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Population Control is the future.
    #23404560 - 07/02/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

About i hour into this called Memories from the future, a guy wakes up out of a coma and has stories from the future(<--summed up short really good background) at this point he tells how people in love and want to have a child have to go the states office, he says it's a big deal and they don't want a repeat of the 24th century. The year wrote about is 3906.

I wish we could start this off sooner to help shorten the amount of trouble it is sure to cause.




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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata] * 3
    #23404586 - 07/02/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like a better alternative is actually managing our available resources better. I agree some sort of population control could be a good thing though.

But if every couple "in love" only had one child our population could shrink drastically over a few generations which could be good and bad.

A system where every couple can have one kid for free and then need to pay an increasing fee for each additional one could work, that way impoverished people wouldn't be having tons of kids and collecting $ from the government on them. Some sort of incentive is what I am saying I guess, I am not sure what would work the best though...


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23404617 - 07/02/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How would it be enforced? 

Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?

Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches,  to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
    #23404637 - 07/02/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Glameow said:
How would it be enforced? 

Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?

Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches,  to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.




THey are teaching contraception in kindergarten nowadays, the population control mechanism is already in full force


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
    #23404780 - 07/02/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How would it be enforced? 





Infanticide


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23404807 - 07/02/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How would it be enforced? 





Infanticide




Shall we discuss the fact that now that late term abortion has now been exposed for what it is, and still wholeheartedly supported, that now some have begun to toss around the idea of "afterbirth abortions"?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse] * 5
    #23404824 - 07/02/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I cringe everytime I read a hostile universe post. :ifyoucanawe:


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23404835 - 07/02/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I cringe everytime I read a hostile universe post. :ifyoucanawe:




Sometimes the truth can be frightening:sad:


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23404843 - 07/02/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm all for after birth abortions, up until the age of 1 year and 2 months that is. Beyond that is a bit inhumane, but the brain isn't quite developed until around that point anyway.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23404855 - 07/02/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The US isn't where population control is needed anyways. We're doing alight.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23404860 - 07/02/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think population control will need to be enforced. The trend is for the birthrate to drop as more of the world becomes civilized, and unless we get really Machiavellian and nationalistic in the next few decades imo quality of life inthe third world will continue to improve, and the birth rate go down


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] * 2
    #23404872 - 07/02/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i hope you kid. otherwise man you need help!


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23404941 - 07/02/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Glameow said:
How would it be enforced? 




Infanticide




Shall we discuss the fact that now that late term abortion has now been exposed for what it is, and still wholeheartedly supported, that now some have begun to toss around the idea of "afterbirth abortions"?




In the proper context I'm all for it, there is a precedent with this, and day old babies are as conscious as a flower. Same for fetus', they lack the conscious mind of an animal.

Modern man cringes too much and does more harm than good in the process.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23405031 - 07/02/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.

That seems like a really shitty excuse to condone killing a baby...


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23405036 - 07/02/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.

That seems like a really shitty excuse to condone killing a baby...




I consider all organisms to be living and conscious to some degree, perhaps even the basic elements.

That being said, I don't share your squeamishness, no excuses are necessary on my part as I do not care.
Infanticide plays a role in the greater good of society for many animals, including humans.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23405053 - 07/02/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How about people just be a little more cautious to not make babies they don't intend to raise?

That seems like a much easier and more humane option then essentially putting them down like an unwanted pet...


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23405065 - 07/02/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

there is nothing easy about personal responsibility. look at the situation drugs are in, a perfect world people would be able to party how ever they wanted...

i don't really even care to try and take on post birth abortions, look at how just late term is still fought in the less progressive areas. it is like extending gay marriage to marrying your dog... a pointless strawman.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23405069 - 07/02/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't actually recommend infanticide, but its not out of the question to me.

People should be responsible enough to have less children, or to hold back until financially capable before having even one child. 2 per couple should be perfectly acceptable.

There are better ways of motivating people in this direction than infanticide, but as a last resort in places where people show no responsibility and pop out 18 babies at a time... they're already demonstrating the undesirability of their genetics through sheer idiocy, so I see no problem in sterilizing, or culling them. Sadly I've known several people who come from families of literally up to 2 dozen children.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata]
    #23405176 - 07/02/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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i hope you kid. otherwise man you need help!



