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Anahata


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Population Control is the future.
#23404560 - 07/02/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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About i hour into this called Memories from the future, a guy wakes up out of a coma and has stories from the future(<--summed up short really good background) at this point he tells how people in love and want to have a child have to go the states office, he says it's a big deal and they don't want a repeat of the 24th century. The year wrote about is 3906.
I wish we could start this off sooner to help shorten the amount of trouble it is sure to cause.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata] 3
#23404586 - 07/02/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like a better alternative is actually managing our available resources better. I agree some sort of population control could be a good thing though.
But if every couple "in love" only had one child our population could shrink drastically over a few generations which could be good and bad.
A system where every couple can have one kid for free and then need to pay an increasing fee for each additional one could work, that way impoverished people wouldn't be having tons of kids and collecting $ from the government on them. Some sort of incentive is what I am saying I guess, I am not sure what would work the best though...
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
#23404617 - 07/02/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How would it be enforced?
Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?
Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches, to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
#23404637 - 07/02/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Glameow said: How would it be enforced?
Contraceptives are still limited. ..and are we putting them on children before they can even consent?
Yeah, i don't think that's the answer. How about people stop chasing more and more riches, to spend on more and more material shit..that uses resources and takes up space.
THey are teaching contraception in kindergarten nowadays, the population control mechanism is already in full force
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Glameow]
#23404780 - 07/02/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Glameow said: How would it be enforced?
Infanticide
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89]
#23404807 - 07/02/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
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Glameow said: How would it be enforced?
Infanticide
Shall we discuss the fact that now that late term abortion has now been exposed for what it is, and still wholeheartedly supported, that now some have begun to toss around the idea of "afterbirth abortions"?
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I cringe everytime I read a hostile universe post.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23404835 - 07/02/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: I cringe everytime I read a hostile universe post. 
Sometimes the truth can be frightening
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PatrickKn



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I'm all for after birth abortions, up until the age of 1 year and 2 months that is. Beyond that is a bit inhumane, but the brain isn't quite developed until around that point anyway.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23404855 - 07/02/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The US isn't where population control is needed anyways. We're doing alight.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23404860 - 07/02/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think population control will need to be enforced. The trend is for the birthrate to drop as more of the world becomes civilized, and unless we get really Machiavellian and nationalistic in the next few decades imo quality of life inthe third world will continue to improve, and the birth rate go down
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn] 2
#23404872 - 07/02/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i hope you kid. otherwise man you need help!
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Repertoire89
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Quote:
hostileuniverse said:
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Repertoire89 said:
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Glameow said: How would it be enforced?
Infanticide
Shall we discuss the fact that now that late term abortion has now been exposed for what it is, and still wholeheartedly supported, that now some have begun to toss around the idea of "afterbirth abortions"?
In the proper context I'm all for it, there is a precedent with this, and day old babies are as conscious as a flower. Same for fetus', they lack the conscious mind of an animal.
Modern man cringes too much and does more harm than good in the process.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23405031 - 07/02/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.
That seems like a really shitty excuse to condone killing a baby...
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
#23405036 - 07/02/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Plants can feel pain and associate that pain with the source and become agitated when around the cause as shown in The Secret Life Of Plants.
That seems like a really shitty excuse to condone killing a baby...
I consider all organisms to be living and conscious to some degree, perhaps even the basic elements.
That being said, I don't share your squeamishness, no excuses are necessary on my part as I do not care. Infanticide plays a role in the greater good of society for many animals, including humans.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23405053 - 07/02/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How about people just be a little more cautious to not make babies they don't intend to raise?
That seems like a much easier and more humane option then essentially putting them down like an unwanted pet...
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
#23405065 - 07/02/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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there is nothing easy about personal responsibility. look at the situation drugs are in, a perfect world people would be able to party how ever they wanted...
i don't really even care to try and take on post birth abortions, look at how just late term is still fought in the less progressive areas. it is like extending gay marriage to marrying your dog... a pointless strawman.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: musiclover420]
#23405069 - 07/02/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't actually recommend infanticide, but its not out of the question to me.
People should be responsible enough to have less children, or to hold back until financially capable before having even one child. 2 per couple should be perfectly acceptable.
There are better ways of motivating people in this direction than infanticide, but as a last resort in places where people show no responsibility and pop out 18 babies at a time... they're already demonstrating the undesirability of their genetics through sheer idiocy, so I see no problem in sterilizing, or culling them. Sadly I've known several people who come from families of literally up to 2 dozen children.
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: Anahata]
#23405176 - 07/02/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anahata said: i hope you kid. otherwise man you need help!
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Re: Population Control is the future. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23405211 - 07/02/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Read up on Exxon since the 1970's
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