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WeAreMushroom
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf]
#23409632 - 07/04/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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MommaSmurf said: I have a white male friend who has dreads almost to his knees. He gets this constantly from white and black people. He sometimes says shit back but he isnt a rasta, just likes dreads so he mostly just nods and smiles. Sometimes he will say blessings mon or some shit He is actually from Barbados and had a bit of an accent..idk thats my 2 cents. Sorry i can't help more
Thanks man, this was like the only helpful comment I got in this thread.

From what I gather, it's customary to say "blessings," when you see another person with dreads, so I'm gonna go with that from now on.
I feel like so many people of so many races have dreadlocks now that it's not really just a Rastafarian thing, or just a "black people" thing.
I saw an Asian dude at the airport in Costa Rica that had his entire hair deadlocked into two enormous, greasy, paddles. He looked kind of like Jar Jar Binks. Weirdest shit I've ever seen in my life.
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Asante said:
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I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.
You're doing it right now, being racist.
You can be a real Rastafarian and not be black, question is -- ARE YOU?

Even if you're not, if you mean what you say there is nothing offensive about a cheerful and heartfelt "Jah Bless!" in answer to such a greeting. They validate you, you validate them.
It takes confidence but, if you mean it you only do good with it. If you got Jah in your heart let Him jump off your tongue towards them with cheer.
Well I certainly wasn't being intentionally racist, as I stated that I was trying to avoid that in the OP.
Jah Bless you and your Nkondi higher every day, Asante. Much love, brother.

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qman said: Whites = no dreads allowed.
wow what a youknowwhat. dont wanna get banned...
This video is crazy. She literally almost physically attacks this poor dude who's probably stoned out of his mind and can't even remember where Egypt is, just because it looks like he hasn't washed his head in a month. 
Those aren't even dreads. So many white people walk around with messy unwashed piles of grease on their heads and call them dreads that it really gives a bad name to those of us who actually know what we're doing with our expensive-ass dreadlock products, tools, and long hours of maintenance.
It's not easy knotting up all this hair, and it certainly takes more than just not doing anything with your hair to make it dread.
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qman said: Whites = no dreads allowed.
wow what a youknowwhat. dont wanna get banned...
for reaaal dude
who the fuck does she think she is
unbelievable
and that white dude who was getting harrased handled it very well
also kudos to the person who filmed this!
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Crixalis] 4
#23409698 - 07/04/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In response to the OP, just be yourself. Speak how you would speak to anyone else in a greeting. There's no reason to fake being someone you're not in order to uphold some standard of etiquette that isn't really your culture to begin with.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23409950 - 07/04/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: In response to the OP, just be yourself. Speak how you would speak to anyone else in a greeting. There's no reason to fake being someone you're not in order to uphold some standard of etiquette that isn't really your culture to begin with.
Yeah, with a decade of having dreadlocks, never saw reason to pretend to be Rastafarian as I am not. 
It was always fun to engage other dread heads in conversation about our individual reasons for having dreadlocks though. Nice, genuine, person-to-person connection between people who dealt with similar social judgements.
What I will say though, in my experience Rastafarians (at least those that had immigrated to Montréal from Jamaica) were very open and accepting of me for not sharing their faith. They were always interested to learn about Shiva, and were typically less judgemental about what most Christians lose their shit over as heresy. 
Out of the judgement OP is going to face for being a white guy with dreadlocks, faking a Rasta greeting around people who already presume him to be a Rasta is relatively low on the list. If he feels most comfortable giving blessings, then that is really about as good as anything else.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Tantrika]
#23410007 - 07/04/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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IMHO, adopting a vocabulary is one thing, affecting an accent is another.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Me_Roy]
#23410471 - 07/04/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Personally I'd say like some hipster shit like Namaste but only in that super specific situation. Be yourself, unless you just can't bond but need to with every dread headed fellow in ur corner of the world What makes you think you have to reciprocate with anything but "Hey man how's it going?" Like everyone else
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
#23410592 - 07/04/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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WeAreMushroom said:
I don't want to come off as racist or anything, so I'm hesitant to consider myself a "real" Rastafarian, or anything near that even.
You're doing it right now, being racist.
You can be a real Rastafarian and not be black, question is -- ARE YOU?

Even if you're not, if you mean what you say there is nothing offensive about a cheerful and heartfelt "Jah Bless!" in answer to such a greeting. They validate you, you validate them.
It takes confidence but, if you mean it you only do good with it. If you got Jah in your heart let Him jump off your tongue towards them with cheer.
The best way to handle that guys situation in the video is to say
"Really?! I had no idea! I remember hearing something about Rasta from a friend who listened to this music but I have never looked into it. Now that I know this ill change my hair style right away when I get home or to the hotel room..."
Problem solved