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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23405211 - 07/02/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Read up on Exxon since the 1970's


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23405254 - 07/02/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.




Hmmm, so if it's inhumane to eat animals due to the pain caused in killing them, if plants feel pain too, it's probably inhumane to eat plants.  Crap.  WHAT WILL I EAT?!


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Mr.Mouse]
    #23405274 - 07/02/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

aw fuck you for telling me that
I always assumed being on fire was good for it because then it's outer layers will fall of and other sprouts will grow


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Konyap]
    #23405295 - 07/02/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its also good for the herd when the weak are culled by predators, death is essential for life.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23405310 - 07/02/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Its also good for the herd when the weak are culled by predators, death is essential for life.




It's all the rage in China


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23405344 - 07/02/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shanghai has a population of 22 million people, I don't think they grasp the concept.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23405383 - 07/02/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shanghai has a population of 22 million people, I don't think they grasp the concept.




Don't they have a one child policy? don't people kill their children for being the wrong gender?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23405406 - 07/02/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, there's progress I guess.

The gender thing is just random, doesn't really fit the context of the herd before the individual.
More like the individual (parent) before the herd.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23406142 - 07/03/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Glameow said:
How would it be enforced? 

Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?

Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches,  to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.




THey are teaching contraception in kindergarten nowadays, the population control mechanism is already in full force




But they aren't yet forcing people to use contraceptives.

If one wants...and gets pregnant. .. what would they do? Drag them for an abortion?  Assuming they find out before the kid is born?

It's unfeasible without greatly limiting  freedoms..and probably even then.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
    #23406156 - 07/03/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There are many discussions of population control already in affect.  The question is how to stop the rise in population.  A large portion of the population was accidental.  I feel the amount of intellect in our current society is dropping significantly.  A large amount of this is due to social media and the fact that many children are unwanted.  This is a subject that is hard to speak on through writing.  However something does have to done to control the whole worlds population.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: drolman] * 1
    #23406174 - 07/03/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23406183 - 07/03/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm all for after birth abortions, up until the age of 1 year and 2 months that is. Beyond that is a bit inhumane, but the brain isn't quite developed until around that point anyway.




That's murder bro

jk I'm all for arbortions up till 18 years old that'll keep those little fuckers in line


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23406211 - 07/03/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Does this mean it's okay to bomb 3rd world brown countries now?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23406232 - 07/03/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think a better solution would be to bomb said countries with condoms and tell them that actually, it's OK to use them.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: twighead]
    #23406516 - 07/03/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twighead said:
The US isn't where population control is needed anyways. We're doing alight.




The entire developed world is where it is probably needed the most.
We are the biggest resource hogs on the planet and so wasteful of them. 

Just look at the great waste bonanzas of gift giving like Christmas, do Americans give gifts on thanksgiving and the forth of July too?
I'm sure there are plenty more such events across Europe as well.
Some parts of the developing world must have some too, but ours just compounds our already wasteful use.
 
We've gotten into a tradition of buying stuff for everyone we know, even adults, that they probably don't want, or need. If they did they would have gone out and bought the crap for themselves already.

Altogether now...Scrooge?

Population control will be taken care of by nature soon enough, with her vast array of germs and their wonderful, if scary, ability to mutate, and our inability to produce new medicines fast enough.

A bit of Eugenics of the kind Hitler used, putting down unhealthy babies at birth.
Used to popular in the US too, though I'm not sure they went as far as the "putting down" bit. But Hitler made the very idea unpalatable.
Euthenasia wont go very far, but, every little helps, as they say.

The little we can do, without fullscale war, won't amount to much I think.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23406565 - 07/03/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think a better solution would be to bomb said countries with condoms and tell them that actually, it's OK to use them.




Some of you might find this site interesting.

http://www.breathingearth.net/

Gives all manner of information as you mouse over each country, among them, birth/death rates and co2 production.
Clicking on any country brings up "useful climate change links".


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23406682 - 07/03/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I feel like a better alternative is actually managing our available resources better. I agree some sort of population control could be a good thing though.

But if every couple "in love" only had one child our population could shrink drastically over a few generations which could be good and bad.

