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I don't think I like mushrooms.
    #23407950 - 07/03/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Tripping now.


Like many, I had never had mushrooms until I grew my own. The body buzz makes me feel terrible. The pupil dilation means I can't read my phone unless I cross one of my eyes. I look fucking retarded. Shrooms don't even have the effects I thought they had. Some colors are sharper and brighter sure, but this paranoia is just tough man. I'm trying very hard to find the enjoyment in these things, but it just isn't happening. I've tried going outside, jacking off, just nothing. Trying to slam a few beers to snap out of this. I don't really know why I'm posting this. Maybe some others can offer some insight.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23407977 - 07/03/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

tells us about your set and setting prep


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23407978 - 07/03/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They aren't for everyone, or everyone would take them.

What kind of dosage did you take?

The good news is that even if you really just do not enjoy them, it will be over in a few hours.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23407983 - 07/03/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey, not all drugs are for all people man. Perhaps tryptamines are not your thing, perhaps not psychedelics at all? I prefer phenethylamines personally. I'm very partial to stimulants but I tend to get outa control on those and stay up for days and days, so I try to avoid them as best as possible.

It's all part of the journey brother!

Taste all the sweet richness of life, keep with what you like and what serves you well, and do away with the rest!


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23407989 - 07/03/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What was your dose, I find a dose too low boring, but one too high uncomfortable. Maybe you should do some titration, or at least tell us how much you ate lol


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23407992 - 07/03/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Does not require effort.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23407994 - 07/03/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shrooms is too much of a mindfuck for a lot of people. It doesn't let you take control the way LSD does. It's alright, man.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23408000 - 07/03/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm abit negative I guess. I make less than 10 dollars an hour. I like smoking weed but my connect just moved away. Been out for a day. Think that may play a big role in this particular trip. Wish I had some weed. I don't have many hobbies. In fact, my growing is my "primary hobby"

I'm not terribly good at any particular things. I can't play guitar, work on cars, etc. don't have literally any friends. Am very much a home body. I'm very bored in life. I think I have ADHD to be honest. May go to the doc soon over that. No ambition. I'm the smartest person I know, yet again like I said, I don't make shit for money. Own my home. Double wide, nothing fancy. Don't terribly like my home. Wish I had better furniture etc. just bored ya know. Being 21 with no ambition other than to smoke pot and drink beer sucks. I'm smart enough to see that, yet not smart enough to do anything with that. Every day is the same. Smoke weed drink beer go to bed. Wife is a booty. Never gives me any.

Hate this sense of never ending boredom. Even if I had more money I don't know what I'd do with it. I have zero interests in life.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408007 - 07/03/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I also don't have a scale. Which sucks a lot. Whatever 2 regular mouthfuls of dried shrooms would be. Just a small pile in the palm of you hand. Which actually, weighs more than I thought. I used a buddy's scale once and was very surprised that just a few shrooms was an 8th. I may have ate too much. I also eat them once every 4 days or so. Never had them till I grew them. So I've been eating a good bit. When I go out to say Walmart or something, all the neon colored shit really pops. But just sitting here at home, I feel quite depressed.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408012 - 07/03/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, well there you go, your 'set' wasn't right.

Always remember man, before ingesting psychedelics, ensure your 'set' (mindset) and 'setting' (surroundings) a pleasant and clear. I been through some major shit in the past 2 years of my life, head was all over the place, and I didn't touch psychedelics for a year. Which is a looooooonnng ass time for me.

