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DopesToInfinity
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Indeed it is. Maynard greatly appreciated Bill. They had planned to work together.. Bill Hicks is quoted multiple times in the song Third Eye as well
American Fucking Hero.. If you (anyone who happens to see this) don't know Bill Hicks, check him out>
Bill on mushrooms and evolution (He was obviously familiar with McKenna)
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DopesToInfinity
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"The universe is hostile, so impersonal. Devour to survive, so it is, so its always been.."
Is that how where you got your username?
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DopesToInfinity said: "The universe is hostile, so impersonal. Devour to survive, so it is, so its always been.."
Is that how where you got your username?
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ManianFH
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Jokeshopbeard said: Why would any civilian ever need a fully automatic firearm anyway?
Why would any civilian need alcohol, or tobacco? Both of those things kill about 100x more Americans per year than guns, and alcohol contributes to gun violence.
Ill answer all three questions though - because humans deserve the right to do things that make them happy. Firing an AR-15 off in the desert, it makes me pretty happy. This law is Jerry Browns hypocritical side coming out. He signs these laws into effect thinking 2 things: either he is truly concerned with preventing gun violence (which I doubt), or that these added laws will produce more state revenue (which I think is 95% the reason why). JB is a douchebag, and a hypocrite, and so is anyone else who argues that guns should be banned, then goes and sips on their vodka tonic with a cigarette.
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omg what ever will i do now that i cant be tony montana??
my life is over. mind as well hang myself
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Re: California is fucked [Re: ManianFH] 1
#23405957 - 07/03/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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an ar-15 isnt fully automatic.
this debate is crazy and full of people that dont know their heads from their asses... if you dont know what the hell you are talking about, dont comment.
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Re: California is fucked [Re: rackem]
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I'll be interested to see what effect the law has. Not 100% sure where I stand on gun control, I keep vacillating. I think people should be allowed to own guns, but I'm not sure what sort of restrictions/controls should be in place around them if any
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well at least you have a fair assessment. i used to live in california, my phone blew up today with gun owners in california about these new 'laws' all it is going to do is make people 'engineer' new guns.. that is all..
on the flip side of that, california has way to much momentum right now for them to stop, expect more laws in the blue states.
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koods
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luvdemboomers said: I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral Either way, it's not about what you need, I don't need a fucking reason to own guns. Its my right. The 2nd amendment clearly states "shall not be infringed."
That is a radical interpretation of the second amendment and it is not supported by any court in this country, even conservative dominated ones. Very similar bans to California's have been upheld as not violating the second amendment many times, as recently as two weeks ago.
It doesn't say "your right to have any gun you want shall not be infringed." It gives you the right to own things like handguns, shotguns and rifles that you have to load after each shot.
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morrowasted said: I'll be interested to see what effect the law has. Not 100% sure where I stand on gun control, I keep vacillating. I think people should be allowed to own guns, but I'm not sure what sort of restrictions/controls should be in place around them if any
If you don't think gun control works, consider how many people are killed with machine guns in the United States. Not many. You'd think they would be very popular with mass shooters and terrorists, but they are banned and have been for decades.
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Re: California is fucked [Re: koods]
#23406033 - 07/03/16 03:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can legally buy an M60 Machine Gun amongst others... just has to be 1986 or older and correct licensing
Obviously a semi-auto rifle is much better for killing people for the given situations, lighter, more efficient, better control, etc.
Lugging around a 25lb gun (w/o) ammo is some serious work when you have a lot of people to kill
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LuSiD enthusiast said: The thing that confuses me is the people saying we need to defend against the government. Hypothetical scenario.
Cops go into your house serving a no knock warrant and they meant to go into your neighbors house instead .(this scenario happens so much it baffles me, idk how cops can fuck up so royally and get away with it, but it happens constantly)
Can we agree this is a situation that warrants using a fully auto rifle to defend your family? Let's say you do. Your even more fucked then if you bent over and took those pigs cocks right where they wanted to put them. Now no matter how good your lawyer is you are fucked. End of discussion.