A system where every couple can have one kid for free and then need to pay an increasing fee for each additional one could work, that way impoverished people wouldn't be having tons of kids and collecting $ from the government on them. Some sort of incentive is what I am saying I guess, I am not sure what would work the best though...




No. No that wouldn't work. People already have kids they can't afford. Have you not heard of the poor single mother raising 5 kids by herself in a tiny ghetto apartment? Even IF the government stopped paying for it there would still be people trying to tie a man into taking care of them or people who are just plain old baby crazy and want children no matter the circumstance (I've had personal experience with this type.)


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23406883 - 07/03/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say it would go into effect for everyone who already has kids.

That clearly wouldn't be feasible, but it could be incentive for less people to have kids down the line if they weren't getting paid for them :shrug: then we just need some kind of law to protect us from gold digging baby crazies.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23407529 - 07/03/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:





Does this mean it's okay to bomb 3rd world brown countries now?




:strokebeard:  depends more on resource consumption and their contribution to pollution

Basically, if a nation like China has an insanely large population, burns through unreasonable resources and pollutes at a similar rate, I could get behind leveling them out. It would be hypocritical though considering our own contribution to the issues which come with overpopulation, especially with our relatively small population.

Anyways, down the line when resources become a real famine level issue, that's essentially what will happen regardless of who's to blame. The 3rd world is fucked.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #23408111 - 07/03/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Population control naturally comes of its own accord if you have women's rights, education and access to reproductive health care.  If the rest of the world ever bothers to embrace these ideas the population will be controlled organically without outside force.  Population already has slowed growth thanks to these ideas.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23408554 - 07/03/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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100+ years ago you had a million kids because you needed those kids to help you with the ungodly amount of work that you had to do.  The developing countries aren't having more kids than everyone else because they don't know about condoms.  They need a shit ton of people to bulldoze everything, build roads, power plants, wallmarts, a mcdonalds every 3 miles on every road, gucci, highrises, and public parks.  There is a whole shit ton of work to be done in order to catch up to all of us civilized folk.

*EDIT:  Also the fact that everyone seems to prefer giving the governments of the world power to go around killing babies over steering this whole boat in a new direction is a bit disturbing.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: WeiliiCoyote]
    #23408575 - 07/03/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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*EDIT:  Also the fact that everyone seems to prefer giving the governments of the world power to go around killing babies over steering this whole boat in a new direction is a bit disturbing.




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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: WeiliiCoyote] * 2
    #23408622 - 07/03/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm happy if hostileuniverse is aborted


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: viktor]
    #23486102 - 07/28/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

When will pop control be a hot topic like say climate or energy?...because baci cally they are all interconnected.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata]
    #23486163 - 07/28/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pop control is not happening, instead there will be a mass disease epidemic that'll reduce the world population significantly within <20 years


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: trees]
    #23486351 - 07/28/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Population control is already here, it's called abortion


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23486784 - 07/28/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Population control is already here, it's called abortion




Abortion alone doesn't put much of a dent in the population.
For every one you take from the bottom via abortion, you'd need to take at least one from the top via Euthanasia to prevent an ageing imbalance in the population.
At the very least Euthanasia should be legal, and without all this bullshit:

"...people with fewer than six months to live could have been prescribed a lethal dose of drugs, which they had to be able to take themselves. Two doctors and a High Court judge would have needed to approve each case."

We should have a referendum on the issue. Fuck what judges, doctors, and goddamn politicians think on the subject. We should have the right to 'opt out' when we feel the time is right. Never mind all this emotional bullshit:
"...Dr Philippa Whitford ( no doubt some sort of fucking christian) the SNP's health spokeswoman and a breast cancer surgeon, argued that with good palliative care, the "journey can lead to a beautiful death".
We should support letting people live every day of their lives till the end," she said, and she urged MPs to vote for "life and dignity, not death".


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23486809 - 07/28/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

real population control is education and secularism


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata]
    #23486820 - 07/28/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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About i hour into this called Memories from the future, a guy wakes up out of a coma and has stories from the future(<--summed up short really good background) at this point he tells how people in love and want to have a child have to go the states office, he says it's a big deal and they don't want a repeat of the 24th century. The year wrote about is 3906.