Just make sure you work on your stuff away from the drugs and come back to them with a clear head. I guarantee 100x more enjoyment.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408025 - 07/03/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you sound like me man. no friends, always bored, I don't have a woman though. haven't in years. I'm getting tired of this "normal life" I think eventually ill just get so fed up with being depressed day in and day out that ill just say fuck it and hit the road. my job is a customer service based job and I get talked to like shit every day. I want to just go Rambo on everyone at work. my anger is a side effect of my depression and that sucks too. I hate how my life is going right now. it truly fucking sucks. tripping used to be such a blast. my old friends and I would have the time of our lives. it was so "magical" (dont mean to sound gay). nowadays I hardly trip. haven't smoked weed in a while. just drink a few beers and the occasional whipits. getting tired of this "normal" life we are supposed to lead.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23408027 - 07/03/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not freaking out going crazy having a terrible trip or anything, but man these mushrooms are really making me reflect on just how unhappy in general I am. I even almost feel like crying. I kind of feel like a waste. I have a son and wife who need me to be the man, yet all I wanna do is smoke weed and drink. The simple answer is to just stop. But theres underlying issues I don't know the answers to causing me to do these things. I don't know why I drink every day, but I do. I'm so bored with just living. Not to alarm anyone, I'm still gonna be here tomorrow and the next day and so on, but fuck I'm bored. Could you imagine being a rockstar or a UFC fighter or some shit? That would be awesome. But instead I'm just Joe going to work everyday paying bills and waiting to die.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408040 - 07/03/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Try making changes in habits.  Going without and having significantly less builds strength.  Giving in to desire all the time whenever softens us.  Don't blow it with the wife in kids.  It's not right to expect certain results with shrooms.  They cannot be abused that way.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408045 - 07/03/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel you. whenever id trip its not like I'm freaking out going psycho like an animal, id just get so down on my self reflecting on who I am and where I'm going in life. to sum it up I just feel like a huge loser. id love to be a rockstar or even just a famous youtube channel person making 100,000's of dollars a year just from making videos, having a cool group of friends, living in cali or somewhere cool. that would be awesome man. my parents never really taught me anything when it comes to saving, making money, jobs, they just say "you need to make good money to survive" and want me to live a normal life. sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to take over your thread. I just feel like I can relate to you on some level.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408056 - 07/03/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I think you'll find in the long run that this difficult trip will serve you well. Probably better than a good one would.

I mean, who has the power to change any of these things about your life? No one but you man.

It is not a simple answer to 'just stop'. I been doing drugs since I was 14. There's no just stopping about it. I've been working with a therapist 11 months, meditating 4+ years, riding the fuck out of motorbikes 8+ years, and training like a madman 17+ years.

All this is to try and find the answer to drugs. Drugs were a given on my path. My earliest memory is jumping higher and higher off the stairs. Always found a way to change my state. It's one of the few constants in my life.

None the less, it my aggression towards it all I have found lots of coping strategies and mechanisms. It sounds like you just need some of them. For example, my life would feel so empty without these things in it:

My bikes, my gym, my tattoos. My search for spiritual truth. These things are what give my existence here meaning. They're all hard work, but worth their weight in gold.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23408060 - 07/03/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You're cool man I feel the same. My parents didn't teach me a whole lot either. But that's not to take anything away from them. They always busted their ass to make sure we had food. We never went hungry. But always were low class. Bills bills bills. They lived paycheck to paycheck, I'll probably always do the same aswel.  I'm 22 next week and still waiting on life to give me a check and say what's up. Waiting on colleges to call me. Waiting on a huge job to give me a ring. Those are never gonna happen, but that's what I expect. I keep refreshing this page just waiting on a reply. I pay 60 bucks phone bill a month, just looked at my text screen.... To talk to, my mom? No one gives a shit about me. I'm just a sad soul barely getting by. I hate this shit man.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408084 - 07/03/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

my parents were always good to me and my siblings. like you, we never went hungry and for the most part got what we wanted, within reason. as in if I wanted one of those tiny street bike things at 13 nah wasn't gonna get it. but we got shoes, clothes, gi joes, etc. my dad has a good job, my mom never went to college, he is a lot older than my mom. nearly 20 years. but even with a good job we still live paycheck to paycheck and have struggled in the past, not now though. I think it was because my folks have always tried to live above their means and never budgeted. I think my parents sort of tried to be "the cool parents". nowadays I pay for my own stuff even though I know they would pay for me but I'm not going to do that to my dad. I feel you on that man... I have an older iPhone and the only person I text frequently is my mom... she always updates me on if shes coming home, etc etc.

