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The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few....
    #23406079 - 07/03/16 04:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Below is actually part of a longer reply I gave in the spirituality section which originally wasn't about drugs but ended up going in that direction, and I thought it might be a good idea to post it here also, thinking it might get people inspired to start experimenting and considering this concept....

"So far people focus on mimosa and acacia, but I feel that there must be thousands of plants, if not more, which this is possible to do with.  It seems highly unlikely that out of hundreds of thousands of plants, many of which haven't even been discovered or documented yet, that us humans just happened to find the 2 with the highest concentrations of DMT when extracted.  Talk about finding a needle in a haystack!!  The main reason those 2 are used in my opinion, is because they have been used as dyes in a few industries for a long time, and to get the dye you have to pull the roots, and chop them fine so you can get the most color the fastest from more surface area contact.  This takes heavy machinery to do this on a large scale.  Well this industry just happens to make it nice and convenient for people to access the DMT, without the industry having to go out of their way.  I have a feeling many of the big trees they chop down for construction and building stuff, have plenty of DMT also, but that industry plays with big trees with huge root systems which the industry doesn't need, so they chainsaw the trees at the base, and leave the roots in the ground.  There is no reason for them to pull the roots and grind them.  Plus most people don't and won't go through the trouble of digging down and hacking roots of big random trees, then drying and chopping fine, just so they can MAYBE see if there is DMT in them.  That would be a very tedious task for an unsure reward.  So mimosa and acacia have become the norm because it's convenient.  I bet you can take the average root of a tree and do an extract, and once this is discovered, if it's true, as I believe it is, the drug war and suppression of psychedelics would be absolutely over without question.  It's heading that way anyway..."

DMT extraction is a huge business, so the majority of acacia and mimosa sold for extraction must be being put into circulation by the mimosa and acacia wood/dye industry, which remove roots and dry and grind on a large scale as part of their business anyway, not some little random people with a couple of friends with pick axes who feel compelled to sweat all day to help enlighten humanity.  How many other industries need to uproot, dry and grind big tree roots in huge quantities for their business?  Not many I can think of.....


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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23406094 - 07/03/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's a virtual certainty that there are sources of DMT in other species of plants.  Alexander Shulgin was of that opinion.  I believe your theory on why they haven't been uncovered yet has some merit.  That, plus once you've FOUND something (like your lost car keys) you always STOP LOOKING!!!

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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23406098 - 07/03/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly...


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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23406099 - 07/03/16 05:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The reason MHRB is most useful is due to its low concentration of plant fats allowing it to be extracted to highly pure DMT easily.

DMT has already been documented all over the plant world in loads of species but the concentrations found are usually lower and the plant fats much higher.

The reason people stick to MHRB IMO is purely the ease of extraction due to the lack of plant fats in the root.


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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: nice1returns]
    #23406121 - 07/03/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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nice1returns said:
The reason MHRB is most useful is due to its low concentration of plant fats allowing it to be extracted to highly pure DMT easily.

DMT has already been documented all over the plant world in loads of species but the concentrations found are usually lower and the plant fats much higher.

The reason people stick to MHRB IMO is purely the ease of extraction due to the lack of plant fats in the root.




Yeah, DMT exists in many species, including the viridis used to make ayahuasca, and shrooms also.  But there are hundreds of thousands of species of trees and plants, and there is no way in hell that even 1% of them have had their roots dug up, dried, chopped and ground, which is a pain in the ass, and an extract performed by people who are "hoping" there is a nice return of DMT with minimal fat.  Hasn't happened.

So there is no way of knowing for a fact that mimosa and acacia have the highest DMT with the least fat.  It's just what we believe so far. 

How convenient that most DMT is being made from the 2 trees that are already having their roots used for dye on a large scale, c'mon....think about it.

Ain't no coincidence.





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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: wakeINpeople]
    #23406395 - 07/03/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree and was going to try with an oak tree's roots, but my theory is the same plus roots are like mycelium I belive they talk to other root systems and plants so must contain a molecule or dmt to be able to communicate, that's my theory


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Re: The concept of DMT existing in the root bark of most trees, not just a few.... [Re: sbc1]
    #23406463 - 07/03/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Another consideration is the duration that the plant takes to grow, and how common it is.

Mimosa and Acacia are invasive plants. Even though they take a few years to form sizable roots, you're not really damaging their species by harvesting from them.

We might find better sources of DMT or new alkaloids altogether from other plants. But it still may not be practical if it's a very rare plant or doesn't grow fast.

Phalaris grows fast, but the tradeoff is low alkaloid content. Extracting from large amounts can be a pain.

If I were searching for the next psychedelic plant, I'd start checking the most vigorous and widespread plants first. Then when you find something it'll more likely be worth while.


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