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Psilocybin alcohol extraction
    #23403092 - 07/02/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys,
I have my dried myshrooms and some 96% alcohol and i want to do an alcohol extraction.
Will this alcohol work?


And which filters are recommended? Coffee filters?

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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: nornor]
    #23403097 - 07/02/16 04:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, coffee filters will work but I suggest you also use a cheesecloth because the coffee filters will clog very easy. Use the coffee filters to filter the gunk that is left by the cheesecloth.

That alcohol is great. I tried searching for it in my country but they don't import it. That's from poland right?


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403111 - 07/02/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, coffee filters will work but I suggest you also use a cheesecloth because the coffee filters will clog very easy. Use the coffee filters to filter the gunk that is left by the cheesecloth.

That alcohol is great. I tried searching for it in my country but they don't import it. That's from poland right?



No, I bought it in my own country, not Poland :wink:
Some webstore sold it for around 30$ for 500ml and shipping in 1 day :laugh:
Where would i go, to buy cheesecloth?

Thanks for the advice :wink:

EDIT:
Did you see this site?
http://www.a1liquor.com/wratislavia-spirytus-750ml-96/


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403115 - 07/02/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Supalemonhaze said:
Yeah, coffee filters will work but I suggest you also use a cheesecloth because the coffee filters will clog very easy. Use the coffee filters to filter the gunk that is left by the cheesecloth.

That alcohol is great. I tried searching for it in my country but they don't import it. That's from poland right?



Also, some people recommend to heat the slurry, for up to 7 hours before filtration. Others recommend to let it stay for 24 hours, without heat.
What would work best?


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: nornor]
    #23403128 - 07/02/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I used PF's extraction tek which called for leaving the whole thing for a few days without heat. My extraction wasn't very potent but I only used 86% alcohol. Alcohol extractions are also a poor choice out of all extraction teks because alcohol only extracts one type of active, which the body cannot even digest directly. This could be another reason why my extraction was shit.

But by all means, if you think you can heat it without blowing your house up, do it. Heat will speed up the extraction proccess and maybe even extract more than a cold extraction can.

I have since then bought a capsule machine, I don't intend to make another extraction. Thanks for the link though.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403139 - 07/02/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Supalemonhaze said:
I used PF's extraction tek which called for leaving the whole thing for a few days without heat. My extraction wasn't very potent but I only used 86% alcohol. Alcohol extractions are also a poor choice out of all extraction teks because alcohol only extracts one type of active, which the body cannot even digest directly. This could be another reason why my extraction was shit.

But by all means, if you think you can heat it without blowing your house up, do it. Heat will speed up the extraction proccess and maybe even extract more than a cold extraction can.

I have since then bought a capsule machine, I don't intend to make another extraction. Thanks for the link though.



Okay, thanks for that clarification!
I thought that alcohol extraction was a great way of extraction :laugh:
I probably won't heat it up, if letting it stay for a few days is fine :smile:
What other types of extraction are possible? Do you mean tea and such?
Would you recommend a capsule machine?

Thanks


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: nornor]
    #23403175 - 07/02/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, tea is another type of extraction. It's a water only extraction. There is another where you just throw it in plain water (no tea), boil it for 20-30 minutes or w/e and then remove the shrooms from the water and simmer/lightly boil it until it is down to the desired volume. People make really strong ice cubes with that method. Not sure of the dosage exactly but I think you can land on the moon with 4-5 of those ice cubes. These types of extractions only extract one type of active but the upside is that the body can digest them directly.

As for a "scientific" extraction, there is one that extracts both the water soluble and the alcohol soluble actives. This type of extraction requires certain chemicals which I have no idea how to pronounce, where to buy or even how to use and it also needs some lab equipment and chemistry know-how. Suffice to say, I haven't even read this method completely as I do not have the necessary knowledge to understand it. This is the best extraction you can do because it's basically combining what you get from an alcohol extraction as well as water extraction (you have to extract multiple times with different things in fact to get all of it)

BTW, a cheese cloth can be anything, a very thin pillowcase cut to size or maybe even a thin tablecloth. Basically a piece of cloth that a single layer and very thin. Search for images on google to see what it looks like. Chances are you can find something to use in your house.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403237 - 07/02/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Supalemonhaze said:
Yeah, tea is another type of extraction. It's a water only extraction. There is another where you just throw it in plain water (no tea), boil it for 20-30 minutes or w/e and then remove the shrooms from the water and simmer/lightly boil it until it is down to the desired volume. People make really strong ice cubes with that method. Not sure of the dosage exactly but I think you can land on the moon with 4-5 of those ice cubes. These types of extractions only extract one type of active but the upside is that the body can digest them directly.