I have no friends these days and even the few friends I had back in high school are long gone. I never talk to them. I feel like shit every single day and when my parents ask me how my day was/how work was/I get annoyed even though I know I shouldn't. I don't want to kill myself, I get feeling of wanting to hurt other people but I would never act out on those feelings. I'm fed up with my job and I'm thinking that eventually itll just reach a point where I cant take it anymore and at that point I'm going to visit an old childhood friend who lives across the country, we talk a few times a month still and we've seen eachother around 4 or 5 times in the past 10 years. then see what its like out there and just bum around for however long. money isn't worth me feeling like this every single day.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23408246 - 07/03/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My friend you should begin the process of growing your own food! It helps you reground and start to find patience and understanding.
I love going out daily and picking fresh herbs and the occasional fruit and veggie! It is truly accomplishing especially when you build soil organically.
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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Myco Dude]
    #23408294 - 07/03/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

trip in nature with music or drumming, and try to trip with a purpose in mind, a positive productive purpose like healing, or even just the enjoyment of nature.

I am sure the shrooms will have something positive to show you, sometimes you can get into negative mindstates like you describe while tripping but there is another beautiful side to it, though its not for everyone.

mushrooms are my favorite psychedelic, i love them so.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23408632 - 07/03/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Moabfighter said:
You're cool man I feel the same. My parents didn't teach me a whole lot either. But that's not to take anything away from them. They always busted their ass to make sure we had food. We never went hungry. But always were low class. Bills bills bills. They lived paycheck to paycheck, I'll probably always do the same aswel.  I'm 22 next week and still waiting on life to give me a check and say what's up. Waiting on colleges to call me. Waiting on a huge job to give me a ring. Those are never gonna happen, but that's what I expect. I keep refreshing this page just waiting on a reply. I pay 60 bucks phone bill a month, just looked at my text screen.... To talk to, my mom? No one gives a shit about me. I'm just a sad soul barely getting by. I hate this shit man.




How you feeling now my brother? I had a powerful trip on acid tonight and am still on the tail end of the trip. I read your posts and felt touched by your words.

I just want to say man that look every single one of us is on a journey. That's all there is to it. Be proud of what you have achieved. Having a son and a wife is such an amazing thing. Don't be too hard on yourself. You are only human. Responsibilities or not.

Listen myself - I have been in the craziest mindsets going into the trips. I've felt lost, depression. But i've always had very profound and positive experiences from going into my trips. I think the environment is the most important. Shrooms will show you things that you might not want to see, but that's where you will feel the therapy from. I am sure when you come out of this tomorrow and think about what they showed you you'll feel so much better.

I mean the same words to the other persons I saw posting about how they feel about their life. Life is no easy pill to swallow for any of us. It's just a journey.... we gotta love it for what it is... ok my brothers n sisters?


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23408644 - 07/03/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Relax. You're only 22. When I was 22 I had no direction. I had failed out of two colleges. Instead of marrying me, the love of my life broke my heart. Had no idea what I was going to do with my life. I was miserable. I remember my dad saying - don't worry, you have plenty of time. I thought - yeah, right. But he was right. It wasn't until I was like 26-27 that things started to come together. Some of the best years of my life were spent miserable, but since then I've more than made up for it. Hang in there, everything changes with time.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Universe]
    #23409123 - 07/04/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like you have everything you need in life. Got a wife and kid and a mother who loves you.
It's tempting to use a lot when you first grow your own but get yourself a scale and take a week or more between.
Growing is great hobby and friends after kids seem to drift away.
Life's actually much better than we perceive it sometimes.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Headrush]
    #23409149 - 07/04/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would like to add some words of encouragement and positivoty, but everyone has already said the important things... You still are quite young.. you have a wife and a child.. you've already achieved your biological function as a human.. good job man.. now it's time to figure yourself out.. You are only 22, I am too, and am still figuring my shit out. Keep listening to yourself, to those desires.. and take action towards them.. alchemize your thoughts with willpower, to manifest them into reality, true magick in effect flowing from your essence, translated by your gut and heart.. try to ignore the doubts,  those things will keep your bored, and your magick stagnant.. you're alright brother :smile:


