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healerfromtheland
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healerfromtheland said: and with the other tek, you simply mix mimosa powder with white vinegar, then boiling water, then pickling lime, then add naphtha, stir, then decant naphtha and evaporate?
that sounds very easy
just about. Its a very simple process, but its not hard to fuck up. As long as you careful not to collect excess moisture in the final phases its super easy.
I've been evaporating my extract straight onto a blend of herb (mostly blue lotus) but freeze precipitation is how you get the white crystals. The process of freeze precipitation is to just freeze the extract and then decant the solvent after the crystals have crashed. However decanting won't get 100% of the solvent off so you'll have to let those crystals dry some
thanks. My only question is, can the freeze-precipitate step be skipped, and instead of putting the decanted naphtha in the freezer, can it simply be put in a tray and evaporated?
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milktruck
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I just evaporate the naptha left behind in seed gunk when when removing estercoomerol from HBMG or Purpurea. It fully avaporates, I know that much
Edited by milktruck (07/03/16 09:41 AM)
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thanks. My only question is, can the freeze-precipitate step be skipped, and instead of putting the decanted naphtha in the freezer, can it simply be put in a tray and evaporated?
Yes, but freeze-precipitation makes nicer crystals and then you don't create the fumes from evaporating the naphtha. And you get to reuse your naphtha.
Don't evaporate. That's just lazy n wasteful.
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milktruck
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Re: DMT [Re: Icon]
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thanks. My only question is, can the freeze-precipitate step be skipped, and instead of putting the decanted naphtha in the freezer, can it simply be put in a tray and evaporated?
Yes, but freeze-precipitation makes nicer crystals and then you don't create the fumes from evaporating the naphtha. And you get to reuse your naphtha.
Don't evaporate. That's just lazy n wasteful.
can i do this when removing estercoomerol from morning glory and still reuse the naptha?
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healerfromtheland said:
thanks. My only question is, can the freeze-precipitate step be skipped, and instead of putting the decanted naphtha in the freezer, can it simply be put in a tray and evaporated?
Yes, but freeze-precipitation makes nicer crystals and then you don't create the fumes from evaporating the naphtha. And you get to reuse your naphtha.
Don't evaporate. That's just lazy n wasteful.
can i do this when removing estercoomerol from morning glory and still reuse the naptha?
Maybe. Could try it or look up the solubility. I know it works specially with DMT because it's soluble in warm naphtha and insoluble in cool naphtha. A couple google searches didn't look hopeful but I don't know anything about morning glory extraction.
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Re: DMT [Re: Icon]
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ahhh, estercoomerol is cold soluable in naptha, cant use heat at all when working with morning glory or the active principle is destroyed entirely. shoudl have thought a bit clearer about what you were describing lol
if ya dont want a tummy ache gotta wash out that estercoomerol (emetic) from the MG before you perform your grain alcohol (70% ish return on active principle by weight) or pet ether (90%+ return of active principle by weight) extraction
i think you can skip the naptha was if using pet ether, but i dont remember, i dont just because i fucking hate that emetic's qualities and do all i can to get rid of it because i LOVE good LSA, one of the best psychs around if dosed high enough, assuming you can get rid of the emetic that is and assuming you can deal with a couple hours of leg cramps, the cyanidic glousides of HBWR will also bind efficiently to the naptha if anyone is interested 
srry for getting off topic btw, this wasnt worth another thread
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thanks. My only question is, can the freeze-precipitate step be skipped, and instead of putting the decanted naphtha in the freezer, can it simply be put in a tray and evaporated?
yes, but there is a decent chance that air exposure will convert some N,N-DMT to DMT-N-Oxide, reducing potency. I have been skipping the freeze precipitation step by layering the bottom of my dish with an herbal smoking blend then pouring DMT rich naptha on top then evaporate in a cool dark room with a fan (out of experience, I feel like sunlight might contribute to that conversion to DMT-N-Oxide).
To make a good enhanced herb I'll usually have to put a couple pulls onto the herb, one pull of 50g MHRB onto one gram herb makes some mellow stuff, pull and evaporate three more times over and that stuff can get intense!
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healerfromtheland
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I think I am going to try this washing soda and 99% isopropyl alcohol method of extracting DMT. I saw pictures of how it comes out and it seems like a totally good, pure product - it is a dark red freebase resin/oil. I'm sure that can be vaporized on its own or mixed with parsley or something and smoked. And I believe it is full spectrum extract which for many people seems even better than just a crystal extract.
thanks for this advice
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healerfromtheland said: I think I am going to try this washing soda and 99% isopropyl alcohol method of extracting DMT. I saw pictures of how it comes out and it seems like a totally good, pure product - it is a dark red freebase resin/oil. I'm sure that can be vaporized on its own or mixed with parsley or something and smoked. And I believe it is full spectrum extract which for many people seems even better than just a crystal extract.
thanks for this advice
When you're new to this, it seems all you're able to find are the most popular outdated teks. 90% of extractors, especially the majority here, are using outdated and inferior teks or working with Acacia. They always suggest the same popular outdated teks because that's all they ever try and they think their goop is good enough. I haven't heard of anyone using calcium carbonate and IPA for DMT extractions in years. The best tek and by far the easiest tek is the Q21Q21 A/B that trippyfish already mentioned.
Anyone care to tell me factually what their "full-spectrum" DMT extract really is? None of them know, and none of them really care. That red color is from the oils, the goo is from the fats. It's not more psychoactive, it's not smoother. It's low-quality product from a bad tek.
Sorry if those words seem harsh but I don't think people understand how easy it is to get good, clean stuff when you're willing to look past the pools of outdated information.
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Actually, even crystals can turn into goo/oil. I've never had an issue with the goo/oil personally, have had some amazing experiences with Changa. I am thinking about making some crystals sometime or another soon, but evaporating the goo/oil onto an herb has been just fine for me.
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healerfromtheland
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I haven't heard of anyone using calcium carbonate and IPA for DMT extractions in years.
washing soda isn't calcium carbonate, it's sodium carbonate and from what i've seen it extracts perfect red-colored freebase oil.
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milktruck
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Sabnock said: Actually, even crystals can turn into goo/oil. I've never had an issue with the goo/oil personally, have had some amazing experiences with Changa. I am thinking about making some crystals sometime or another soon, but evaporating the goo/oil onto an herb has been just fine for me.
my best breakthrough EVER came from that waxy orange shit that smells like mothballs that goes around.
definitely tasted like something i should not have been smokin, but god DAMN it got the job done far beyond what anything else anyone gave me and called "DMT"
had some red powdered shit a year or so before i got that, tasted much better, was easier to smoke, but wasn't even half as potent. was probably quite old at the time i got it. but could tell from the effects noted it was for SURE a tryptamine of some kind, was told it was pure crystalline DMT, i have obvious doubts but was definitely something or other tryptamine, didnt have a microscope or loupe at the time to check it out and was far more willing back then to just smoke something someone gave me.
and until i got ahold of that orange wax i thought that red powder whas all DMT could do xD and somehow i feel my waxy orange nursing home smelling stuff isnt all that great either
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