We haven't been able to defend against the government for years and are in a situation where you never will, unless you can take a out a whole army by yourself.
Idk i kinda lost track of where i was going with this, but it cracks me up that people in this wonderful nation think we still have any right to defend and rise agains the government. If you are today those rights were never around in ykur lifetime.
Why are you talking about fully automatic rifles?
Anyways, I think the idea is that an armed population can join together to form a militia if things get really bad. Not sure I worded it the best and i doubt it is why most people own guns just saying most people who say it is important to be armed to protect themselves against the government do not mean shooting a cop for violating your rights.
I was just using it as an example. No matter what gun you use, god forbid the person on the other side of the barrel isn't brown enough or they have a badge you are permanently fucked harder than you've ever been in one swift action. Even if you are fully in the right and were defending for your life, you better hope the judge sees it that way or you may as well be shooting yourself.
I support the right to own and use pretty much any firearm, but personally when the risks are so high i don't want to find myself in the situation where i am defending myself and just because one person disagrees, my life is fucking ruined.
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Listening to politicians speak about our MSR Modern Sporting Rifles disgusts me. They have no clue from a magazine to a clip to what AR stand for in AR15. To own an automatic rifle you do have to apply for a permit with the ATF which is very expensive. There is no such thing as an assault rifle. Assault is something you do, the human aspect of the rifle. Their will be a revolution before we are disarmed. Once disarmed we will not be free.
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hostileuniverse
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Re: California is fucked [Re: koods]
#23406221 - 07/03/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said:
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luvdemboomers said: I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral Either way, it's not about what you need, I don't need a fucking reason to own guns. Its my right. The 2nd amendment clearly states "shall not be infringed."
That is a radical interpretation of the second amendment and it is not supported by any court in this country, even conservative dominated ones. Very similar bans to California's have been upheld as not violating the second amendment many times, as recently as two weeks ago.
It doesn't say "your right to have any gun you want shall not be infringed." It gives you the right to own things like handguns, shotguns and rifles that you have to load after each shot.
The 2A says the federal govt can't infringe your gun rights, states can all they want. That's why these retarded rulings are upheld.
As for a "well regulated militia" when the constitutions was written, the citizenry was the militia. There was no organized militia and they already had an army.
As for "single shot loads", yes that's horseshit, show me in where it says that, if you can't, you should really stop lying
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Masked]
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Masked
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Masked said: I applaud California
On a related note:
http://www.salon.com/2016/07/02/watch_bill_maher_rubs_californias_success_in_the_face_of_republicans/

I have no idea how 400 billion in debt can be considered a success...
http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php
So is he making shit up when he says surplus of 11 billion or whatever he said?
Or is your article making shit up?
Genuinely curious? I don't follow states related matters much
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luvdemboomers
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Masked]
#23406408 - 07/03/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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why would you support such tight gun restrictions? You realize all it does is infringe on the rights of law abiding gun owners?
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rackem



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hes not from the states man. they all have different ideas then we do.
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Masked
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Re: California is fucked [Re: rackem]
#23406469 - 07/03/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We have gun nuts here too who are frustrated with our legislation.
But our policies make it more difficult for some deranged fuck to just legally buy a weapon specifically designed to mow human beings down, walk into a school and take out innocent children. 
Of course, you can't mitigate "crazy" entirely....weapons can be stolen of course or bought illegally.
I feel your lax gun policies are the reason it's so easy to have these massacres.
And here is where someone brings up "Chicago stats" 
It doesn't do much good unless the entire country is unified on gun control and policies IMO 
We have to go through courses and training to get our possession license. And to own a handgun, one must go a step further and apply for restricted possession. You can't have any convictions, references are provided, etc. They dig up your past. If you have a "colorful" history with an ex wife even, for example, they require her reference.
You get in huge shit if we are caught with a handgun outside a shooting range even if you have your restricted . And if driving to a range, it must be in a lock box and all that sort of stuff.
I support it fully, while it frustrates my gun crazy redneck friends who feel it's their "right" to own such a device free and clear. to that thinking
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