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23409161 - 07/04/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Save the beer money and start a hobby, anything that sparks interest.  Reading, start exercising, etc.  Anything that will boost your mood and your outlook on life.  Spruce up the house a little and make it joyful to live in.  Then your setting and mindset will be a lot better and the trip way more enjoyable.  Like others said, maybe it just not for you.  Good luck on finding what makes you happy.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: drolman]
    #23409165 - 07/04/16 02:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wait till you get to 30. That's when the problems start:grin:


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Paul_Bab]
    #23409174 - 07/04/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wait till you get to 30. That's when the problems start:grin:



QFT man. Fuck. And it's not just you & I - I have a couple of great friends in their 50's that say the same thing - you hit 30 and WHAM! All of a sudden you realise just how good your 20's actually were...


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23409184 - 07/04/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't mean to go full hippy mode but look into Zen Buddhism; familiarize yourself with its teachings, while on and off of psychedelics. I can truly say it has put myself at peace spiritually and emotionally. Pay attention to the teaching instead of just shrugging it off. I can honestly say, it has helped me become more grounded and appreciate the small things in life.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23409204 - 07/04/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't you see the reflection of yourself which you don't like is actually an opportunity presenting itself for you. A choice to change all these things and make you happy eternally.
That's the gift from the mushroom.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Devoswitch]
    #23409214 - 07/04/16 03:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't you see the reflection of yourself which you don't like is actually an opportunity presenting itself for you. A choice to change all these things and make you happy eternally.
That's the gift from the mushroom.




Looking into my own eyes while tripping is always an intense thing for me; I stare straight into my pupils and can only describe it as locking eyes with a fierce unpredictable animal looking back at me. That might just be me though.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23409270 - 07/04/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Devoswitch said:
Don't you see the reflection of yourself which you don't like is actually an opportunity presenting itself for you. A choice to change all these things and make you happy eternally.
That's the gift from the mushroom.




Looking into my own eyes while tripping is always an intense thing for me; I stare straight into my pupils and can only describe it as locking eyes with a fierce unpredictable animal looking back at me. That might just be me though.



I do this frequently. I see someone I love looking back at me (there is a fierce warrior in there too; several people have told me over my years I have a 'warriors heart'). I mean this not in an arrogant sense; rather that I care deeply for my own wellbeing and happiness, and want to know myself as deeply as it is possible to know oneself.

Only if one knows the truth of love,
which is the real nature of Self,
will the strong entangled knot of life be untied.
Only if one attains the height of love will liberation be attained.

Such is the heart of all religions.
The experience of Self is only love,
which is seeing only love,
hearing only love,
feeling only love,
tasting only love
and smelling only love,
which is bliss.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23409572 - 07/04/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You trip every four days....
That's your problem.
Give it at least a month in between and you'll be so blasted you'll feel great.
Every time I take mushrooms with a tolerance I end up like you. Depressed.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23409899 - 07/04/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

First off this is stupid. I don't even know why people who have never done mushrooms bother growing them when they don't even know if they'll like them. I've never grown them but they are hands down the best drug on earth so I can see myself doing it. I have yet to find a drug more eye opening and euphoric as mushrooms.

