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Rastafarian Etiquette? * 1
    #23406493 - 07/03/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've had dreadlocks for about a year now, and they're pretty long and obvious. When I'm out in public, other individuals with dreadlocks will wave at me and say things like, "Irie Rasta!" "Braddah am rastafari, bless!" "Blessings rasta, go in am bim bum Zion!"

:rasta:

But I'm a white guy, and I'm always kind of wondering what I should say back. I just usually kind of nod and smile. From what I understand though, it's an okay thing to say stuff back like, "Blessings rasta" or "Irie braddah," or something of that nature.

I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.

Any white guys with dreads on here have this happen to them? Any dreadlocked brothers and sisters on here that can weigh on on this?

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom] * 2
    #23406498 - 07/03/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I usually say, "Kill Whitey!".


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Sun King]
    #23406539 - 07/03/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have a white male friend who has dreads almost to his knees. He gets this constantly from white and black people.
He sometimes says shit back but he isnt a rasta, just likes dreads so he mostly just nods and smiles.
Sometimes he will say blessings mon or some shit
He is actually from Barbados and had a bit of an accent..idk thats my 2 cents. Sorry i can't help more


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom] * 7
    #23406547 - 07/03/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Rastas are racist & misogynistic as fuck. Far from the peaceful hippie stoner image that Bob Marley listening white potheads have of Rastas.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23406556 - 07/03/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Rastas are racist & misogynistic as fuck. Far from the peaceful hippie stoner image that Bob Marley listening white potheads have of Rastas.



Sure. Because you have met every Rasta, ever.
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I don't even care spout your ignorance i don't have any Rastas to defend.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23406568 - 07/03/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I just usually kind of nod and smile. From what I understand though, it's an okay thing to say stuff back like, "Blessings rasta" or "Irie braddah," or something of that nature.



Just be you man. One of my best friends talks like this, I normally put my hand or my fist on my heart and say 'peace out man' or 'much love brother'.

But then, I say that to everyone I like.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf] * 9
    #23406573 - 07/03/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm: look it up yourself. They're well known to hate white people & advocate violence against women. I'm talking real Rastas, not American or European potheads that like to pretend that they are & that people like you think are the real deal. Next time do a little research before you open your mouth & look stupid.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23406593 - 07/03/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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:facepalm: look it up yourself. They're well known to hate white people & advocate violence against women. I'm talking real Rastas, not American or European potheads that like to pretend that they are & that people like you think are the real deal. Next time do a little research before you open your mouth & look stupid.




I have never met a person in this country who i think is a "real deal" rasta. You are looking stupid making assumptions about me and my perception of them. I could not care less what you have to say about any religion/race. You are ignorant. I answered a question regarding a friend of mine who has dreads and is NOT a rasta, but wears them because he fucking likes them and its part of his culture.

Look up any race/religion and you will find a ton of hatred wether it be agianst women, gays, other religions or whatever. This is common knowledge. Derp.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf] * 1
    #23406647 - 07/03/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



The question is whether it is relevant to OP's question. I'd think most of us would assume he's in the western part of the world but I suppose we can't be sure. So it may be relevant? But then again if OP lived in one of those countries I think he would know the answer to his question.


Or maybe I'm being an asshole and assuming too much myself. I dunno.


I just liked the hippie vibes of the thread more :rasta:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23407441 - 07/03/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.




You're doing it right now, being racist.

You can be a real Rastafarian and not be black, question is -- ARE YOU?

:rastafari:

Even if you're not, if you mean what you say there is nothing offensive about a cheerful and heartfelt "Jah Bless!" in answer to such a greeting. They validate you, you validate them.

It takes confidence but, if you mean it you only do good with it. If you got Jah in your heart let Him jump off your tongue towards them with cheer.





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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23407500 - 07/03/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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...I'm always kind of wondering what I should say back. I just usually kind of nod and smile. ...




Totally sufficient.
You can show good will towards others, or you can even ignore them as you are not obligated to respond to people complimenting or otherwise calling attention to your appearance in public.

Personally used to engage people about dreadlocks in Shaivism, but your reasoning for having dreadlocks is (presumably) personal and the same may not apply to you.

