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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23410664 - 07/04/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The dimension of being high, yes.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23410669 - 07/04/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do all "highs" fit into this one dimension? :lol:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23410672 - 07/04/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do all drugs feel the same?


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23410674 - 07/04/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No? Your turn to answer :smile:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23410678 - 07/04/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There ya go.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23410680 - 07/04/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I asked if all highs fit into one dimension, all you did was ask me a question which has no correlation :confused:

so.. if all highs don't feel the same, do they all fit into this one dimension? If not than you are saying there are more dimensions than just one :lol:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23410700 - 07/04/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno man I was having fun.

I do believe in multiverse type ideas but I don't think drugs magically take you somewhere outside of this reality under the filter of drugs. Maybe under the premise of being tied to other dimensions drugs can blur the lines in this reality to other realities, but objectively trying to proof it seems impossible to me.

These ideas fall under spirituality imo. If you believe it and it makes you happy go for it, but if you're driving yourself crazy trying to find god then it's probably a good idea to calm down.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23410713 - 07/04/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, well said. I do believe that's what psychedelics do is that "magic" of taking you out of this reality and showing you the infinite possibilities of the universe, and within your self. How could you explain what you perceive than if it's anything short of magical/mystical? You can't there are no words to explain the un-explainable, just a sense of being, awareness, and feeling.

We are becoming and adapting 4th and 5th dimensional aspects into our beings, especially as we approach new, habitable planets in our solar system, the 5th especially and 6th dimensions are where the notions of possible world(s) arises

If it makes you happy, and is making you a better, more open loving person than I guess that's a good thing :smile:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23410716 - 07/04/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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keep your minds closed it will do lot of good.





Speaking of that where did my beer go..?

*looks around


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23410720 - 07/04/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I dunno man I was having fun.

I do believe in multiverse type ideas but I don't think drugs magically take you somewhere outside of this reality under the filter of drugs.




Who said it was magical?


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410723 - 07/04/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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keep your minds closed it will do lot of good.





Speaking of that where did my beer go..?

*looks around



Omg haha, classic. :lol:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410725 - 07/04/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The word Dimension is often misused.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Universe]
    #23410733 - 07/04/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel most people just shun this stuff off because there isn't the proper terminology yet, it can't be fully proven yet and people are scared of going "crazy" in their society and want to think they are remaining "sane" within their group and circle of family/friends so they just continue to live 3 dimensionally, not incorporating anything they've been shown from Psychedelics, instead they think they are just "High"

You're missing out, i'm sorry. :lol: it's time to "Awaken" and catch on to what it is really trying to show you, maybe do it by your self in nature so you can actually listen to what it wants to tell you, use it as a tool instead of using it to just get "high" but you are entitled to do your own thing and make your own choices, that's the best thing about life, just realize each choice you do make will lead you down the next pathway in your life. :smile:


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: ripT]
    #23410758 - 07/04/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no.
So, I would not be surprised if it turned out for instance, that DMT actually does show you another dimension of some sort, but I don't think that the evidence is convincing, since the simplest explanation is that no, it's just a journey through your psyche or the Jungian collective unconscious or what have you

either way, it's pretty cool and ought to be looked into


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Universe]
    #23410762 - 07/04/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I mean the way I look at it is that they do take me because why not? What reason is there for a chemical to not be able to take your consciousness to somewhere else? I mean don't these things effect our consciousness? Something that we barley understand btw...why can't they take them real places as well as delusional places too?

I mean if there ever was something that you could take and it lets you see in another dimension or transverse into another dimension wouldn't that thing be psychoactive? Wouldn't it HAVE to be something psychoactive in order to do that? I mean what kind of non psychoactive thing will take your mind to another realm or dimension? What would that even look like?

If there ever was something that could take your consciousness to a higher dimension or other reality it would be a drug. What else could it be?
And why not psychedelic drugs? A group of drugs that are very different from other traditional "drugs" and mostly just effect the consciousness which we don't even really understand. We know more about space then our own oceans and we know more about our own oceans than consciousness.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23410771 - 07/04/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no.




That is not true. From a practical point of view the answer would be no one knows. There is no evidence pointing in the direction that it's not.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410772 - 07/04/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you've ever been through a psychedelic voyage you would know that there is an infinite, endless and limitless amount of possibilities in the universe, you would realize this within your self - and to say anything is neither fact nor false without the right technology and science available to study is just plain ignorance. It's important to keep an open mind for this reason, none of you want to put your thoughts and time into what can't be proven yet, and that's reasonable.

But the people who do, are a step ahead of the rest or are completely delusional and insane, you probably are thinking delusion and insanity is a frowned upon thing, well of course it is if it's effecting your life negatively and the people around you, but what if it's a positive force in your life, what if delusion and "insanity" is just your mind expanding, to the infinite and endless possibilities of the universe, the realization that we are all one, connected in some way or another.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410789 - 07/04/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I like to entertain this notion, and I think it is possible, however from a logical/practical point of view no.




That is not true. From a practical point of view the answer would be no one knows. There is no evidence pointing in the direction that it's not.




no, no one can know but functionally is something is not proven or indicated it is NOT practical to consider it a possibility. Burden of proof is on those who assert, and we have a pretty good model for explaining the psychedelic experience without appealing to higher dimensional beings. I need evidence or I'm not buying it

same as god, ghosts, anything.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23410794 - 07/04/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's not how the scientific approach works.


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Re: Do you think drugs tune you into another dimension? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410797 - 07/04/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How do you expect to prove it either? I don't expect ants to be able to prove it and same goes with humans.


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