I've never gotten paranoia from shrooms that sounds terrible. Only drug that ever made me paranoid was ketamine and pot. Sometimes shrooms will make me feel a little apprehensive or pessimistic in the beginning but that's only the beginning. By the comedown it is literally the most euphoric thing.
And for me the body high is amazing, better than the best ecstasy.

No offense but if shrooms don't have the effects you thought they had maybe you should have done some real research.

Pupils dilation making you not able to read your phone? Ok I'm not going to even pretend like that makes sense because it doesn't....you shouldn't even be using your phone when on tryptamines anyways...

Jerking off on shrooms to make the experience better is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, even dumber than drinking beer to make it better. Mixing it with alcohol is very unwise.
Sorry to be so blunt.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23409909 - 07/04/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

pretty good troll^^

get out of here dude.


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    #23409912 - 07/04/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Chase me out honey. Sorry the truth hurts.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23409929 - 07/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need.

I am the same way.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410025 - 07/04/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need.

I am the same way.



No, you give people what YOU think they need. Which, judging by your post above, is probably exactly what THEY don't need.

Psychedelics don't have an ego. You do. So leave off the preachy shit huh?


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23410182 - 07/04/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

To me someone having an ego is them thinking they're better than others but I don't. I mean you can say I'm cold cruel and whatever but it makes no sense to say I have an ego problem because that would imply that I think highly of myself which I definitely do not.

I don't sugar coat the truth. Don't see how that means I'm egotistical.
He does need to hear it sorry. Sorry sorry sorry.

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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410201 - 07/04/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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First off this is stupid. I don't even know why people who have never done mushrooms bother growing them when they don't even know if they'll like them. I've never grown them but they are hands down the best drug on earth so I can see myself doing it. I have yet to find a drug more eye opening and euphoric as mushrooms.

I've never gotten paranoia from shrooms that sounds terrible. Only drug that ever made me paranoid was ketamine and pot. Sometimes shrooms will make me feel a little apprehensive or pessimistic in the beginning but that's only the beginning. By the comedown it is literally the most euphoric thing.
And for me the body high is amazing, better than the best ecstasy.

No offense but if shrooms don't have the effects you thought they had maybe you should have done some real research.

Pupils dilation making you not able to read your phone? Ok I'm not going to even pretend like that makes sense because it doesn't....you shouldn't even be using your phone when on tryptamines anyways...

Jerking off on shrooms to make the experience better is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, even dumber than drinking beer to make it better. Mixing it with alcohol is very unwise.
Sorry to be so blunt.





Lol this fucking guy.


Who grows shrooms before trying them? A lot of people. They're not exactly flooding the streets with availability. I've never seen them before outside of what I grow. Pupil dialation doesn't make your up close vision much blurrier? Sorry but you're wrong. Very wrong. A simple google search will tell you that.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23410212 - 07/04/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pupil dilation making vision blurry? Lol what the actual fuck. If anything it's the opposite and it's the stuff in the background that's burry, what's closest to me though generally gets very HD.

You have a point about growing them but why are you so interested in them if you didn't even know what they did? From the sound of it you didn't do enough research on the effects.

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    #23410216 - 07/04/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And if you get "paranoid" then your set is likely not where it should be. You know about set and setting right?


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410243 - 07/04/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The ego is a system of neural connections that serve as an operator/operating system.  It is hard to merge the ego into a dissolution and dose is a big part of the equation.  Just slowly munch on some good home grown fungus over several hours then smoke a joint when you could swear you are sober.  It's a big surprise and nothing to hang on to fear into.  Everything we experience is simply a chemcial pretreatment for our next experience. 


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    #23410251 - 07/04/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The ego is a system of neural connections that serve as an operator/operating system.  It is hard to merge the ego into a dissolution and dose is a big part of the equation.  Just slowly munch on some good home grown fungus over several hours then smoke a joint when you could swear you are sober.  It's a big surprise and nothing to hang on to fear into.  Everything we experience is simply a chemcial pretreatment for our next experience. 