Just do whatever you feel comfortable with.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
    #23407550 - 07/03/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I once considered rastafari and researched it quite a bit. While you can be white in this religion it's kind of a joke with the whole history of rastafari and Africa...zion and what not. I honestly can't remember the details. There's a rastafari forum somewhere on the net that was also totally thrashing white guys who wanted to take it seriously, for the guys here arguing about it. Rastafari is more than Christianity plus pot smoking and the whole hair beard thing....I can't even grow a beard :jah:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #23408572 - 07/03/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Rastas don't share spliffs,jamacain rastas r usually homeless drug dealers,crack,ganj


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: 5150] * 2
    #23408689 - 07/03/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Whites = no dreads allowed.



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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23408792 - 07/03/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I used to think Rastafarianism was cool until I researched it a bit more and realised that it's just a black supremacist movement.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: viktor]
    #23408803 - 07/03/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: qman]
    #23408845 - 07/03/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Whites = no dreads allowed.






wow what a youknowwhat. dont wanna get banned...


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23408862 - 07/03/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Every Rasta I've met has been hardcore Black Power, "kill Whitey" type shit


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #23408876 - 07/03/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

OP, if you're not a rasta just say "ya man" not mon and give the devil horns. \,,/


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Bigfeely123] * 4
    #23408932 - 07/03/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

unless you believe that the second coming of Christ has already occurred and was a black leader in Africa, then you are not a rasta.  keep just doing the smile and nod thing.  or cut/brush your hair


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf]
    #23409632 - 07/04/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I have a white male friend who has dreads almost to his knees. He gets this constantly from white and black people.
He sometimes says shit back but he isnt a rasta, just likes dreads so he mostly just nods and smiles.
Sometimes he will say blessings mon or some shit
He is actually from Barbados and had a bit of an accent..idk thats my 2 cents. Sorry i can't help more




Thanks man, this was like the only helpful comment I got in this thread.

:lol:

From what I gather, it's customary to say "blessings," when you see another person with dreads, so I'm gonna go with that from now on.

I feel like so many people of so many races have dreadlocks now that it's not really just a Rastafarian thing, or just a "black people" thing.

I saw an Asian dude at the airport in Costa Rica that had his entire hair deadlocked into two enormous, greasy, paddles. He looked kind of like Jar Jar Binks. Weirdest shit I've ever seen in my life.

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23409648 - 07/04/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
Quote:

WeAreMushroom said:

I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.




You're doing it right now, being racist.

You can be a real Rastafarian and not be black, question is -- ARE YOU?

:rastafari:

Even if you're not, if you mean what you say there is nothing offensive about a cheerful and heartfelt "Jah Bless!" in answer to such a greeting. They validate you, you validate them.

It takes confidence but, if you mean it you only do good with it. If you got Jah in your heart let Him jump off your tongue towards them with cheer.


Well I certainly wasn't being intentionally racist, as I stated that I was trying to avoid that in the OP.

Jah Bless you and your Nkondi higher every day, Asante. Much love, brother.

:rastafari:






Quote:

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Quote:

qman said:
Whites = no dreads allowed.






wow what a youknowwhat. dont wanna get banned...





This video is crazy. She literally almost physically attacks this poor dude who's probably stoned out of his mind and can't even remember where Egypt is, just because it looks like he hasn't washed his head in a month. :rasta:

Those aren't even dreads. So many white people walk around with messy unwashed piles of grease on their heads and call them dreads that it really gives a bad name to those of us who actually know what we're doing with our expensive-ass dreadlock products, tools, and long hours of maintenance.

It's not easy knotting up all this hair, and it certainly takes more than just not doing anything with your hair to make it dread.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #23409660 - 07/04/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bigfeely123 said:
Quote:

qman said:
Whites = no dreads allowed.






wow what a youknowwhat. dont wanna get banned...




for reaaal dude

who the fuck does she think she is

unbelievable

and that white dude who was getting harrased handled it very well

also kudos to the person who filmed this! :thumbup:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Crixalis] * 4
    #23409698 - 07/04/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In response to the OP, just be yourself. Speak how you would speak to anyone else in a greeting. There's no reason to fake being someone you're not in order to uphold some standard of etiquette that isn't really your culture to begin with.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23409950 - 07/04/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In response to the OP, just be yourself. Speak how you would speak to anyone else in a greeting. There's no reason to fake being someone you're not in order to uphold some standard of etiquette that isn't really your culture to begin with.




