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InvisibleMr.Mouse
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23405254 - 07/02/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.




Hmmm, so if it's inhumane to eat animals due to the pain caused in killing them, if plants feel pain too, it's probably inhumane to eat plants.  Crap.  WHAT WILL I EAT?!


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Mr.Mouse]
    #23405274 - 07/02/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

aw fuck you for telling me that
I always assumed being on fire was good for it because then it's outer layers will fall of and other sprouts will grow


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Konyap]
    #23405295 - 07/02/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its also good for the herd when the weak are culled by predators, death is essential for life.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23405310 - 07/02/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Its also good for the herd when the weak are culled by predators, death is essential for life.




It's all the rage in China


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23405344 - 07/02/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shanghai has a population of 22 million people, I don't think they grasp the concept.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23405383 - 07/02/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shanghai has a population of 22 million people, I don't think they grasp the concept.




Don't they have a one child policy? don't people kill their children for being the wrong gender?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23405406 - 07/02/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, there's progress I guess.

The gender thing is just random, doesn't really fit the context of the herd before the individual.
More like the individual (parent) before the herd.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23406142 - 07/03/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How would it be enforced? 

Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?

Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches,  to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.




THey are teaching contraception in kindergarten nowadays, the population control mechanism is already in full force




But they aren't yet forcing people to use contraceptives.

If one wants...and gets pregnant. .. what would they do? Drag them for an abortion?  Assuming they find out before the kid is born?

It's unfeasible without greatly limiting  freedoms..and probably even then.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
    #23406156 - 07/03/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There are many discussions of population control already in affect.  The question is how to stop the rise in population.  A large portion of the population was accidental.  I feel the amount of intellect in our current society is dropping significantly.  A large amount of this is due to social media and the fact that many children are unwanted.  This is a subject that is hard to speak on through writing.  However something does have to done to control the whole worlds population.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: drolman] * 1
    #23406174 - 07/03/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #23406183 - 07/03/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm all for after birth abortions, up until the age of 1 year and 2 months that is. Beyond that is a bit inhumane, but the brain isn't quite developed until around that point anyway.




That's murder bro

jk I'm all for arbortions up till 18 years old that'll keep those little fuckers in line


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23406211 - 07/03/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Does this mean it's okay to bomb 3rd world brown countries now?


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23406232 - 07/03/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think a better solution would be to bomb said countries with condoms and tell them that actually, it's OK to use them.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: twighead]
    #23406516 - 07/03/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The US isn't where population control is needed anyways. We're doing alight.




The entire developed world is where it is probably needed the most.
We are the biggest resource hogs on the planet and so wasteful of them. 

Just look at the great waste bonanzas of gift giving like Christmas, do Americans give gifts on thanksgiving and the forth of July too?
I'm sure there are plenty more such events across Europe as well.
Some parts of the developing world must have some too, but ours just compounds our already wasteful use.
 
We've gotten into a tradition of buying stuff for everyone we know, even adults, that they probably don't want, or need. If they did they would have gone out and bought the crap for themselves already.

Altogether now...Scrooge?

Population control will be taken care of by nature soon enough, with her vast array of germs and their wonderful, if scary, ability to mutate, and our inability to produce new medicines fast enough.

A bit of Eugenics of the kind Hitler used, putting down unhealthy babies at birth.
Used to popular in the US too, though I'm not sure they went as far as the "putting down" bit. But Hitler made the very idea unpalatable.
Euthenasia wont go very far, but, every little helps, as they say.

The little we can do, without fullscale war, won't amount to much I think.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23406565 - 07/03/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I think a better solution would be to bomb said countries with condoms and tell them that actually, it's OK to use them.




Some of you might find this site interesting.

http://www.breathingearth.net/

Gives all manner of information as you mouse over each country, among them, birth/death rates and co2 production.
Clicking on any country brings up "useful climate change links".


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
    #23406682 - 07/03/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I feel like a better alternative is actually managing our available resources better. I agree some sort of population control could be a good thing though.

But if every couple "in love" only had one child our population could shrink drastically over a few generations which could be good and bad.

A system where every couple can have one kid for free and then need to pay an increasing fee for each additional one could work, that way impoverished people wouldn't be having tons of kids and collecting $ from the government on them. Some sort of incentive is what I am saying I guess, I am not sure what would work the best though...




No. No that wouldn't work. People already have kids they can't afford. Have you not heard of the poor single mother raising 5 kids by herself in a tiny ghetto apartment? Even IF the government stopped paying for it there would still be people trying to tie a man into taking care of them or people who are just plain old baby crazy and want children no matter the circumstance (I've had personal experience with this type.)


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23406883 - 07/03/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say it would go into effect for everyone who already has kids.

That clearly wouldn't be feasible, but it could be incentive for less people to have kids down the line if they weren't getting paid for them :shrug: then we just need some kind of law to protect us from gold digging baby crazies.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23407529 - 07/03/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:





Does this mean it's okay to bomb 3rd world brown countries now?




:strokebeard:  depends more on resource consumption and their contribution to pollution

Basically, if a nation like China has an insanely large population, burns through unreasonable resources and pollutes at a similar rate, I could get behind leveling them out. It would be hypocritical though considering our own contribution to the issues which come with overpopulation, especially with our relatively small population.

Anyways, down the line when resources become a real famine level issue, that's essentially what will happen regardless of who's to blame. The 3rd world is fucked.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata] * 1
    #23408111 - 07/03/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Population control naturally comes of its own accord if you have women's rights, education and access to reproductive health care.  If the rest of the world ever bothers to embrace these ideas the population will be controlled organically without outside force.  Population already has slowed growth thanks to these ideas.


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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23408554 - 07/03/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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100+ years ago you had a million kids because you needed those kids to help you with the ungodly amount of work that you had to do.  The developing countries aren't having more kids than everyone else because they don't know about condoms.  They need a shit ton of people to bulldoze everything, build roads, power plants, wallmarts, a mcdonalds every 3 miles on every road, gucci, highrises, and public parks.  There is a whole shit ton of work to be done in order to catch up to all of us civilized folk.

*EDIT:  Also the fact that everyone seems to prefer giving the governments of the world power to go around killing babies over steering this whole boat in a new direction is a bit disturbing.


Edited by WeiliiCoyote (07/03/16 09:41 PM)


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