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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23410252 - 07/04/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need.

I am the same way.



No, you give people what YOU think they need. Which, judging by your post above, is probably exactly what THEY don't need.

Psychedelics don't have an ego. You do. So leave off the preachy shit huh?



Not sure if the "preachy shit" was aimed directly at "Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need." But if so, and not to go too much off topic; would you kindly expand on this?

Also, to the OP - I believe the notion of Psilocybin curing depression (used as a catch all here not implying depression) would suggest one has to be somewhat unconsciously dissatisfied/unfulfilled in their life to then be able to become conscious of said unfulfillment. Imagine carrying this unconscious baggage without the existence of Psilocybin (of course there are arguably others) to show you the baggage? You say you think you don't like mushrooms, but I'm leaning towards you don't like what the mushroom is showing?

Also, if its of any addition; I read all the replies on here and resonated quite strongly with others and yourself. Potentially, and its exceedingly speculative on my part; I think there could be a unconscious unfulfillment in everyone's life that could well be a buried deep phenomenon for the most part of everyones psyche, explaining why people wouldn't like what the mushroom shows. Hell; people don't even like associating/thinking about personal baggage (if they're conscious of it) mushrooms aside, let alone coming face to face with the realization on a high dose of a psychedelic.

I think one of my main points here may well be the fact that many people would come to the conclusion you have? Albeit, without such a pessimistic perspective. I think it's where we go from here that begs the question.

If you have no interests maybe you lost how to create them? I believe most interests are somewhat created, having finding less and less interesting as I get older in my own exp, but I believe there's hope. Not sure what you/anyone else will take from this but I think it's important to note my earlier trips could be explained similarly to the conclusion you came to in a few replies after initial thread, but as time has passed, the trips are more a reflection on it is what it is, and that - is what's enjoyable, especially if in that state you can accept it, playing victim rarely ends well, especially if its passive and buried away.

You mentioned you think you may have ADHD, which is interesting. Can I ask where this thought stemmed from, since you put it quite blunt? Maybe you have grown accustom to becoming too (not meant as a negative) over analytical and are finding holes in everything? I know I'm throwing my perspective in, but I understand the thought of you're the smartest person you know (to paraphrase).

I think this would be a very interesting thread to follow, unless its been overly covered before and has escaped me; I'm thinking it may be an existential crisis of some variety.

Sorry if this came off negatively or pedantic.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23410256 - 07/04/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sir are you talking about the biological mechanism known as your sense of self?


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: shroomlowie]
    #23410274 - 07/04/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not sure if the "preachy shit" was aimed directly at "Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need." But if so, and not to go too much off topic; would you kindly expand on this?




I think he was just referring to the way I presented my opinion lol. I don't care though because that's just being real. I shouldn't have to pander to anyone, people deserve the truth unfiltered whether they like it or not.


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You say you think you don't like mushrooms, but I'm leaning towards you don't like what the mushroom is showing?





^^^This here was basically my point about giving you not what you want but what you need. To me it doesn't seem like he dislikes mushrooms more so just dislikes the place he is in life right now.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410293 - 07/04/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just get sad everytime I take psychedelics now. I have tripped for almost 5 years, no idea where this came from. I won't even be sad before I trip, but maybe I am just sad deep down. I don't even have a reason for being sad, I have a nice life, people I love and who love me. But that is the main reason why I am not actively looking to trip much more this summer.

Normally psyches shed insight on my problems, but this time, it seems like they just create a problem I don't normally have.

I am always very in-tune with others and the Earth. So one my guesses is that the Earth and it's people are sad and I just pick up on the vibe while tripping.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: Smawrpg]
    #23410322 - 07/04/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I just get sad everytime I take psychedelics now. I have tripped for almost 5 years, no idea where this came from. I won't even be sad before I trip, but maybe I am just sad deep down. I don't even have a reason for being sad, I have a nice life, people I love and who love me. But that is the main reason why I am not actively looking to trip much more this summer.