As for a "scientific" extraction, there is one that extracts both the water soluble and the alcohol soluble actives. This type of extraction requires certain chemicals which I have no idea how to pronounce, where to buy or even how to use and it also needs some lab equipment and chemistry know-how. Suffice to say, I haven't even read this method completely as I do not have the necessary knowledge to understand it. This is the best extraction you can do because it's basically combining what you get from an alcohol extraction as well as water extraction (you have to extract multiple times with different things in fact to get all of it)

BTW, a cheese cloth can be anything, a very thin pillowcase cut to size or maybe even a thin tablecloth. Basically a piece of cloth that a single layer and very thin. Search for images on google to see what it looks like. Chances are you can find something to use in your house.



Now i'm starting to doubt, if i even want to do an alcohol extraction :P
I might just buy a capsule machine :laugh:
Do you still think it's worth doing the alcohol extraction?


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: nornor]
    #23403290 - 07/02/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sure, you did buy the alcohol now anyway. Besides, shrooms are easy enough to grow. If you have more mushrooms than you know what to do with, nothing really stopping you. Just don't do it with all your mushrooms if you don't have a lot. Just do some so you can try it first.

I wanted to do an extraction because I can't eat dry shrooms, they make me gag everytime. Capsules took care of that for me but an extraction does have it's own advantages. An extraction hits you harder and faster than anything else, capsules are about the slowest way of ingestion since the capsule has to melt in your stomach first. You won't be eating any mushrooms with an extraction so you don't get an upset stomach very often. I loved tea when I tried it but again, the taste is fucking horrible. 1 sip sends me barfing in the toilet. As for effects, tea is awesome, 20 minutes and you're done for. Can easily take 1.5-2hours with capsules.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403313 - 07/02/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i personally wouldnt do the alcohol extraction. too much work for little output in my opinion.

tea is ALWAYS my go-to for mushy consumption. just put grinded mushies or chopped mushies in water and let it get up to a boil or so and then turn it off. stir for a while, and then strain it out.. add sugar or lemon or w/e flavoring you like. boom. mushy tea.

thats about the simplest way to do it, but it works anyway lol.

there are also more elaborate and scientific extractions NOT involving alcohol that you might want to look into if you want a very pure substance.

p.s. poster above mentioned the taste of the tea lol. if you add a TON of lemon, ive found that lemon really overpowers the musty mushroom flavor many dont like. personally i LOVE the flavor of the mushies so i take it easy on the lemon and sugar. ive had friends go 50% lemon though and itll just taste like a sour sweet lemon juice.. that gets you tripped the fuck out in 20-30 minutes TOPS. (:


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: MycoLoopology] * 1
    #23403327 - 07/02/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck that, I tried basically everything to mask the smell, the body knows what you are trying to shove down into it. It's an impusle nowadays, sip, barf, repeat... or not.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23403328 - 07/02/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I also love the taste of shrooms to me they have like a almond or something like that taste.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23403340 - 07/02/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Fuck that, I tried basically everything to mask the smell, the body knows what you are trying to shove down into it. It's an impusle nowadays, sip, barf, repeat... or not.




lol you sound EXACTLY like a few of my good friends. anytime they even ATTEMPT to eat mushies now, they gag. its all mental if you ask me haha. just be a man/woman and go for it! the stomach will power through if you push hard enough :p (at least it works for me haha. the nausea duration is much shorter with tea too; stronger, but shorter in length.. everyone is different i know)


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23403378 - 07/02/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would end up forcing the stuff down my mouth while it's coming back up through my nose :lol: It's that bad. I only started getting this way after I had a few really high doses in a short amount of time, so yes, I do believe it's mental. I used to like the taste before and I don't think it's a coincidence that my body started to reject them right after I had a few really intense trips.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Beastshroomer]
    #23403553 - 07/02/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I also love the taste of shrooms to me they have like a almond or something like that taste.




I'm with you.  I just wolf the dry ones down.  Earthy taste, not unlike pumpkin seeds.  More bounce than pumpkin seeds though.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: KenInVic]
    #23403740 - 07/02/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23404107 - 07/02/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ive found the alcohol extraction to be the easiest and best way of consuming and giving out good strong dosages regardless off strain. I just soak my ground dry shrooms in 200proof spirit alcohol covered for 24hours. Then I strain and soak for alter 12 hours and filter again and then let the alcohol evaporate to my desired level.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Breadman66]
    #23404113 - 07/02/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also, grinding a few grams of really bruised/blue shrooms will result in a cool looking bluish liquid result.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: Breadman66]
    #23404114 - 07/02/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I do the same but with hot water instead of alcohol and for 24mins instead of 24hrs.


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Re: Psilocybin alcohol extraction [Re: spacechildo]
    #23404183 - 07/02/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, thanks for all the replies guys!
I will most likely do the alcohol extraction, but i might also get a capsule machine.
I can bare the taste of mushrooms, but alcohol extraction seemed like a stealth and convenient way, of storing the shrooms :laugh:

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spacechildo said:
I do the same but with hot water instead of alcohol and for 24mins instead of 24hrs.



Does this make a big difference?
Can you store the water in a vial too?


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