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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Masked]
    #23408070 - 07/03/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #23408076 - 07/03/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not about "being offended". It's about recognizing that racial and class disparities are manmade. People get taught wrong about this shit for the most part, sorry to say but it's true. Race relations in this country are shit and people need to understand what's been going on and how we got here and what it means. It's... y'know... education. I know, it's radical, but that's what schools were originally for.

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"racial disparities are manmade"

Being black is "manmade", interesting. 

"Racial relations in this country are shit"

Thanks to Obama and his racist attitude.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: qman]
    #23408079 - 07/03/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My childhood was totally replete with waspy upper middle class whiteness. When i went to college, none of my friends were white, and i learned so much just from all the different perspectives and life experiences from talking to them, and i feel that my values and views have fundamentally changed for the better as a result. It's very stifling to only interact with people just like you. Look at japan, that country is xenophobic and racist as fuck like most asians because they have zero interaction with anyone outside of their ethnicity.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 3
    #23408080 - 07/03/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Idk what schools you went to but I've had private schooling for most of my life and my education has been very eurocentric. All my history classes were only about western history and all my literature classes was english and american literature. It wasn't until college when I explicitly took a class in eastern religion and philosophy or modern middle eastern history was it any different. :shrug:




I went to public school.  I never learned anything about European history except for as it relates to the slave trade, colonization and other terrible acts.  Otherwise it was all about the oppression of Blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans in America.  This does a disservice to all races and peoples.  Because just as whites are not exclusively oppressors and shouldn't be defined that way, minorities should not be defined as the oppressed.  There is more to minority culture and history than just being trampled on by the white man's boot, but that doesn't fit the narrative so its never taught.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 2
    #23408088 - 07/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey, why teach kids anything? They'll figure it out.




This tell us why brainwashing children about "white privilege" is more important than learning reading, math and science?


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23408091 - 07/03/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Look at japan, that country is xenophobic and racist as fuck like most asians because they have zero interaction with anyone outside of their ethnicity.




Not sure I understand your point here, Japan is weird but they're successful and have been disproportionately so in light of their relatively small population. Their wars with Korea, China and Russia are impressive; even their performance against America was impressive.

The US is absurdly diverse and the most powerful nation in history.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: qman]
    #23408092 - 07/03/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In fact, colors are manmade. It's a construct that reflects our uniquely human characteristics of perception more than anything else. If you saw in a slightly different spectrum, they might look the same. Have you ever compared skin tones of people on acid, BTW? I notice that the difference in skin tone looks a lot less exaggerated than it does normally. I think there's a certain cultural obsession that exaggerates the illusion of difference for us. Cultural differences are learned.

Here is an article, outlining the science of how humans invent the colors they see. I don't think it mentions race, so you might be able to get through the whole thing without lapsing into hysterics.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: DieCommie]
    #23408095 - 07/03/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Idk what schools you went to but I've had private schooling for most of my life and my education has been very eurocentric. All my history classes were only about western history and all my literature classes was english and american literature. It wasn't until college when I explicitly took a class in eastern religion and philosophy or modern middle eastern history was it any different. :shrug:




I went to public school.  I never learned anything about European history except for as it relates to the slave trade, colonization and other terrible acts.  Otherwise it was all about the oppression of Blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans in America.  This does a disservice to all races and peoples.  Because just as whites are not exclusively oppressors and shouldn't be defined that way, minorities should not be defined as the oppressed.  There is more to minority culture and history than just being trampled on by the white man's boot, but that doesn't fit the narrative so its never taught.




Well i agree with you there. I think all history should be taught--white, black, yellow, brown, red whatever--with no bias towards who was better and who was evil, etc, just the facts, and the students can make their own conclusions.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23408105 - 07/03/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Look at japan, that country is xenophobic and racist as fuck like most asians because they have zero interaction with anyone outside of their ethnicity.




Not sure I understand your point here, Japan is weird but they're successful and have been disproportionately so in light of their relatively small population. Their wars with Korea, China and Russia are impressive; even their performance against America was impressive.

The US is absurdly diverse and the most powerful nation in history.




