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Weird Thought
    #23403077 - 07/02/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Since everything in the universe came from the universe and is a part of the universe, then does that mean that when human beings became self aware, the universe was becoming aware of itself. Sort of makes me think of the universe as one giant body and human consciousness as the mind. Discuss


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: blazejesus]
    #23403253 - 07/02/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

well we're only really aware of our own bodies and perspectives.. who knows what's aware of the rest of it :tinfoil:


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: quinn]
    #23403437 - 07/02/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There's lots out there about us being the 'universe observing itself'.

TBH, I've tended to shy away from discussing such theories as I age. I can't how it effects me either way regardless of the case.

I like philosophising about things that improve the quality of my life. Like 'is love the underlying force of the universe?' - cause, if it is, that would improve the quality of my life a lot.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403496 - 07/02/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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There's lots out there about us being the 'universe observing itself'.

TBH, I've tended to shy away from discussing such theories as I age. I can't how it effects me either way regardless of the case.

I like philosophising about things that improve the quality of my life. Like 'is love the underlying force of the universe?' - cause, if it is, that would improve the quality of my life a lot.



Interesting. I constantly try to be aware of the fact that I'm still young and there are so many experiences ahead of me that will change and warp my viewpoints. At different areas in my life I'll care about entirely different things probably, like the core things that I care about not trivial things.
Tbh since philosophy can't do much good for you anyways, like its hard to apply it to really life, then it really does make sense to only philosophise about good optimistic things.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: blazejesus]
    #23403506 - 07/02/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Tbh since philosophy can't do much good for you anyways, like its hard to apply it to really life, then it really does make sense to only philosophise about good optimistic things.



Oooh I think it can. I think this is a case of semantics:

Philosophy:
1. the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.
2. any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy, and metaphysical philosophy, that are accepted as composing this study.
3. a particular system of thought based on such study or investigation:
the philosophy of Spinoza.
4. the critical study of the basic principles and concepts of a particular branch of knowledge, especially with a view to improving or reconstituting them:
the philosophy of science.
5. a system of principles for guidance in practical affairs.
6. an attitude of rationality, patience, composure, and calm in the presence of troubles or annoyances.

You perhaps see philosophy as one or some of them, and perhaps I others.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403528 - 07/02/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I like philosophising about things that improve the quality of my life. Like 'is love the underlying force of the universe?' - cause, if it is, that would improve the quality of my life a lot.




How would it improve the quality of your life? The universe is as it is right now. Whether love is the underlying force of the universe or not, the universe is still the same as it is now. The only difference that would make in your life is how you view the universe. Since it would be impossible to prove that love is the underlying force of the universe, you would just have to believe that is the case on faith. If it would improve your life so much, why not just do that?


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403543 - 07/02/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not trying to say that philosophy is pointless because I think it does lots of good mentally. I meant that philosophy is internal, not external, if that makes sense. Seems like aging changes ones perspective on life just as much as a psych could. This is kind of going off from my original post but now I'm thinking about it a lot.

When you're young your looking onward, when you're old you're looking backwards, maybe inwards more.

Idk, it's gotta be a totally different headspace. When I was younger I thought and felt very different, weird to think its a constant changing thing. I think it all has to do with impermanence and change.

Probably the more change the better, but then there needs to be some kind of familiarity in life.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23403560 - 07/02/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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you would just have to believe that is the case on faith. If it would improve your life so much, why not just do that?



Oh believe you me, I am trying.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403612 - 07/02/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well simply believing something on faith isn't philosophy. You would have to have some kind of rational argument for the idea, and I don't see how there could be one for that idea. You would have to explain what love is, in what sense love is a force, and in what sense that force underlies the entire universe. Not likely.


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    #23403619 - 07/02/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's cool man, I've 0 desire to argue any finer points of what is/isn't philosophy. I was just sharing my opinions with OP. I think he gets it.

You know S&M & PS&P used to be the same sub forum? Sometimes the line between both gets blurry.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403631 - 07/02/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I can agree with that, philosophy is believing in something


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23403636 - 07/02/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, but it was split for a reason, and that reason is one of those areas requires rational thought.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: blazejesus]
    #23405751 - 07/02/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea I can agree with that, philosophy is believing in something





I find philosophy to be based in trying to see things clearly. As they really are. Without the delusions of ego.

For example, why we become irritated and angry. And stressed and depressed.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23405831 - 07/03/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea makes sense to me. Removing the self, looking at a situation without any preconceived notions. Any sort of rational thinking that isn't influenced by emotion really.


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Re: Weird Thought [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23406129 - 07/03/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Without the delusions of ego.



That's the good shit. I need more of that in my life.


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