Yeah, with a decade of having dreadlocks, never saw reason to pretend to be Rastafarian as I am not. :shrug:

It was always fun to engage other dread heads in conversation about our individual reasons for having dreadlocks though.  Nice, genuine, person-to-person connection between people who dealt with similar social judgements.

What I will say though, in my experience Rastafarians (at least those that had immigrated to Montréal from Jamaica) were very open and accepting of me for not sharing their faith. 
They were always interested to learn about Shiva, and were typically less judgemental about what most Christians lose their shit over as heresy. :lol:

Out of the judgement OP is going to face for being a white guy with dreadlocks, faking a Rasta greeting around people who already presume him to be a Rasta is relatively low on the list.  If he feels most comfortable giving blessings, then that is really about as good as anything else.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Tantrika]
    #23410007 - 07/04/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

IMHO, adopting a vocabulary is one thing, affecting an accent is another.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #23410471 - 07/04/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I'd say like some hipster shit like Namaste but only in that super specific situation. Be yourself, unless you just can't bond but need to with every dread headed fellow in ur corner of the world  What makes you think you have to reciprocate with anything but "Hey man how's it going?" Like everyone else


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
    #23410592 - 07/04/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

WeAreMushroom said:

I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.




You're doing it right now, being racist.

You can be a real Rastafarian and not be black, question is -- ARE YOU?

:rastafari:

Even if you're not, if you mean what you say there is nothing offensive about a cheerful and heartfelt "Jah Bless!" in answer to such a greeting. They validate you, you validate them.

It takes confidence but, if you mean it you only do good with it. If you got Jah in your heart let Him jump off your tongue towards them with cheer.








The best way to handle that guys situation in the video is to say

"Really?! I had no idea! I remember hearing something about Rasta from a friend who listened to this music but I have never looked into it. Now that I know this ill change my hair style right away when I get home or to the hotel room..."

Problem solved  :cookiemonster:



"Rastafari is an Abrahamic belief which developed in Jamaica in the 1930s, following the coronation of Haile Selassie I as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930. Its adherents worship him in much the same way as Jesus in his Second Advent, or as God the Father."

"Rastafari holds many Christian beliefs like the existence of a triune God ("Jah"), who had sent his divine incarnate son to Earth in the form of Jesus (Yeshua) and made himself manifest as the divine person of Haile Selassie I. Rastafari accept much of the Bible, although they believe that its message and interpretation have been corrupted."


From my understanding Rastafarians are not Christians. It is not a Christian denomination (unless I missed it on the page but I welcome any one to quote me, this is a interesting subject).

But are they considered partaking Christian primitivism? Would that make them Christians? Similar to Jehovah witnesses.

Witnesses consider them selves Christians according to this :

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/

I did not see Rasta's on this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism


However I have read some Rasta's consider them selves non corrupted Christians.

Should we dig into what mormans believe.. i dont even know if that is a Christian denomination.. did not search.

I guess this is all technicality's to define. :shrug:

Personally I think that you Have Christianity and then you have denominations that follow under it.

All of that stuff aside tho..

Websters dictionary defines Christian as this :

a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ

So they seem like from what I have read that they do not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ since a verse like this (very popular one) says

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
john 3:16 NIV

Maybe some one can pull up bible verses that talk about Haile Selassie I... I don't remember seeing him in there...

But hey people can call them selves what ever they want. Not a biggie :tongue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/18853/do-rastafarians-believe-in-jesus-as-the-way-to-god
https://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/christian
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
http://listverse.com/2014/01/06/10-things-to-know-about-rastafari-beliefs/


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23410736 - 07/04/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't get why people think rastas are so cool... it's just a dopey version of Christianity with a really peculiar obsession for one black dude who didn't even do anything that cool imo

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23410824 - 07/04/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23410959 - 07/04/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't get why people think rastas are so cool... it's just a dopey version of Christianity with a really peculiar obsession for one black dude who didn't even do anything that cool imo

but whatever floats your boat I guess



They have a cool language :lol:

And the pseudo-rastas in the PNW are genuinely really nice people that seem unattached to the weird religious aspects and just carry on the sort of aesthetic and cannabis obsessed culture :lol:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23410970 - 07/04/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

that's true. I've only ever met nice rastas, but that might be because they live in BC and are super happy they don't have to slum it in Jamaica anymore...

