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Re: California is fucked [Re: tdubz]
    #23408881 - 07/03/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hillary would never be indicted your crazy if you think so. It would disrupt the entire political system.



I don't understand why everyone thinks she's so untouchable.... Big political figures have gone down in the past, and they will do so again.

You're obviously slurping up the media's "nothings going to happen! the Clinton are invincible!" story... well they're fucking wrong like usual :lol:

When the FBI has 150 agents and the head of FBI himself is investigating you for corruption, thousands of counts of mishandling of classified materials, and who knows what the fuck else - you are more than likely in deep shit. The entire government isn't just a big masturbatory circle, there are more than a few powerful people who will be happy to see her burn, and the head of FBI himself will more than likely make sure that anyone who gets in his way will pay the price. He's that type of man.

The democratic party acting like everything is hunky dorey and nothing is happening is far from proof they are not completely fucked. They're idiots who think they can hinge this all on Loretta Lynch... but if she doesn't indict based on the recommendation of the the FBI, they will likely release so much evidence that Lynch, most of the DoJ, Clinton herself, and anyone connected to her will burn.

This is the biggest corruption case since Nixon and it's bigger than that. Make no mistake about its seriousness.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408898 - 07/03/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If she was going to be it would have happened already not right before the conventions. Also that's another reason why I'm going to vote for her because I'm sure the FBI investigation left a sour taste in her mouth guilty or not.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: tdubz]
    #23408910 - 07/03/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If she was going to be it would have happened already not right before the conventions. Also that's another reason why I'm going to vote for her because I'm sure the FBI investigation left a sour taste in her mouth guilty or not.



The head of the FBI doesn't give a fuck about political expediency, why would he give a shit what the democratic party is doing? He'll release the findings when they're finished. And no sooner or later. Do you think they're carrying out this massive investigation for fun at this point? It's taking so much resources and time because the trail of corruption is that deep, and there is that much evidence to review.

Why would you ever vote for someone who has shown to have such a deep disrespect for this country, who is basically guilty of treason :facepalm:


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408912 - 07/03/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The FBI is not above the Clinton's in power my friend you got it twisted. Especially with Obama as president.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: tdubz] * 1
    #23408916 - 07/03/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The FBI is not above the Clinton's in power my friend you got it twisted.



They are though. What is anyone going to do to the FBI? They are nearly politically invulnerable. Clinton may have powerful friends and the backing of the DNC but they do not own the whole government. The FBI has full backing of the other half of the government (GOP).. and trust me they want to see her go down as much as anyone else.

If she were as powerful as you think, this investigation would've never gone this far.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408924 - 07/03/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There are much higher forces at work here than the FBI.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408929 - 07/03/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why did the 'higher forces' let this whole investigation happen then? This has taken its own path, and nothing short of killing half the FBI is going to stop it.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408938 - 07/03/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Democrats aren't liberals, and republicans aren't conservatives. It's really not a arguable point




you're right, apparently liberal is a dirty word to liberals now so they call them
selves progressives which simply means accelerated fascism, and republicans arent
conservatives, they're liberals since it seems half were democrats just a few
elections ago but of course they like to call themselves moderates which means
they're lying liberals in elephant's clothers

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Why are you so defensive of the shit republican party? Just admit they both blow and move on independently from there :lol:




why are you so defensive of the democrats, all i did was point out what they've
done that you seem to want to attribute to the republicans


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408942 - 07/03/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twighead said:
Why did the 'higher forces' let this whole investigation happen then? This has taken its own path, and nothing short of killing half the FBI is going to stop it.





obama can stop it

http://observer.com/2016/07/exclusive-security-source-details-bill-clinton-maneuver-to-meet-loretta-lynch/


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23408956 - 07/03/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not defensive of democrats, I'm defensive of the misused language :smilingpuppy:

Seeing as you refer to everyone as liberals - when most aren't.

But whatever, most people are constantly confused since the actual definitions of the words themselves are nearly opposite to the politics attached to them nowadays.

Liberalism started ideologically as pursuing an equal playing field (no special treatment of anyone) and personal freedoms being a priority. Basically every notable 'founding father' of the US was a liberal.

Conservatism's roots are in regressionism and maintaining the burgeious monarchy :smilingpuppy:

Modern conservatisms seem to strive towards classical liberalism, and who knows what the fuck to call modern liberalism - as the movement is so internally fragmented and hijacked it's nearly every direction at once, except the ones that it was founded upon.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23408965 - 07/03/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twighead said:
Why did the 'higher forces' let this whole investigation happen then? This has taken its own path, and nothing short of killing half the FBI is going to stop it.





obama can stop it

http://observer.com/2016/07/exclusive-security-source-details-bill-clinton-maneuver-to-meet-loretta-lynch/



He could pardon her... but judging from his past behavior the FBI head is not someone to be fucked with like this... if he believes that Clinton is a seriously corrupt individual, and danger to the US - he will do everything in his power to take her down. And once he is finished with the investigation, that power isn't in the office - it's in the incredibly damning information that he will have to ruin almost every career that has touched Clinton's. I think that she will ultimately be sacrificed by her friends to ensure their own safety. There have been previous cases where people have attempted to obstruct James Comey's investigations, big and small alike, and those have not ended positively for the obstructionists.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23408996 - 07/04/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Obama is the head of the FBI, under Obama is Loretta Lynch and under lynch is the
director of the FBI. all they are doing is going through the motions just as they
did with every other scandal under obama's reign


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Re: California is fucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23409005 - 07/04/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They can choose to not indict based on the FBI recommendation - but I think that Comey would be happy to resign and release all the data publicly and say fuck it to any actions that may come of it. The man gets seriously pissed off by both corruption and political fuckery. That data would wreck absolute havoc.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23409030 - 07/04/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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They can choose to not indict based on the FBI recommendation - but I think that Comey would be happy to resign and release all the data publicly and say fuck it to any actions that may come of it. The man gets seriously pissed off by both corruption and political fuckery. That data would wreck absolute havoc.




seems a lot of people have resigned under the obama reign but no information has been forthcoming


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Re: California is fucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23409034 - 07/04/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

are they only investigating her for the email thing? or is she also being investigated for all the money that went missing under her watch?


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Re: California is fucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23409037 - 07/04/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think Comey is an outlier as far as having high integrity, dedication to doing the right thing and a special hate for governmental corruption. It also doesn't hurt that he has hard proofs taken directly from the criminal... Unsubstantiated claims haven't historically done much in the case of resignees/defectors. There have been lower level attempts from Snowden and Manning though their position and methods didn't allow them to do near as much as I believe Comey could.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: rackem]
    #23409040 - 07/04/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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are they only investigating her for the email thing? or is she also being investigated for all the money that went missing under her watch?



They're pretty tight lipped but it seems to have started with emails but has become a general corruption and mishandling of classified materials investigation. Possibly collusion with foreign governments.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: twighead]
    #23409470 - 07/04/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

CA is a slave state, would never live there


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Re: California is fucked [Re: LuzaW]
    #23409488 - 07/04/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nor Cal seems pretty tight, Socal seems like sin central.


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Re: California is fucked [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23409754 - 07/04/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Why would any civilian ever need a fully automatic firearm anyway?

I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral reason people could ever need to carry street sweeping/crowd stopping power.




my dad calls it "crowd control"


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