"Rastafari is an Abrahamic belief which developed in Jamaica in the 1930s, following the coronation of Haile Selassie I as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930. Its adherents worship him in much the same way as Jesus in his Second Advent, or as God the Father."
"Rastafari holds many Christian beliefs like the existence of a triune God ("Jah"), who had sent his divine incarnate son to Earth in the form of Jesus (Yeshua) and made himself manifest as the divine person of Haile Selassie I. Rastafari accept much of the Bible, although they believe that its message and interpretation have been corrupted."
From my understanding Rastafarians are not Christians. It is not a Christian denomination (unless I missed it on the page but I welcome any one to quote me, this is a interesting subject).
But are they considered partaking Christian primitivism? Would that make them Christians? Similar to Jehovah witnesses.
Witnesses consider them selves Christians according to this :
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/
I did not see Rasta's on this page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism
However I have read some Rasta's consider them selves non corrupted Christians.
Should we dig into what mormans believe.. i dont even know if that is a Christian denomination.. did not search.
I guess this is all technicality's to define. 
Personally I think that you Have Christianity and then you have denominations that follow under it.
All of that stuff aside tho..
Websters dictionary defines Christian as this :
a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ
So they seem like from what I have read that they do not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ since a verse like this (very popular one) says
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. john 3:16 NIV
Maybe some one can pull up bible verses that talk about Haile Selassie I... I don't remember seeing him in there...
But hey people can call them selves what ever they want. Not a biggie 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/18853/do-rastafarians-believe-in-jesus-as-the-way-to-god https://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/christian http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations http://listverse.com/2014/01/06/10-things-to-know-about-rastafari-beliefs/
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I don't get why people think rastas are so cool... it's just a dopey version of Christianity with a really peculiar obsession for one black dude who didn't even do anything that cool imo
but whatever floats your boat I guess
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Ezuma]
#23410959 - 07/04/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I don't get why people think rastas are so cool... it's just a dopey version of Christianity with a really peculiar obsession for one black dude who didn't even do anything that cool imo
but whatever floats your boat I guess
They have a cool language 
And the pseudo-rastas in the PNW are genuinely really nice people that seem unattached to the weird religious aspects and just carry on the sort of aesthetic and cannabis obsessed culture
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: twighead] 1
#23410970 - 07/04/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's true. I've only ever met nice rastas, but that might be because they live in BC and are super happy they don't have to slum it in Jamaica anymore...
not just rastas but I've found every Jamaican person I've ever met was extremely nice and personable, admittedly that's only about 6 people, but still
I can't get with the weird beliefs though
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: MommaSmurf] 2
#23410975 - 07/04/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nah, you're the ignorant one here. You called me out on pointing out the negatives of genuine Rasta culture....when the reality is that I'm correct. Which, incidentally, you would know had you taken 5-10 minutes to actually look into the matter rather than getting butthurt because you know some dudes with dreads. And now you even admit that you don't even know any real Rastas. I swear the average IQ had plummeted as of late. Thanks for proving my point about white potheads that listen to Bob Marley.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23410992 - 07/04/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Nah, you're the ignorant one here. You called me out on pointing out the negatives of genuine Rasta culture....when the reality is that I'm correct. Which, incidentally, you would know had you taken 5-10 minutes to actually look into the matter rather than getting butthurt because you know some dudes with dreads. And now you even admit that you don't even know any real Rastas. I swear the average IQ had plummeted as of late. Thanks for proving my point about white potheads that listen to Bob Marley. 
You are obv butthurt as you are still replying to me about such a mundane subject. I never implied i knew any rastas, learn to read. You are ignorant for calling a whole group of people racist. And u have your panties wedged way up your ass crack. Try to get them out.
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WeAreMushroom said: I've had dreadlocks for about a year now, and they're pretty long and obvious. When I'm out in public, other individuals with dreadlocks will wave at me and say things like, "Irie Rasta!" "Braddah am rastafari, bless!" "Blessings rasta, go in am bim bum Zion!"
Unless you are a rasta, trying to speak in that patoir will just make you look fake and foolish. When he greets you with the 'lingo' just say good morning, or some normal American greeting, in your own accent, and move on.
Chances are if you try to reply in his lingo, he will step it up a gear, to a point where you don't understand a word, and then laugh at the 'stupid whitey' pretending to be rasta.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23412580 - 07/05/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pub etiquette is apparently to insist that all Rastas are hateful anti white racists and therefore, despicable people.
I only met ONE truly racist Rastafarian, the rest I met were totally mellow, friendly welcoming people, and such are the experiences of several people in this thread.
Ofcourse they are not the "real" ones, oh no
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
#23412637 - 07/05/16 04:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Asante said: Pub etiquette is apparently to insist that all Rastas are hateful anti white racists and therefore, despicable people.
I only met ONE truly racist Rastafarian, the rest I met were totally mellow, friendly welcoming people, and such are the experiences of several people in this thread.
Ofcourse they are not the "real" ones, oh no 
Why you quoting me? I was suggesting that the rasta man was testing the OP to see how fake he was. If the OP had said sorry I don't understand a fucking word your're on about, the rasta man would have probably laughed and have more respect for him than had he tried to be fake.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23412639 - 07/05/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rasta's always talk like that though
it doesn't matter if you have dreads or are a grandma
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23412641 - 07/05/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not quoting you, just tagging onto the conversation.
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Re: Rastafarian Etiquette? [Re: Asante]
#23412661 - 07/05/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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there are a lot of fair points in this thread
it seems that as soon as I agree with one poster...
another one replies in such a way that both sides have convincing arguments
I honestly don't know what to think besides...
maybe just being yourself is the best thing anyone can do
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