Just out of curiosity does this happen to you mostly on LSD or other psychs? I've noticed LSD to be an almost kind of "sad" psychedelic and fairly poignant.
Psilocybin for me though is a very effective anti-depressant both chemically and psychologically.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410330 - 07/04/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not sure if the "preachy shit" was aimed directly at "Psychedelics don't give you what you want they give you what you need." But if so, and not to go too much off topic; would you kindly expand on this?




I think he was just referring to the way I presented my opinion lol. I don't care though because that's just being real. I shouldn't have to pander to anyone, people deserve the truth unfiltered whether they like it or not.


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You say you think you don't like mushrooms, but I'm leaning towards you don't like what the mushroom is showing?





^^^This here was basically my point about giving you not what you want but what you need. To me it doesn't seem like he dislikes mushrooms more so just dislikes the place he is in life right now.



Text-based communication can be pretty hard to show in which light the comment is intended I guess lol, but that aside; if OP was to dislike what it shows, and one was to like what it shows - where would the difference be? Would it be the egos reflection? I've heard many psychedelic speakers say, and I'd agree; they're not meant to be enjoyable, they're gonna bring up things you don't like, they're gonna make you question things, it's pretty much their heresy.. so how does this become enjoyable per se? My thoughts are, from my experience; it's the personal integration you implement upon receiving what you do off a psychedelic trip that's enjoyable/beneficial, where respect for a psychedelic is gained. Almost as though you should look at them as a teacher, when you can learn of their nature and gain more experience the trips can be felt so much more harmoniously instead of negativity due to a resistant force.

I guess my stance would be to not do it for enjoyment purposes and then complain they're not enjoyable (which is not what OP has done by any means) I just think OP is a good example to where the trips self-realization properties can be anxiety inducing.

Also, since we're all here, why is "set" so important if only the conscious mind state is visible? What when something is threw up that's been buried/detached from? When sober, things are much easier to ignore than when on a psychedelic, so my point would be where is the line in making sure "set" is ok? If anyone cares to answer and implies you need a good "set" to enjoy the trip can I ask why they'd be used recreationally anyway?

Hard trips have gave me the most beneficiaries. Although, I very much appreciate everyone is different, hence my set question.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: shroomlowie]
    #23410405 - 07/04/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Text-based communication can be pretty hard to show in which light the comment is intended I guess lol, but that aside; if OP was to dislike what it shows, and one was to like what it shows - where would the difference be? Would it be the egos reflection? I've heard many psychedelic speakers say, and I'd agree; they're not meant to be enjoyable, they're gonna bring up things you don't like, they're gonna make you question things, it's pretty much their heresy.. so how does this become enjoyable per se? My thoughts are, from my experience; it's the personal integration you implement upon receiving what you do off a psychedelic trip that's enjoyable/beneficial, where respect for a psychedelic is gained. Almost as though you should look at them as a teacher, when you can learn of their nature and gain more experience the trips can be felt so much more harmoniously instead of negativity due to a resistant force.

I guess my stance would be to not do it for enjoyment purposes and then complain they're not enjoyable (which is not what OP has done by any means) I just think OP is a good example to where the trips self-realization properties can be anxiety inducing.

Also, since we're all here, why is "set" so important if only the conscious mind state is visible? What when something is threw up that's been buried/detached from? When sober, things are much easier to ignore than when on a psychedelic, so my point would be where is the line in making sure "set" is ok? If anyone cares to answer and implies you need a good "set" to enjoy the trip can I ask why they'd be used recreationally anyway?

Hard trips have gave me the most beneficiaries. Although, I very much appreciate everyone is different, hence my set question.





When it comes to someone not liking what it shows in contrast to someone actually liking what it shows I don't think either one should matter matter because my opinion is not based necessarily on how much I like what it's showing me at the time.  I think how the ego feels about the trip is almost entirely invalid if even valid at all.
A lot of trips I don't even really appreciate and grow from until after it's over or it doesn't seem "good" until after the trip is gone.

