidence' we have for the existence of 'other' (as opposed to it all being a product of the mind) is websites and hippies touting what could be called spiritual woo.
I can relate to so much of it, but none of it could be called objective or scientific. Having said that, subjective experience is 'real' to the subject and if it has a positive impact on life then
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#23412890 - 07/05/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shut up you fucking idiots. If you're taking psychedelics and you don't know everything is a frequency of consciousness/love why don't you find some other stupid ass subculture to take a ride through and think you're cool.
Reality is a multidimensional wilderness.
Everything is encoded in everything else.
Mushrooms are the planet's mind's perspective on everything.
Sorry but I'm at the end of my tether with ignorance. It's very obvious, all of what I say, if you take psychs. You just don't trust your experience, but then you "come back to reality" and trust that experience. Egghead.
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beforethedawn said: Shut up you fucking idiots. If you're taking psychedelics and you don't know everything is a frequency of consciousness/love why don't you find some other stupid ass subculture to take a ride through and think you're cool
And judging by this response you're on a negative frequency of that love right now, maybe take a step out of the rabbit hole until you can reply in a non aggressive manner
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: beforethedawn]
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I trust my experiences with psychedelics it's just how I feel while on them. The only time I could say I had any sort of other dimensional travel was on 10 g of mushrooms it feltike i was floating through the universe watching time unfold a d seeing stars and galaxies form in front of my eyes. It's impossible to put the proper words to an experience. It's hard to say that it is dimensional travel when we have no real previous first hand knowledge or experience without taking a substance or strong meditation to reach that point.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
#23413464 - 07/05/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well first you have to define what "another dimension" is. Is our own subjective precieved reality "another dimension" from objective reality? If we alter our brain chemistry to reorganize sensory information and possibly precieve new sensory information, is that "another dimension"?
Of course any sane person would say no to these questions, but since other dimensions are nothing more than mere concepts, altering our perecptions of reality are as close as we can get to other dimensions. If you are an idealist who believes ultimate reality is just mental constructs, than each one of our subjective experiences is a separate dimension that all collectively make up the totality.
This is whats great about psychedelics. I dont think what you experience on them is any more or less real than sober reality, but what they do is expose how subjective our sober experiences really are, and how far from objective reality we probably are. Even science, which is the best tool for measuring objectiveness we have, makes a lot of sacrifices so we can interpret it. Basically we are totally far away from objectiveness and will most likely never come close to it
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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SonicTitan said: I do t necessarily feel like I'm chiming into another dimension but I feel we are losing the filters to reality and are seeing the true nature of existence. It's like how the human eye can only precive a small amount of light in the full spectrum but maybe while on psychedelics our brain opens up certain filters and senses that allow us to really see the world to the point of where our energy may be the only part of us that is able to "see" . Where maybe you're able to astral project themselves kinda like how they know atoms are connected and one can be influenced by another atom from across the universe. Sorry if I sound like I'm rambling. I have a very hard time putting words to the feeling you get from psychedelics.
"Psychedelics let you see true reality XD"
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
#23413695 - 07/05/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's disrespectful, just judging by comments Sonic has got more benefit from using psychs than you have, at least his mind is open and pondering possibilities..
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's easy to see through the people who use psychedelics for growth/tools for them selves and the people who just think its a drug that has no meaning and take them to get "high" and see pretty colors. I think you may fall into the latter.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23413706 - 07/05/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That doesn't mean some opinions aren't flat out stupid and undeserving of respect
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23413720 - 07/05/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And no, i recgonize the self growth that can be obtained from psychedelics because they allow for a massive shift in perspective and allow you to see how you affect others. But ultimately they're just chemicals playing with your own chemistry. They are not a path to some ultimate universal truth.
God, Tim Leory is probably the most toxic thing that ever happened to psychedelics.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
#23413831 - 07/05/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's your opinion, and I respect it I'm not going to shun it or say it's stupid because that'd be disrespectful, the first thing you should of learned from Psychedelics is respect. Maybe when you realize even any opinion can give you a new perspective be it good or bad, is when you will start taking it as one
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
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God damn man, you are so fake. You clearly are pretending to "respect" my opinion to support your own argument. Psychedelics have never forced me to repect shitty opinions and I'm not going to start respecting racism because "all opinions must be respected"
Throughout history we've seen that change through respect has never worked. If we just "respected" the nazis, im sure they just would've backed off
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
#23413934 - 07/05/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20994748/fpart/1/vc/1
^This was an amazing post I read on here one day about a guy giving a friend of his that was blind from birth DMT. It is a wonderful read. Check it out.
I have seen perfect geometry in everything around me. I've seen the web of life. I have seen the light. I feel we are all connected. I don't know many things for sure, but I think that psychedelics tune us in more, open us up more sensually, and if that means that we are climbing higher dimensionally, maybe ...
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: DopesToInfinity]
#23413978 - 07/05/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your entire perception of reality is a subjective mental perception. Our experiece of existence is purely a construct of our mind. Seeing the "web of life" is merely seeing your brains construct, your brains way of categorizing and interpreting reality.
