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helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease
    #23406859 - 07/03/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i was checking my jars and saw something that concerned me but I'm not entirely sure..
about 11 days in, possible con tams or nothing to worry about?
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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23406890 - 07/03/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bottom pic looks bacterial with the metabolites after only 11 days.

Middle jar looks suspect as well with the thick leading edge..

Though even when bacterial usually can pull a flush...:thumbup:


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #23407257 - 07/03/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

is it still edible? as in safe wise


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23407266 - 07/03/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The cake?  No, don't eat the cake.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: Inocuole]
    #23407286 - 07/03/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

LOL :whathesaid:

looks bacterial though. id throw away a jar that looks that suspect, but you can try to fruit it anyway. good luck buddy!


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: Inocuole]
    #23407302 - 07/03/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

the fruits LOL


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23407307 - 07/03/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

also im not really having any kind of smells coming out of the inoculation holes


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23407327 - 07/03/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you probably wont smell anything from the holes, unless its super contam'd. but you will when you open it at birth time.

Also, bacterial jars can still smell ok. if you smell something gross, then you know you have bac/contam. but if you smell just healthy mushrooms smell, then you do NOT know with 100% certainty, that you have clean spawn.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: mupetmower]
    #23407333 - 07/03/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

not NECESSARILY true. while mupet is 90% correct, there are times where contams can be present without any smell whatsoever. so dont ALWAYS assume that you are A-OK just because it doesnt smell funky.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23407403 - 07/03/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

will they still feel the same as mycelium cakes or no? will the fruits be safe for consumption?
the spot hasn't got any bigger, how will i definitely know its contaminated? when i take it out of the jar? so many questionnnnssssss ughhhhhhhhh sorry for being a noob


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23407418 - 07/03/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The fruits will be fine, as long as the fruits themselves are not covered in contamination.  It's definitely contaminated now, but that doesn't mean anything in particular if it stays the same size.  There isn't a whole lot of difference between "looks pretty contaminated" and "definitely contaminated" though.  Just have to keep an eye on it at this point, especially for molds, since bacteria helps invite them.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23407423 - 07/03/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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potatopopper said:
will they still feel the same as mycelium cakes or no? will the fruits be safe for consumption?
the spot hasn't got any bigger, how will i definitely know its contaminated? when i take it out of the jar? so many questionnnnssssss ughhhhhhhhh sorry for being a noob




lol where there is mycelium, it will feel like mycelium, yes. and if/when fruits form, i assume they will be safe(unless they are overcome by some form of contam as well.)

the spot shouldnt get bigger as it isnt necessarily a mold, its bacteria. you can tell its bacterial because the mycelium has abruptly stopped growing in that specific area.

if/when you take the cake out, i would suggest you carefully remove the bacterial areas and put it into fruiting and hope for the best. you might come out with some mushrooms; you might not. that all depends on genetics, proper environment, level of contam etc.

good luck buddy (: you'll learn with time and your success will grow.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23407614 - 07/03/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

some better pics i hopefully (3 different jars)


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: Inocuole]
    #23407679 - 07/03/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The fruits will be fine, as long as the fruits themselves are not covered in contamination.  It's definitely contaminated now, but that doesn't mean anything in particular if it stays the same size.  There isn't a whole lot of difference between "looks pretty contaminated" and "definitely contaminated" though.  Just have to keep an eye on it at this point, especially for molds, since bacteria helps invite them.




This is the truth: BRF cakes are always going to be at least a little contaminated. It's the nature of the method, it's just that it's also somewhat resilient despite the fact. This is why it's a 'race against time' to get the cake colonized. The quicker the mycelium can colonize the cake in the face of the contams, the better. If the mycelium doesn't finish before it's overwhelmed, you get a 'stalled' cake. you may still be able to get fruits off it too.

and the fruits will be fine.

i'd really recommend keeping an eye out for the stout, 1/2 pt. widemouth jars. They have a better track record than those tall jars.


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: dankington]
    #23408081 - 07/03/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



first cake


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Re: helpppppppppp pleeeeeeeeease [Re: potatopopper]
    #23408082 - 07/03/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

its going to be dunk and rolled


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