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Pastywhyte
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I have sweated, sneezed, and coughed into monos while spawning. You have nothing to worry about as long as your spawn is clean.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23420531 - 07/07/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Check it out: The tub appears better dialed-in. Here's this afternoon's new wave of shrooms, growing larger and with far fewer premature veil breaks:

Thanks everyone!
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Perception7
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That pic looks great man. Yeah the only thing I do is wear sanitized surgical gloves when I harvest (70% alcohol rubbed on with paper towel). If I am going to be in there for a long time I wear a mask but its not necessary. I just feel more comfortable. I haven't had anything contam on me either so it may help a little.
I would do away with the bleach spray though. Congrats on the tub man!
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Perception7]
#23421951 - 07/07/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks, Perception7.
Here's how I'm using the bleach solution (based on something RR suggested elsewhere about using it as an alternative to the now-defunct Oust-brand air sanitizer). It doesn't touch the shrooms: I spray it into the air around the tub before I open it for harvest. I let the mist settle, then open the tub. I use gloves rubbed with alcohol, a bent scalpel, and tweezers. And on your suggestion I added a surgical mask this last cut...
This first flush has so far yielded almost 26oz (wet) - presumably around 2.6oz dry. FrankHorrigan gets 6 - 8 oz dry on the first flush. While I doubt mine will yield that much, I'm looking forward to seeing how it weighs out.
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Groovy Hobbit
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The dry weight for the first flush was 74.4g (2.62oz).
I'm psyched. I imagine my next first will be more with my tub better dialed in.
Thanks, all.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Whoa... it looks like the second flush is coming in already.
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spacechildo
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dont forget to post some pics!
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: spacechildo]
#23440185 - 07/14/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here's what it's looking like inside and outside:


Some caps opening early again - though not as bad as during the first flush. I just trimmed more of the lower polyfil in case it's a matter of an easier exit route for CO2...
Edited by Groovy Hobbit (07/14/16 10:38 AM)
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Groovy Hobbit
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Okay, here is the first monotub, second flush, first cutting (81.7g wet):

These look ready, don't they? (Veils broken, gills on most were visible for about a day. I don't see signs of sporulation.)
Here's what the tub looked like before this cut:

Here's what it looked like after:
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Pastywhyte
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Veils look like they popped because of poor conditions. I have a hunch they could have gone for another day still. However fruits in hand is never a bad thing.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23443331 - 07/15/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I suspect you're right!
In order to improve conditions, do you think I should
- adjust the temperature? It's in the high 80s here today (no A/C; but I've got a little fan pointing toward the wall by the monotub).
- adjust the polyfil? I've loosened the top and bottom.
- move the light over the tub? It's next to it now (I believe I've read here that side-lighting beats top-lighting).
- add moisture? I soaked and poured-off after the first flush.
Here's a look in situ:

Thanks for any ideas. I'm happy, and feel a wider grin coming on.
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Pastywhyte
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Once the pinset was in and the fruits about an inch tall I would slowly dial up the FAE. Your fruits look a bit saturated.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23443376 - 07/15/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, man. Would you suggest I dial-in FAE by leaving the polyfil tighter till the pins come in, then loosening it? Or adding extra 1/4" holes? I've seen you do that, I think at the top of the tub.
Thanks!
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Pastywhyte
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Essentially yes. As the fruits develop they start to create their own microclimate. So less RH is needed as they mature. On the flip side as they get larger they start to need more fresh air. So for optimal results I like to adjust as they develop.
For the hybrid holes I like to tape up a row of holes and leave only a couple open as the pinset develops. Then once they are bigger I take off the tape completely to provide a fresh air boost.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23443482 - 07/15/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just found this post of yours on this topic - helpful!
- So you're all taped up for colonization, then
- you let the top holes breathe a little at knotting, and stuff the bottom holes with poly;
- but you don't give the top holes a big breath till you've got a pinset?
Now, after the first flush, I went straight back into full fruiting conditions. Do you recommend instead closing the top a bit, and tightening the poly while new pins are coming in?
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Pastywhyte
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No leave it with high FAE for the second flush. You ain't going for pinset second flush anyways and the pinsites seem a little more tolerant by that point anyways. Mist heavy or dunk and that usual kicks it off pretty good.
I should mention there are lots of ways to skin a cat. I have been playing with fruiting and casing at spawning time. It's doing great. Get familiar with your cultures and their needs and give em what they seem to like.
The big thing to know is when the sub is not happy. Learn how to spot that and then act accordingly. Mist if dry, extra FAE if wet. More light if the caps are small, etc.
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23443555 - 07/15/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Groovy Hobbit
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The dry weight for the second flush was 59.8g (2.11oz). The total dry weight yield from the tub so far is thus 134.2g (4.73oz).
Thanks for the help, all!
Here come some pins: perhaps the 3rd flush is immanent...
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Boogieman47
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Nice grow man I'm having the same issues as you with dialing in when I get home I'll read more on this thread hopefully resurrect my two tubs that are performing poorly
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Groovy Hobbit
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Re: First monotub - looking right? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23489914 - 07/29/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a harvest video of the 3rd flush. It's under 3 minutes.
I will post dry weight soon.
Edited by Groovy Hobbit (08/28/16 10:16 AM)
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