not just rastas but I've found every Jamaican person I've ever met was extremely nice and personable, admittedly that's only about 6 people, but still

I can't get with the weird beliefs though


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf] * 2
    #23410975 - 07/04/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, you're the ignorant one here. You  called me out on pointing out the negatives of genuine Rasta culture....when the reality is that I'm correct. Which, incidentally, you would know had you taken 5-10 minutes to actually look into the matter rather than getting butthurt because you know some dudes with dreads. And now you even admit that you don't even know any real Rastas. I swear the average IQ had plummeted as of late. Thanks for proving my point about white potheads that listen to Bob Marley. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23410992 - 07/04/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah, you're the ignorant one here. You  called me out on pointing out the negatives of genuine Rasta culture....when the reality is that I'm correct. Which, incidentally, you would know had you taken 5-10 minutes to actually look into the matter rather than getting butthurt because you know some dudes with dreads. And now you even admit that you don't even know any real Rastas. I swear the average IQ had plummeted as of late. Thanks for proving my point about white potheads that listen to Bob Marley. :cookiemonster:



You are obv butthurt as you are still replying to me about such a mundane subject. I never implied i knew any rastas, learn to read. You are ignorant for calling a whole group of people racist.
And u have your panties wedged way up your ass crack. Try to get them out.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom] * 2
    #23411329 - 07/04/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've had dreadlocks for about a year now, and they're pretty long and obvious. When I'm out in public, other individuals with dreadlocks will wave at me and say things like, "Irie Rasta!" "Braddah am rastafari, bless!" "Blessings rasta, go in am bim bum Zion!"




Unless you are a rasta, trying to speak in that patoir will just make you look fake and foolish.
When he greets you with the 'lingo' just say good morning, or some normal American greeting, in your own accent, and move on.

Chances are if you try to reply in his lingo, he will step it up a gear, to a point where you don't understand a word, and then laugh at the 'stupid whitey' pretending to be rasta.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23412580 - 07/05/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pub etiquette is apparently to insist that all Rastas are hateful anti white racists and therefore, despicable people.

I only met ONE truly racist Rastafarian, the rest I met were totally mellow, friendly welcoming people, and such are the experiences of several people in this thread.

Ofcourse they are not the "real" ones, oh no :ohyou:


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
    #23412637 - 07/05/16 04:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Pub etiquette is apparently to insist that all Rastas are hateful anti white racists and therefore, despicable people.

I only met ONE truly racist Rastafarian, the rest I met were totally mellow, friendly welcoming people, and such are the experiences of several people in this thread.

Ofcourse they are not the "real" ones, oh no :ohyou:




Why you quoting me?
I was suggesting that the rasta man was testing the OP to see how fake he was.
If the OP had said sorry I don't understand a fucking word your're on about, the rasta man would have probably laughed and have more respect for him than had he tried to be fake.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23412639 - 07/05/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Rasta's always talk like that though :lol:

it doesn't matter if you have dreads or are a grandma


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23412641 - 07/05/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not quoting you, just tagging onto the conversation.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
    #23412661 - 07/05/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

there are a lot of fair points in this thread

it seems that as soon as I agree with one poster...

another one replies in such a way that both sides have convincing arguments

I honestly don't know what to think besides...

maybe just being yourself is the best thing anyone can do

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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Tantrika]
    #23412935 - 07/05/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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SweetLeafSamadhi said:

Out of the judgement OP is going to face for being a white guy with dreadlocks, faking a Rasta greeting around people who already presume him to be a Rasta is relatively low on the list.  If he feels most comfortable giving blessings, then that is really about as good as anything else.




:whathesaid:

I'm just most comfortable returning the semi-formal greeting of Rastas in a way that they find familiar and polite. Probably a simple "Jah Bless!," a nod, and a smile. Much easier than stopping to explain in detail to strangers that I'm not really a Rastafarian. :shrug:

I'm certainly not interested in trying to effect a fake accent, now THAT'S racist. :haha:

Thanks for all the advice in this thread guys, let's try and keep this discussion positive and uplifting, friends.


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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23412945 - 07/05/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Rasta etiquette from my point of view:

- have shit logs for hair
- wear the green red and yellow bag on your head
- listen to reggae
- smoke weed
- look homeless

But you know, don't judge a book by its cover they say


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