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#23405865 - 07/03/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who else is into these? I'm currently downloading Cities Skylines and Anno 1404.
Any recommendations?
Used to be a huge fan of Age of Empires/Mythology, then grew out of combat focused games and more into economic growth/sustainability/management.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23405981 - 07/03/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I recently downloaded Stronghold crusader since I used to love it when I was younger, but it's pretty easy or impossible, depending on how many and which enemies you put in the scenario
I also played factorio for a while and found it pretty nice
I need to download some games to rely on since Im getting my connection down because I'm moving out but that will require some time to get new connection and sthuff
I like that anno one, probly chekin it out
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Dawn of war 2 Warcraft 3 Age of empires 3 starcraft 2 command and conquer saga
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: djmako7]
#23412703 - 07/05/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anno 1404 is probably my favorite of the entire Anno series. You could always go Dwarf Fortress if you wanna do hardcore management/growth/sustainability simulation...
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23412893 - 07/05/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea I'm loving Anno 1404!
Someone put me on to Dwarf Fortress a few years back, but starting off it seemed too complicated haha. Didn't get far enough to enjoy it.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23413106 - 07/05/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yea, another great game in this category is Banished. Racked up like 180~ hours on steam.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23413389 - 07/05/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try rimworld.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23415172 - 07/05/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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those rimworld graphics and animations remind me so much of prison architect.
DOW 2 wasn't really a strategy game, more an rpg if anything. Dawn of War was a proper (and very good) RTS
My favourite RTS of all time is Total Annihilation.
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Supreme Commander Forged Alliance is my favorite RTS. Very similar to Total Annihilation. Though, Ashes of the Singularity might take that spot. The whole "fighting on three fronts with thousands of units" thing is much more entertaining than Starcraft-esque APM micro.
As long as you stay away from Supreme Commander 2 (which is much more like a mediocre Starcraft clone) you'll like those.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23416039 - 07/06/16 05:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You guys might enjoy Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Total annihilation reminded me of a cross between C&C and Sins~
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23418543 - 07/06/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rise of Nations was one of my favorite RTSs. Its Age of Empires but better, more complex, with better systems.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23418732 - 07/06/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's pretty old now, but Supreme Commander is pretty great.
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mndfreeze said: Rise of Nations was one of my favorite RTSs. Its Age of Empires but better, more complex, with better systems.
I 2nd this its a great game and i still play it.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23419829 - 07/07/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: Supreme Commander Forged Alliance is my favorite RTS. Very similar to Total Annihilation. Though, Ashes of the Singularity might take that spot. The whole "fighting on three fronts with thousands of units" thing is much more entertaining than Starcraft-esque APM micro.
As long as you stay away from Supreme Commander 2 (which is much more like a mediocre Starcraft clone) you'll like those.
Supcom was a game where the designers made a game they wanted to play. Supcom I could argue is better than Total annihlation, certainly fun, but I love TA, so many good memories.
I've played 69 minutes of ashes so far. Not enough to pass judgement. Right now I'm having too much fun playing euro truck simulator 2. A game about doing deliveries. My main job is doing deliveries (I do a day a week as general dogsbody/computer tech/secretary for a record cleaner company) and yet my entertainment is doing deliveries. I feel like Fry when he gets the year 3000 work assessment and gets all excited when he finds out he's not a pizza boy anymore, he's a courier.
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The only reason I prefer Supcom to TA is UX. TA was a bit clunky, sort of like comparing dune to C&C. (If I remember correctly, selecting and controlling groups of units in TA was a pain, much like how in dune you could only select and give orders to one unit at a time.) Supcom also made great strides in AI and general control, with the repeating build orders, ability to put together complex order trees and coordinated attacks. It's always fun to watch your wing of bombers come in seconds after an artillery barrage, followed by a wall of cannon fodder and some T3 assault bots stepping in range literally as the bombs hit. The 1000 unit cap helped quite a bit here. I haven't played enough Ashes to pass concrete judgement either, but the scale is on par with Supcom. The one major flaw (for my playstyle, this may be a boon to normal people) with Ashes is the fixed resource generation directly proportional to the amount of territory controlled. I normally played super-turtle with Supcom, making fields of power/mass fabricators and relying on tech and building an economy in my tiny corner of the map to rival all of the mass deposits present on the map. Sure, it's not really a viable strategy against expert players (and if you're playing more than two cheating bots, you needed the mod that cut strategic missile defense building times by 10), but combined with an early T2 rush to distract, you could generally outbuild everyone else and just walk an army of 20 Ythothas into wherever needed to get torched to the ground. If you were in a team game and the other guy with you was a competent rusher, even better.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23467399 - 07/22/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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scragins said: Cities Skylines
goddamn, I sooo wish I had something that could run that game... absolutely adore the whole simcity franchise up to 4.
you might like 'banished'
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: LuSiD9]
#23468318 - 07/23/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LuSiD9 said: you might like 'banished'
:P
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23470735 - 07/23/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep, that's about how many hours I've put into Banished myself.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23474346 - 07/25/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Homeworld 2 is where it's at, man. Tough as nails, but really fun.
