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luvdemboomers
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California is fucked 3
#23404591 - 07/02/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/01/484399958/6-new-gun-control-laws-enacted-in-california-as-gov-brown-signs-bills
Semi automatic rifles with quickly detachable magazines are going to be made illegal as well as magazines over 10 rounds. Back around the turn of the millenium they banned hi capacity mags but grandfathered in ones currently owned by citizens. Come 2017 those citizens will become criminals if they do not turn them in. It's death by a million paper cuts they take a little at a time to make it seem reasonable and then a decade later they take a little more, then a little more. They haven't outright banned semi auto rifles but they did effectively ban 95% of them. Mark my word in another decade or two they will outright ban them.
What I found was funny is that the day the bill was announced, bullet button, the manufacturer that created a device (that will be banned come 2017) that circumvented previous detachable magazine laws announced a new device that allows AR-15 owners to permanently fix the magazine to their lower receiver and load the magazine with stripper clips from the top by partially removing a single takedown pin. Of course, the politicians really don't give a shit about that, it's all about politics and furthering their agenda.
But hey, atleast we will be getting dangerous guns off the street. I'm sure MS-13 and cartel members will be lining up to turn in their magazines.
Edited by luvdemboomers (07/02/16 04:57 PM)
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I would move out of Cali and into a state that allows my 2nd Amendment Right, before i give the government my protection.
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Edited by Anahata (07/02/16 05:10 PM)
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The politicians always do these things to make names for them selves. They love the feeling of being the "Stand up man", the emotions, the emotions, the emotions!!!
Anytime they can throw in emotion it will happen.
Emotional stirs are the desired effects of these people who want to take away are arms.
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YOU HEAR THAT GANGSTERS!!! YOU NEED TO TURN IN ALL YOUR FULLY AUTO ASSAULT RIFLES NOW OR YOU GO TO JAIL!!! Also turn in your drugs and stop the senseless violence because that's illegal too.
Man it feels good to do a good deed for the day. Hell i think i hear some of those gangsters starting up their cars right now to go turn themselves in.
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luvdemboomers
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Anahata]
#23404689 - 07/02/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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for those of you who are not familiar with guns, here are a few of many guns that fall under the ban. They aren't just banning the usual guns that look scary.



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Prisoner#1
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luvdemboomers said: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/01/484399958/6-new-gun-control-laws-enacted-in-california-as-gov-brown-signs-bills
Semi automatic rifles with quickly detachable magazines are going to be made illegal as well as magazines over 10 rounds. Back around the turn of the millenium they banned hi capacity mags but grandfathered in ones currently owned by citizens. Come 2017 those citizens will become criminals if they do not turn them in.
actually the window to turn them in has already passed, the high cap mag ban was a decade ago, they then instituted a system in which a tool had top be used to detach magazines of any size in rifles, it was called the "bullet button", they banned 'assault weapons' such as the AK-47 and the AR-15 and only allow california legal variants because you know, making it look stupid makes it less lethal

so what is california doing? pretty much just passing the same laws all over again
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But hey, atleast we will be getting dangerous guns off the street.
is that what they're doing?
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luvdemboomers
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23404716 - 07/02/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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luvdemboomers said: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/01/484399958/6-new-gun-control-laws-enacted-in-california-as-gov-brown-signs-bills
Semi automatic rifles with quickly detachable magazines are going to be made illegal as well as magazines over 10 rounds. Back around the turn of the millenium they banned hi capacity mags but grandfathered in ones currently owned by citizens. Come 2017 those citizens will become criminals if they do not turn them in.
actually the window to turn them in has already passed, the high cap mag ban was a decade ago, they then instituted a system in which a tool had top be used to detach magazines of any size in rifles, it was called the "bullet button", they banned 'assault weapons' such as the AK-47 and the AR-15 and only allow california legal variants because you know, making it look stupid makes it less lethal

