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hunter4life
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new york id
#23403680 - 07/02/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Growing on horse dung no noticeable bruising yett spore print still unknown hollow stem gills tan to Brown not attached to stem stem 2-3 inches long
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Anglerfish
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Pictures aren't good enough to be sure but please take a spore print.
From what I can see it would surprise me if this isn't Panaeolus cinctulus or something very close.
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MidnightCity
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Anglerfish said: Pictures aren't good enough to be sure but please take a spore print.
From what I can see it would surprise me if this isn't Panaeolus cinctulus or something very close.
Meh, good enough. Seems like textbook P. cinctulus, spore print never hurts though.
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Anglerfish
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MidnightCity said: Seems like
Exactly.
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textbook P. cinctulus
Textbooks usually have their pictures in focus.
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Dictionary said:
nitpicking noun [ mass noun ] informal fussy or pedantic fault-finding. nitpicking over tiny details. [ as modifier ] : a nitpicking legalistic exercise. DERIVATIVES nitpick verb, nitpicker noun, nitpicky adjective
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MycoGawd
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Hard to determine... a spore print would be rather helpful
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MidnightCity
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MycoGawd said: Hard to determine... a spore print would be rather helpful
Not really difficult, all but solved even.
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Anglerfish said:
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MidnightCity said: Seems like
Exactly.
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textbook P. cinctulus
Textbooks usually have their pictures in focus.
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nitpicking noun [ mass noun ] informal fussy or pedantic fault-finding. nitpicking over tiny details. [ as modifier ] : a nitpicking legalistic exercise. DERIVATIVES nitpick verb, nitpicker noun, nitpicky adjective
Maybe my agreement with your original conclusion was lost in translation? They aren't glamour shots by any means but it's pretty obvious they are P. cinctulus (or similar). I think you may be nit-picky about the quality of the photo as long as we're on the subject.
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hunter4life
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Thanks for helping guys I will have a spore print soon.
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Blazeyy
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it'll be jet black they are p. cinctulus on that substrate i wish i had piles like that, been in fields all week.
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hunter4life
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Re: new york id [Re: Blazeyy]
#23404162 - 07/02/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks blazzy been looking every place looked in wife's old pasture and bingo there's many other species out there what else should I be looking for
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Blazeyy
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Hmm not sure where you're located so go to this page and CTRL+F your location Quote:
https://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Anglerfish
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Blazeyy said: Hmm not sure where you're located so go to this page and CTRL+F your location Quote:
https://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
Title says New York. So P. cinctulus is within bounds for sure. They probably got horses, too. 

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MidnightCity said: [Maybe my agreement with your original conclusion was lost in translation? They aren't glamour shots by any means but it's pretty obvious they are P. cinctulus (or similar). I think you may be nit-picky about the quality of the photo as long as we're on the subject.
Yep, nitpicky on the pictures (tried to throw in a saggy middle-aged-man-kind-of-joke there). We agree - they are very suggestive, bordering on conclusive.
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Blazeyy
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Title says New York. So P. cinctulus is within bounds for sure. They probably got horses, too. 
I'm probably going to go with the horse fields, i'm dodging cows left right and centre here i just have no idea where to find that substrate i see horses but no piles 
The field is providing but they are suffering with foe syndrome, it's 50/50 brown/jet black and they all seem to look identical which is tedious.
Bit easier when they get older like this: 
cause it drops black spores all over the less mature caps underneath
Really need to find some piles.
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: new york id [Re: Blazeyy] 1
#23404229 - 07/02/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said: Really need to find some piles.
Piles are clearly where the action is. Unless P. semiovatus gets there first. I find them often owning the whole place.
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hunter4life
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Is there any P. cinctulus look alike that would grow on horse dung
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Blazeyy
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hunter4life said: Is there any P. cinctulus look alike that would grow on horse dung
I wouldn't say anything looks identical like that, other pan species maybe but they are blatant, papilionaceus, semiovatus, antillarum maybe some others idk you would know the difference i think, even with other actives you've done pretty well just to get that far in identifying, you seem to be on the right track
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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hunter4life
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Re: new york id [Re: Blazeyy]
#23404295 - 07/02/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice very exciting thanks man so nothing that will kill me that looks alike then? What should be first time dosage
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Blazeyy
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hunter4life said: Nice very exciting thanks man so nothing that will kill me that looks alike then? What should be first time dosage
i usually go between 35-45g wet or 3.5g - 4.5g dry that should be fine to test the waters and the potency.. then go from there.. they vary in potency a bit but they are a nice experience they are around the same potency as cubes but like i say they vary a bit so i'd start around there
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Anglerfish
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hunter4life said: Is there any P. cinctulus look alike that would grow on horse dung
There are species like P. subfirmus, P. fimicola and P. olivaceus that sometimes could look similar, but you'd need a microscope to separate them. I vaguely remember there have been posted collections previously, assumed to be P. cinctulus, but showing no activity at all when bioassayed.
If you're certain they are a Panaeolus sp., they aren't toxic at least.
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Re: new york id [Re: Blazeyy]
#23404417 - 07/02/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said:
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hunter4life said: Nice very exciting thanks man so nothing that will kill me that looks alike then? What should be first time dosage
i usually go between 35-45g wet or 3.5g - 4.5g dry that should be fine to test the waters and the potency.. then go from there.. they vary in potency a bit but they are a nice experience they are around the same potency as cubes but like i say they vary a bit so i'd start around there
45g of cubes would have me
If that's testing the water for you I would be interested to know what it takes when you're looking to get fucked up. 
I thought cinctulus were ment to be a bit weaker than cubes tho.
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Blazeyy
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Re: new york id [Re: weetsie]
#23404489 - 07/02/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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weetsie said:
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Blazeyy said:
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hunter4life said: Nice very exciting thanks man so nothing that will kill me that looks alike then? What should be first time dosage
i usually go between 35-45g wet or 3.5g - 4.5g dry that should be fine to test the waters and the potency.. then go from there.. they vary in potency a bit but they are a nice experience they are around the same potency as cubes but like i say they vary a bit so i'd start around there
45g of cubes would have me
If that's testing the water for you I would be interested to know what it takes when you're looking to get fucked up. 
I thought cinctulus were ment to be a bit weaker than cubes tho.
maybe cubes are a little bit stronger at the higher levels, i've not tried cubensis yet my usual would be 1-2g of libs but these are quite variable, 45g of subbs wet is about 1.2g dry libs give or take i guess or like 4g cubensis looking at the charts, i'm a lightweight really i don't have that much these are just quite weak in fields, not tried from padocs yet maybe they are stronger there
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With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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hunter4life
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Re: new york id [Re: Blazeyy]
#23404552 - 07/02/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Should I wait for them to get bigger
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Blazeyy
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if its close enough, i would =]
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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