If you want something Homeworld-ish but more grand strategy/X4, try Stellaris. I personally started out enjoying it a lot, but it ended up feeling broken and somewhat repetitive after a while.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Satyr604]
#23474386 - 07/25/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Age of empires 2
Its my all time favorite game and definitely the best in the series. The steam version got a new addon recently although the game was released in 1999
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Satyr604] 1
#23481158 - 07/27/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Satyr604 said: Homeworld 2 is where it's at, man. Tough as nails, but really fun.
If you want something Homeworld-ish but more grand strategy/X4, try Stellaris. I personally started out enjoying it a lot, but it ended up feeling broken and somewhat repetitive after a while.
Just got Stellaris the day before yesterday, and haven't had time to sleep since. Actually came here for the specific purpose of recommending it, even though it isn't really a true RTS. Haven't enjoyed a 4x game this much since the original Master of Orion. (I'm not saying sins was bad, it just wasn't as engaging)
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23482346 - 07/27/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe I was a bit harsh for it. I really did enjoy it a lot. But at one point, after stabilizing my economy, I wanted to expand. I was a human militaristic xenophile democracy, mostly driven by science. 'North' of me was a militaristic dictatorship, 'south' of me was a xenophobic yet pacifist race. I kept good relationships with my neighbours to the north and was indifferent towards those south of me.
The race to the north of me got into a war. When they were severely weakened I took some of their territory. The guys to the south of me, the so-called pacifists, had military might equal to mine. I invade them and rev up the war machine, producing fighters and the like. I attack their 4k fleet with my 5k fleet. I win, though barely. Suddenly, out of nowhere, I get hit with a 9k fleet immediately after. That's bullshit.
No matter how hard I turn up my war production, that pacifistic race is always several steps ahead of me, spawning their fleets out of thin fucking air. There is no other way for me to expand than by claiming their territory. I eventually managed to occupy their homeworld, but even then they just keep pulling ships out of their bums. I had two vassals and an ally and they didn't do shit. That's when I just gave up.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23482892 - 07/27/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Satyr604 said: Homeworld 2 is where it's at, man. Tough as nails, but really fun.
If you want something Homeworld-ish but more grand strategy/X4, try Stellaris. I personally started out enjoying it a lot, but it ended up feeling broken and somewhat repetitive after a while.
Just got Stellaris the day before yesterday, and haven't had time to sleep since. Actually came here for the specific purpose of recommending it, even though it isn't really a true RTS. Haven't enjoyed a 4x game this much since the original Master of Orion. (I'm not saying sins was bad, it just wasn't as engaging)
Love this game. I'm getting some bug where my colony ships won't move out of their system so I've stopped playing.
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Satyr...sounds like your war machine isn't getting enough fuel... My first playthrough as the fanatic pacifist mushroom preset I got pretty far, haven't given up yet but stopped playing because I got the trans-dimensional beings event a few sectors over from me at the same time that two fallen empires declared war. Since that was my first game, my main fleet is only at 20k power and my recently incorporated vassal's backup fleet is 12k.
I started a game as a (custom) militaristic/xenophile human on a 1000 star ring. While I'm pretty early on, I figure it will make life a little easier since I'm limited to two fronts max, instead of the mushroom playthrough where I'm bordering two fallen empires and about 4-5 other guys that are pissed (though weaker than me). I'm worried they'll declare war while I'm busy with the FE and just take me apart.
As for the colony ship thing, the colonization is a bit weird. It seems that you need to move the ship to the system, and only then give colonization orders. Hasn't worked for me otherwise.
The pause/unpause mechanic with toolbars is also annoying. Either I need to teach myself to get out of the dwarf fortress mindset of hitting space anytime an announcement pops up, or they need it to be a little more intuitive. I think that one's on me though.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: Kryptos]
#23488161 - 07/29/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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With 320 hours in Sins: Rebellion, I can confidently say 4X games rock :P
Might give Stellaris a go. Satyr's story has me intrigued.
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Re: RTS/Strategy [Re: scragins]
#23514572 - 08/05/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wish there were some seeds to Final Fantasy X.
Miss playing that game.
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