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Panaeolus cinctulus id
    #23407022 - 07/03/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Habitat:
In a pasture on cow excrement in the shade in a field where cows were kept up until a week or two ago

Gills:
Brown, mottled with black spots

Stem:
Brown-red with lighter colored powdery coating. ~2.5 in

Cap:
Conical, flaring outwards at margins. Light brown and dark brown (zoned).

Spore print color:
Spore print being done currently - will update (currently looks jet black but it's not pronounced enough to say with absolute certainty

Bruising:
None

Photos:




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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407035 - 07/03/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It was found in Vermont also


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407097 - 07/03/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Here are some more photos (including spore print):


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407108 - 07/03/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407276 - 07/03/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The spore print is indeed jet-black (I can provide pictures of the darker spore print but it has absolutely not hint of brown)


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407578 - 07/03/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Spore print:


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407652 - 07/03/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Paneoulus papilionaceus.


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: lowbrow]
    #23407697 - 07/03/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Paneoulus papilionaceus.



I would disagree- it lacks the white teeth-like protrusions on the edges of the gills and has thicker flesh, is less conical, slightly differs in stipe color, and i very very rarely see
zoned P. papilionacei. If it is anything besides cinctulus id say p. Fimicola


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23407800 - 07/03/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Habitat:
In a pasture on cow excrement in the shade in a field where cows were kept up until a week or two ago



P. cinctulus is rare to find growing on cow dung, although it happens.

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it lacks the white teeth-like protrusions on the edges of the gills



P. papilionaceus has a wide variability, often lacking this feature. Mycologists had a handful of different names for this species before, partly because of this.

I think the stipe screams P. papilionaceus. But like you say, the zoned cap is a bit strange.

I don't think you can get a definitive ID without more photos (=more mushrooms and photos showing the gills better)


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23407944 - 07/03/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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knarkkorven said:

I don't think you can get a definitive ID without more photos (=more mushrooms and photos showing the gills better)




Here's another picture of the gills:


As you can see, it's very black now. However, when it was found, it's gills were distinctly brown and mottled (as can be vaguely seen in the first picture). This just strikes me as not a papilionaceus, since all of those that I've seen have grayish mottled gills with never really more than a hint of brown.


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: pyrolight]
    #23408125 - 07/03/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you look at your picture it does have the teeth like protrusions around the cap.


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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: lowbrow]
    #23408179 - 07/03/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Panaeolus papilionaceous.




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Re: Panaeolus cinctulus id [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23408791 - 07/03/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They might be Panaeolus acuminatus


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