This actually sounds like the plot of a Dystopian-themed book I was going to write, it's about how the government controls every aspect of your life. And people who want to procreate essentially have to be "pre-selected" by the government and pass a series of tests in order to prove their physical aptitude as well as emotional and mental intelligence. From then on, babies are grown artificially in laboratories, and baby-making will turn into the most unromantic, scientific venture ever.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23486854 - 07/28/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But if every couple "in love" only had one child our population could shrink drastically over a few generations which could be good and bad.




I don't know how people in this day and age can intentionally choose to have 5 kids.

I've literally seen families that breed like cockroaches, there might be like 500 people within a family in only THREE generations. Like jesus, in 50 years, you could easily be the size of a small country. Some of these people have TWELVE, NINETEEN kids. Then if each of their kids has 5 kids, that's already 60 to 95 kids. In one generation. Then say those kids have 3 kids, etcetera. Cockroach people, man.

Part of the reason that contributes to the high number of kids too, is divorce and remarriage rates. When people remarry, they often look to have kids with their new partner, and if they have 2 or 3 kids from a previous marriage, then they could easily end up with 5 or more if they remarry to 1 or 2 more partners in their lifetime.

These figures are even worse for people who don't use birth control. Mexicans, Latin Americans, Muslims, Catholics, Irish... This is why religion is toxic for our future.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #23486931 - 07/28/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Should have been implemented long ago
Population control is a matter of existential crisis- without implementing strict
Population control immediately humanity is doomed


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #23486938 - 07/28/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Population control naturally comes of its own accord if you have women's rights, education and access to reproductive health care.  If the rest of the world ever bothers to embrace these ideas the population will be controlled organically without outside force.  Population already has slowed growth thanks to these ideas.




This. A million times this. There's a reason developed countries have low reproduction rates.

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I'm all for after birth abortions, up until the age of 1 year and 2 months that is. Beyond that is a bit inhumane, but the brain isn't quite developed until around that point anyway.




That's murder bro

jk I'm all for arbortions up till 18 years old that'll keep those little fuckers in line


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Seriously topic though. What would people think about putting down horrible or violent children who are already showing psychopathic tendencies from a young age?

I'll give you 2 examples.

There was an American adoptive mother who went to Russia to adopt a 7 year old boy. Apparently shortly after adopting him and returning with him to her home country, she sent him back on a plane to Russia, alone, with a note explaining why she didn't want him anymore. She said that he was severely mentally ill, and that the adoption agency lied and grossly misrepresented his psychological well-being.

According to her, he would constantly throw tantrums where he would kick, hit, and spit at her. And he would make drawings of their house burning on fire, and constantly threaten to burn their house down with everybody inside while they were sleeping. He was like a 7 year old tyrant, clearly in the process of becoming a future criminal. People in the house were scared of him.

She was very chastised in the media and by the public for sending him back alone, but honestly, I don't blame her. Russian males are fucking insane! I would have given him back up for adoption if he was like that too. I'm sure her decision to do so wasn't taken lightly, especially from somebody who was charitable enough to spend thousands of dollars for an overseas adoption.

Then here's another example. My friend was foster caring several infants and toddlers that were in need of a temporary home. There was one time where she refused to care for a 3 year old, because this 3 year old was deranged. Apparently his parents were tweakers, meth addicts, and he had lived his whole life in a cage, very emaciated and covered in feces when authorities found him.

All the social workers warned my friend that she must not have any pets or other babies in the home. Apparently he had been kicked out of every single foster care home he had ever been in, because he would actually stab the eyes of pets in the home, rip out their eyes, and try to kill them. Same goes for infants. At 3 years old, he was already exhibiting extremely high levels of aggression, and parents were naturally afraid of him.

In cases like this, I mean, what other choice do you really have except to put them down? They're abandoned children, nobody loves them, they're already exhibiting hostile and violent criminal behavior, do they really have a chance?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Crystal G]
    #23490630 - 07/29/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn. Just when I thought I've heard it all.

That's a tough one, on one hand this person could grow up and be the one to invent something wonderful or cure a disease but on the other hand you have the time, costs, risks and after math of their destructive behavior that could also ruin generations.

I'm glad this can be discussed now, better to be prepared.

I'd have to say the first kid would have a better chance, but your second example, Idk if that could be saved.:feelsbadman:


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