As far as the blind guy goes; that was a very fascinating and incredible experience, but completely explainable through biology. Psychedelics act directly on the brain and obviously have direcy imapct on your visual cortex. In normal sober experience, your friends visual input receptors (his eyes) dont work, but via bypassing the eyes and directly interacting with his visual cortex, psychedelics are able to make him internally experience colors. Remeber, even though colors appear external, they are in fact internal by vitute of the fact all of our experiences are internal.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
#23414101 - 07/05/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soz can I just apologise for the "shut up you effing idiots" part
Get righteous when pissed off
Have some psychological issues, yeah
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jbrowning134 said: And no, i recgonize the self growth that can be obtained from psychedelics because they allow for a massive shift in perspective and allow you to see how you affect others. But ultimately they're just chemicals playing with your own chemistry. They are not a path to some ultimate universal truth.
God, Tim Leory is probably the most toxic thing that ever happened to psychedelics.
I don't follow tim Leary or any other psychedelic enthusiast. These are all from my own experiences. Of course it's just chemicals making us feel that way, but what if that state of mind is where you're able to find these concepts and maybe answers to what you were looking for. Remember the man who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was on lsd at the time. He saw it in a vision, so was that just an illusion or did he actually see into what reality really is? Like I said, we can only precive so much through our eyes and min d so maybe while on these drugs we are able to have a deeper connection to our physical world. Noone knows the answers so stop acting like you do hahaha.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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SonicTitan said: Remember the man who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was on lsd at the time. He saw it in a vision, so was that just an illusion or did he actually see into what reality really is?
No, he did not. Stop mindlessly spouting this acient discredited meme. This is the posion of misinformation. Psychedelics do not improve your connection with pysical world and make you magically see how biological chemistry works. I can't believe I even have to say that. The greatest strides in science of all time were made with a sober rational mind, not while tripping on a fucking hallucinogenic drug
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Acideater69]
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SonicTitan said: Remember the man who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was on lsd at the time. He saw it in a vision, so was that just an illusion or did he actually see into what reality really is?
No, he did not. Stop mindlessly spouting this acient discredited meme. This is the posion of misinformation. Psychedelics do not improve your connection with pysical world and make you magically see how biological chemistry works. I can't believe I even have to say that. The greatest strides in science of all time were made with a sober rational mind, not while tripping on a fucking hallucinogenic drug
I read that sorry bud, diddnt see the meme online. I'm not saying every discovery was while tripping on a drug that would be fucking retarded. Most scientist are extremely straight people. I'm not mindlessly spouting shit, its what I thought happened from what I read. I will always take constructive criticism and use it to progressively learn from my mistakes. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence I'm just trying to have a discussion and read what other have to say. There's nothing to be angry about. I totally understand your opinion and i do agree with you and how you view psychedelics to an extent , it's just that I can't say for certain that I know what happens to me on those drugs. So I just put the best words I can use to describe the overall experience.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: beforethedawn]
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beforethedawn said: Soz can I just apologise for the "shut up you effing idiots" part
Get righteous when pissed off
Have some psychological issues, yeah
haha
Can I just informally warn you for that post then, and hope you never post like that again?
I have issues too.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Rose]
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I think it's ridiculous when people confidently say "it's just drugs messing up your brain chemistry" or anything like that. Who the fuck is anyone to say that adding chemicals to the bubbling cauldren of chemicals we call our brains is not real, that it is to be disregarded as just "drugs". No one truly knows what goes on with these so called drugs. Real is such a fragile term.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Bomb Diggity]
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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SonicTitan said: Remember the man who discovered the double helix structure of DNA was on lsd at the time. He saw it in a vision, so was that just an illusion or did he actually see into what reality really is?
No, he did not. Stop mindlessly spouting this acient discredited meme. This is the posion of misinformation. Psychedelics do not improve your connection with pysical world and make you magically see how biological chemistry works. I can't believe I even have to say that. The greatest strides in science of all time were made with a sober rational mind, not while tripping on a fucking hallucinogenic drug
I read that sorry bud, diddnt see the meme online.
Francis Crick.
He did take LSD but apparently not until way after the DNA double helix was already discovered, it's a bit sad the amount of times I see this being posted here.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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Thanks for the clarification man. I never really did alot of research into Francis Crick so when I read that I thought it was pretty fascinating. I should brush up on my reading I guess. Tend to read more about physics than anything else it seems.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: SonicTitan]
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Even though Crick didn't discover the structure of DNA while on LSD, I think it's worth noting that many famous scientists and creators have attributed their use of psychedelic drugs as an important or major contributing factor to their success. I believe that by using these drugs we can expand our consciousness in such a way that allows us to conceive novel concepts and ideas.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: poponon]
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For me only the natural psychedelics give me the feel of other dimensions. Well only the three I've tried being Mushrooms, DMT, and Salvia send to me other places. Maybe I haven't done high enough doses of acid but on acid I feel like I'm usually within the network of the human mind alone. Mushroom trips I often call visitations while on the trip because it feels like my mind is an open field literally everything looks spacious and wide and I feel like the barriers of my mind have been pushed down and all types of spirits are free to fly within my mind and take me to new places possibly the network of all life? I've seen crazy things on mushrooms. My last trip with my eyes closed I was on an alien planet that had a city with culture and a society unlike anything I've ever seen before. I believe that we are fragments of everything, we are molecules, and atoms and we are constantly dying and being reborn since our cells constantly die every day. It is to me entirely possible for a molecule to flip the switch in your brain and show you a new reality or dimension if you will.
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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: LiquidVisions]
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