Yep. Nationalism is definitely "impressive." Racism and intolerance of the other has been at the root at a lot of conflict in the last century. I think we've done very well because we're better integrated than most but we can always be better and greater.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23408126 - 07/03/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

first of all how dare you


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 8
    #23408140 - 07/03/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Good for them. People need to be exposed to these concepts in early childhood, or they grow up into oversensitive adults who get all defensive and butthurt whenever somebody brings up their privilege.

(cough, cough)




Let's separate all trans people, put them in a separate room than the normals, tell them they should be ashamed for who they are and give the normals special privileges and treats. This is the type of society you want to live in?

My bad I thought all human beings were basically equal but I guess some are just genetically superior?
You do realize this is the literal textbook definition of racism.. right?


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Shroomism]
    #23408159 - 07/03/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You know, I'm going to be honest with you, I have literally no idea how you got all that from what I said.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #23408167 - 07/03/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good. It's probably for the best.
But seriously.. institutionalized racism. So I guess the archetypes are true right.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23408170 - 07/03/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Institutionalized racism is teaching colorblindness on one hand and an overwhelmingly Eurocentric lesson plan on the other. If you read between the lines, the message goes: "whites did everything that matters."


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23408182 - 07/03/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yep. Nationalism is definitely "impressive." Racism and intolerance of the other has been at the root at a lot of conflict in the last century. I think we've done very well because we're better integrated than most but we can always be better and greater.




I'm more concerned with their achievements and quality of life, than how open they are to outsiders. Conflict is inevitable, and not necessarily a bad thing.

Yeah I agree, things could be much better.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23408201 - 07/03/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In fact, colors are manmade. It's a construct that reflects our uniquely human characteristics of perception more than anything else. If you saw in a slightly different spectrum, they might look the same. Have you ever compared skin tones of people on acid, BTW? I notice that the difference in skin tone looks a lot less exaggerated than it does normally. I think there's a certain cultural obsession that exaggerates the illusion of difference for us. Cultural differences are learned.

Here is an article, outlining the science of how humans invent the colors they see. I don't think it mentions race, so you might be able to get through the whole thing without lapsing into hysterics.




Completely disagree. Color is a natural phenomena, and not one limited to humans.

History from across the world has noted examples of our ability to discern between distant ethnic groups.

As far as tripping goes, are you sure you're not colorblind? Not long ago I was on LSD playing soccer with a group of Turks, and lose no perception of their ethnicity.


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23408211 - 07/03/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

it's a private school with only 430 students, if you don't like it then don't spend an obscene amount of money to send your kids there.

I think there are still states that teach creationism in public schools which is way more insane and detrimental


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #23408238 - 07/03/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not about "being offended". It's about recognizing that racial and class disparities are manmade. People get taught wrong about this shit for the most part, sorry to say but it's true. Race relations in this country are shit and people need to understand what's been going on and how we got here and what it means. It's... y'know... education. I know, it's radical, but that's what schools were originally for.

:themoreyouknow:




You are fucking stupid. Race relations have gotten worse since this "white guilt" bull shit has been shoved down our throats. It teaches minorities, specifically black people, that they can talk as much shit about white people as they want without being racist, but when white people try to defend themselves they're "insensitive" or "oblivious to their privilege" or simply racist in general. It doesn't matter if it's a rich black person talking to a homeless white man, the white guy is still "privileged." Fuck that. People changed the definition of racism just so they can flip it against white people and absolve themselves of responsibility. All this shit has done has created a bunch of white people who are actually starting to become racist as a result of it, and a bunch of entitled minorities who think all their problems are the white man's fault. I bet you're a huge Buzzfeed fan aren't you?


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #23408245 - 07/03/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Institutionalized racism is teaching colorblindness on one hand and an overwhelmingly Eurocentric lesson plan on the other. If you read between the lines, the message goes: "whites did everything that matters."




In the US, they did. :shrug:


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Re: NYC School teaching kindergartners about white priviledge and anti-white propaganda [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23408262 - 07/03/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Race as a social construct exists whether anyone agrees whether it exists biologically or not and it should be addressed early in people's lives.





it's biological, not a social construct, you can call it that all you want but it
doesnt make it so, and in agreement with you that differentiating between races
isnt a bad thing, what is is teacking them racist horse shit like white privelege


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