so what is california doing? pretty much just passing the same laws all over again
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But hey, atleast we will be getting dangerous guns off the street.
is that what they're doing?
From what I've read, the 2000 ban grandfathered them in and the new ban is the one requiring them to be surrendered.
Edited by luvdemboomers (07/02/16 05:31 PM)
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Wait a minute, all the progressive gun hating idiots here have been saying for months there is NO effort underway to ban or confiscate guns!
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Now the mexicans will just ship them in.
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let's place bets: how long before anarchy ensues and martial law is imposed?
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It's inevitable... All guns will be banned, maybe a few will be allowed for hunting to those few who undergo strenuous procedures and pass. In the end we will all be slaves to the system / the elite / the government. We will be utterly defenseless to defend against possible dictators or extreme government corruption, not to mention defending against any other possible scenario; crime, invasion, etc.
Soon we'll have Chappie-style robot cops/military/workers. The peasants (+95% of all humanity) will be completely at the mercy of the elite. We will have to pray that they don't start culling the population and that they provide welfare to the population when 90% of the jobs are done by machines.
It's a strange world we're heading towards. Best it looks like is most of us would be able to dedicate our time to artistic pursuits and creation in general. Which is pretty awesome.
So long as the system doesn't eliminate us all that is...
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Ezuma] 2
#23404748 - 07/02/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why would any civilian ever need a fully automatic firearm anyway?
I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral reason people could ever need to carry street sweeping/crowd stopping power.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Why would any civilian ever need a fully automatic firearm anyway?
I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral reason people could ever need to carry street sweeping/crowd stopping power.
I don't know man but people sure do get worked up about it
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Why? For defense against either criminals or the government if there ever was a revolution / civil war. (Doubt it though)
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Fools Crow]
#23404762 - 07/02/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fools Crow said: Why? For defense against either criminals or the government if there ever was a revolution / civil war. (Doubt it though)
not that it'd help much against modern tech... I mean should we all have predator drones to really even the playing field? I dunno where the best place to draw the lien is, I'm not gonna pretend I do. I feel like both the gun nuts and the terrified libs are rather overstating their positions tho in general
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Fools Crow] 1
#23404763 - 07/02/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, so if it was against the government/babylon + it's enforcers = well, there's like a million times more of us than then, ergo, semi auto necessary at best.
Revolution/civil war = well, then you just all kill yourselves more quickly, and that would be pretty foolish would it not?
Seriously, I cannot come up with a possible reason it is logistically necessary...
It's like arguing your right to keep a nuclear warhead in the back garden.
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Re: California is fucked [Re: Fools Crow]
#23404767 - 07/02/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well that's fucking lame, I'll keep an eye on the murder rates and gun crime rates after this, but I doubt it will be any better. I was thinking of moving to California until somewhat recently. Idk what I was thinking, me and California simply are not compatible
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luvdemboomers
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Jokeshopbeard said: Why would any civilian ever need a fully automatic firearm anyway?
I don't get it. I like the idea of having the option of one's right to carry stopping power, but I see no moral reason people could ever need to carry street sweeping/crowd stopping power.
fully automatic weapons were banned decades ago
before pris corrects me, you can apply to the atf to purchase one but it will run you 20k+ to purchase one if you are approved and that price is increasing every year as there is a finite supply as only guns registered prior to 1986 can be purchased. So it's pretty much not feasible for the average joe to buy one let alone feed it.
All of this discussion of assult rifle bans is about banning semi automatic rifles that you have to pull the trigger for every bullet fired, just like a revolver or pistol. California took it a step further by banning every semi auto with a magazine, which is almost every semi auto. This includes a lot of hunting rifles.
Either way, it's not about what you need, I don't need a fucking reason to own guns. Its my right. The 2nd amendment clearly states "shall not be infringed."
Edited by luvdemboomers (07/02/16 06:02 PM)
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I'm not saying we should have a revolution... Although if we wanted to it would have to be done within the next few decades given the way the system is encompassing and controlling our lives and particular our ability to defend against it it would be impossible once their conditions are in place. Best that could be achieved would be an insurgency that wouldn't likely go anywhere but cause death and destruction.
It's the way it is. If there isn't a revolution in the next few decades we will be destined to be at the mercy or the elite within the century.
That said.... If we did revolt we would likely trigger a domino effect with other nations following suit. In the end the world would he devastated and much of our progress will be lost or severely set back. It's possible that Russia or China or even North Korea and a few other nations could hold out against such rebellions and thus be able to capitalize on such an even and thus it's entirely possible a select few nations could seize a lot of control via conquering collapses nations.
It's precarious as fuck.
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There is no reason to have fully auto, and they have been banned since the '30's, not really sure why progressives keep referring to semi autos as fully auto, maybe it's to advance an agenda, I don't know but it's fucking stupid
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