Either way the trip is never really fully gone we're in it right now and taking the psychedelic just makes us notice it more and brings us into it more which is what I think the OP's problem was. He wasn't in the right mindset and all the shrooms probably did was amplify and augment his consciousness until if became more than subliminal and controlled.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is OP is not particularly fond of the the trip he's in right now and something like LSD or mushrooms which intensifies this already existing trip of his he doesn't like what he is presented with.

In terms of what you're saying I think it comes down to what do people think the purpose of the experience is. Do they think it's serious? ascetic possibly? Or are they just trying to get something that will give them what they want instantly?
They could also just be taking it to just mess around and have a wild time in which then disclosing of some unhappy personal info may not be so revered and analyzed by the individual.


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Re: I don't think I like mushrooms. [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23410561 - 07/04/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I apologize for being an asshole before. I think I get what you're saying now. Maybe it's not the mushrooms fault. I think as a human, I simply an unhappy right now, and the mushrooms just bring my unhappyness to the forefront. Maybe if my mental state was better, the mushrooms would Improve my happy feelings. But being generally unhappy, the mushrooms make it worse. Maybe I need to make some life improvements before I try tripping again.

Thank you everyone for the input and help.

Sober today, and feel fine. Although I know deep down I'm not fine. I can manage, sober, but Last night really showed me how truly unhappy I am.


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    #23410577 - 07/04/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I apologize for being an asshole before. I think I get what you're saying now. Maybe it's not the mushrooms fault. I think as a human, I simply an unhappy right now, and the mushrooms just bring my unhappyness to the forefront. Maybe if my mental state was better, the mushrooms would Improve my happy feelings. But being generally unhappy, the mushrooms make it worse. Maybe I need to make some life improvements before I try tripping again.

Thank you everyone for the input and help.

Sober today, and feel fine. Although I know deep down I'm not fine. I can manage, sober, but Last night really showed me how truly unhappy I am.





And that is the wisdom that you attained from your trip. Mushrooms will always show you exactly what you need at the right time. Take it as an opportunity to improve on your self! :smile:

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I apologize for being an asshole before. I think I get what you're saying now. Maybe it's not the mushrooms fault. I think as a human, I simply an unhappy right now, and the mushrooms just bring my unhappyness to the forefront. Maybe if my mental state was better, the mushrooms would Improve my happy feelings. But being generally unhappy, the mushrooms make it worse. Maybe I need to make some life improvements before I try tripping again.

Thank you everyone for the input and help.

Sober today, and feel fine. Although I know deep down I'm not fine. I can manage, sober, but Last night really showed me how truly unhappy I am.




Hey man I was the asshole lol it's alright. I was just trying to also give a different answer than the others I was hearing but the ones adressing your set was as you probably now see may have been accurate.

I would just try your best to improve your place now, like improve this trip you're in right now so you can be prepared to go more into your trip later. Going more into your "trip" will tell you more about yourself.

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    #23410596 - 07/04/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I just get sad everytime I take psychedelics now. I have tripped for almost 5 years, no idea where this came from. I won't even be sad before I trip, but maybe I am just sad deep down. I don't even have a reason for being sad, I have a nice life, people I love and who love me. But that is the main reason why I am not actively looking to trip much more this summer.

Normally psyches shed insight on my problems, but this time, it seems like they just create a problem I don't normally have.

I am always very in-tune with others and the Earth. So one my guesses is that the Earth and it's people are sad and I just pick up on the vibe while tripping.




It's probably the thoughts that lead you to emotion, if you are truly not sad in your self, if you feel truly fulfilled in your life and full of love and light and the mushrooms bring out sadness, it's probably due to what you are thinking about, your mindstate changes over the years, you are probably more so focused globally now than your self.


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